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Listening to the podcast. They think that teams will not spend up to the new cap, and we are one of those teams, and the trade was part of that.
Happy with his agent or not, I think in the very short term, Mikko is in a good spot to get the kind of money he's looking for from the Hurricanes if he moves fast.Pretty sure that Mikko is not happy with his agent right now. But history is prologue, and CMac no doubt vividly remembers Mikko's dog and pony show that lead up to his last extension - and he had no stomach to play Russian Roulette again with Mikko's agent with no safety net beyond the TDL.
Don't wanna become the richest winger in the league while getting your table set by Nathan MacKinnon? Adios Amigo. No hard feelings. Thanks for 2022. It's business, not personal.
Listening to the podcast. They think that teams will not spend up to the new cap, and we are one of those teams, and the trade was part of that.
I think #2 will be much easier for him to do if the Canes keeps his icetime at 20 mins or less which he couldn't get here. I am sure his icetime here had a certain effect on his lazy play but regardless I would still be afraid of that contract if he signed here. Glad it is somebody else's worry now.Happy with his agent or not, I think in the very short term, Mikko is in a good spot to get the kind of money he's looking for from the Hurricanes if he moves fast.
He's really got 2 choices :
1) sign early - they traded for you, they want you and probably don't want to be the team that gave up Necas++ for only a rental. Advantage : Mikko's camp
2) just play your ass off - the guy is incredibly talented and IF he goes all out every single shift/game, he is certainly a massive difference maker and the production will surely follow. Every single Avs fan knows he CAN do it but WILL he do it on a nightly basis - we haven't seen it in a long while.
The Hurricanes are going to be analyzing the fit within their team - and I don't doubt that he and Aho are going to form a fantastic duo but what does that look like over a full season? Is that STILL a 100 point kind of pace or is that more like a PPG type of pace? Cuz they had that PPG kind of pace in Guentzel last year.
Other teams interested in him if he gets to UFA are also going to be keeping close tabs on this to see how