Player Discussion: Cole Perfetti 10th OA pick

[surixon]

What’s going on with Lundell?

Pacing another 3C type center year with 6 points to date.

 

[cneely]

I posted it in a GDT but I should have posted it here:

The way Perfetti starts to have dominant playmaking shifts in the O-zone reminds me of my first ever fav. player of this franchise: Marc Savard

I've been saying that for 2 years. Hopefully he gets the chip on his shoulder that Savard had too.

 

[cneely]

I've said this before, but last night kind of cemented it for me. This kid reminds me so much of Marc Savard that it's spooky.

Only a year ago, but I had been saying this for a while.

Done patting myself on the back now, lol.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

Biggest draft steal and sure thing since Aatu Räty.

2020 draft is starting to look a lot less exciting than it did a few years back. Glad Perfetti isn't following that trend.

Agreed. That's one reason I was so pumped he fell to the Jets. I could have seen him going anywhere from 4OA to 7OA that year. Never imagined he'd drop to us at 10.

Granted, I haven't followed the draft class since 2020, so I don't know how other players have worked out. I'm curious about how a redraft would go.

 

[surixon]

I've been saying that for 2 years. Hopefully he gets the chip on his shoulder that Savard had too.

Another style comp I like is Claude Giroux.

 

[surixon]

Agreed. That's one reason I was so pumped he fell to the Jets. I could have seen him going anywhere from 4OA to 7OA that year. Never imagined he'd drop to us at 10.

Granted, I haven't followed the draft class since 2020, so I don't know how other players have worked out. I'm curious about how a redraft would go.

It's an interesting draft. No superstar to date but you got Stutzle as a good top line center and Raymond, Sanderson and Perfetti are tracking as top line/pairing players. Byfield and Lafreniere have shown some life and are tracking towards top line.

You then have some players like Mercer and Jarvis as established second line players and Drysdale as a second pairing dmen.

So I think teams will still be getting impact players from this draft but perhaps not the game changing superstars most drafts have.

As foe a redraft, gotta think Cole goes top 5.

 

[GNP]

Quietly 4th on the team in points and just under a ppg.

How much longer till he's better than Petan?

It looks very much like Cole could end up the season, in the 60 -80 point range, if he can stay healthy. He is a very slick, fast thinking playmaker, and he's far from his prime. I think he'll be a 100 point producer in 3-4 years, and maybe before. Very much like watching him play.

Have to give Chevy and the scouting staff AAA marks for finding
1st rounders, that seem to all become really great players. Just look at them, Scheifele, Connor, Morrissey, Trouba, Ehlers, Perfetti, and Helle in the 5th round. The Jets are generally not picking in the top 5, more like from 7 to 11, and doing a fabulous job. These guys are really on the ball, and Chevy doesn't get enough credit IMO..

 

[GeorgeJETson]

Agreed. That's one reason I was so pumped he fell to the Jets. I could have seen him going anywhere from 4OA to 7OA that year. Never imagined he'd drop to us at 10.

Granted, I haven't followed the draft class since 2020, so I don't know how other players have worked out. I'm curious about how a redraft would go.

Free article from Scott Wheeler on the Athletic from this past summer.

Scott Wheeler's 2020 NHL Draft re-draft and ranking review

Scott Wheeler provides updated evaluations of the top players in the 2020 draft class and breaks down what he got right and wrong.

theathletic.com

Has Perfetti ranked 4OA. Believes he could be a 60-70 point guy.

 

[Mud Turtle]

Has developed chemistry with Ehlers.
Seen that play before where everyone thinks he going to shoot and gives it up to open teammate in Ehlers

Yup, if Ehlers can hide behind the net then poke out as soon as Perfetti gets the puck, Perfetti will find him every time. Easy tap in.
It would be really tough to defend.

 

[DrChar]

I’d like to see him clean up some of the turnovers (especially during his PP time), but he’s pretty much playing at exactly where I’d hope him to be at this point. I hope they can nurture his confidence so we can see some more of his creativity

 

[The Hobgoblin]

The only concern I have with him is his price tag to stay. I think every good game he keeps having is just driving his asking price higher and higher.

 

[cneely]

Free article from Scott Wheeler on the Athletic from this past summer.

Scott Wheeler's 2020 NHL Draft re-draft and ranking review

Scott Wheeler provides updated evaluations of the top players in the 2020 draft class and breaks down what he got right and wrong.

theathletic.com

Has Perfetti ranked 4OA. Believes he could be a 60-70 point guy.

I think he's a 60-70 point guy now and has a lot more potential. I see him topping out as a 90 point player.

Funny how a lot of people were worried about a 2c when Dubois left and here is a guy pacing for 27 goals and 71 points. More than PLD has ever put up.

 

[Jack7222]

I think he's a 60-70 point guy now and has a lot more potential. I see him topping out as a 90 point player.

Funny how a lot of people were worried about a 2c when Dubois left and here is a guy pacing for 27 goals and 71 points. More than PLD has ever put up.

Yeah I'm surprised to see someone supposedly high on Perfetti predict that he "could be a 60-70 point guy". Seems like that's where he's at already and I don't think he's going to get worse

 

[surixon]

I think he's a 60-70 point guy now and has a lot more potential. I see him topping out as a 90 point player.

Funny how a lot of people were worried about a 2c when Dubois left and here is a guy pacing for 27 goals and 71 points. More than PLD has ever put up.

I agree but I don't blame pundants for airing on the conservative side with projections.

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

The only concern I have with him is his price tag to stay. I think every good game he keeps having is just driving his asking price higher and higher.

Lock him up after the season for 8 yrs at 7-7.5 if he would go for that. Same strategy Chevy used for Scheifele and that NJ used for Hughes. First year or two may be overpay but after that Jets are laughing.

 

[The Hobgoblin]

Lock him up after the season for 8 yrs at 7-7.5 if he would go for that. Same strategy Chevy used for Scheifele and that NJ used for Hughes. First year or two may be overpay but after that Jets are laughing.

That is what I want them to do. Lock this kid up long term. His play on the ice absolutely deserves it.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

Yeah I'm surprised to see someone supposedly high on Perfetti predict that he "could be a 60-70 point guy". Seems like that's where he's at already and I don't think he's going to get worse

I agree but I don't blame pundants for airing on the conservative side with projections.

To be fair, Wheeler's article was back in July. This was before the season started and after Perfetti's injury.

Who would have been comfortable saying he'd be a 90 point guy back in the summer?

 

[Atoyot]

I think he's a 60-70 point guy now and has a lot more potential. I see him topping out as a 90 point player.

Funny how a lot of people were worried about a 2c when Dubois left and here is a guy pacing for 27 goals and 71 points. More than PLD has ever put up.

Important to note that midway through last season Dubois was pacing for 96 points. I don't have much doubt that Perfetti could hit the 70 point range, but at this point it's just a pace.

 

[surixon]

Important to note that midway through last season Dubois was pacing for 96 points. I don't have much doubt that Perfetti could hit the 70 point range, but at this point it's just a pace.

Yup he has to actually do it. A large part will come down to usage. He's going to need more ES ice and a continued spot on PP1 to do it. He'll slow down in terms of his 5 on 5 production rate.

 

[WolfgangPuck]

Safe to say that Perfetti is not going to be a 1st round bust

 

[Krauser]

Perfetti has almost a full year left before he turns 23, on Jan 1st 2025.

 

[Weezeric]

I would love to see Perfetti score 30 this year

 

[BoneDocUK]

Perfetti has almost a full year left before he turns 23, on Jan 1st 2025.

That's some nice company.

It's great to see Cole emerging into a star at pretty much level of the game -- naturally, a quiet, modest, bookish, self-deprecating, Winnipeg-type star.

Playmaking, positioning, disrupting, anticipation, shooting, even cellies.

Hopefully we see Heinola pick up his trajectory in a similar manner as he gets some minutes on the Moose, and Lambert, Slammo, McRoar and Chibrikov. What a PP we might have then.

 

[Krauser]

2020 NHL draft class, ranked by career points per game (minimum 25 career points)

.86 Stutzle (#3 overall, Ottawa): 211 points in 246 games
.68 Raymond (#4, Detroit): 134 in 196
.61 Perfetti (#10, Winnipeg): 66 in 109
.58 Mercer (#18, NJ): 118 in 202
.56 Jarvis (#13, Carolina): 107 in 190
.54 Evangelista (#42, Nashville): 34 in 64
.52 Lundell (#12, Florida): 90 in 174
.51 Quinn (#8, Buffalo): 44 in 86
.48 Peterka (#34, Buffalo): 58 in 120
.46 Sanderson (#5, Ottawa): 52 in 113
.45 Lafreniere (#1, NYR): 116 in 255
.45 Byfield (#2, LA): 61 in 136
.42 Rossi (#9, Minnesota): 25 in 60
.38 Holtz (#7, New Jersey): 25 in 66
.37 Drysdale (#6, Anaheim): 45 in 123
.36 Chinakov (#22, Columbus): 44 in 123
.35 Guhle (#16, Montreal): 28 in 79
.32 J Barron (#25, Colorado): 28 in 82

 

[waitin425]

Habs fan coming in peace. Perfetti is a beauty. That's it. That's my post.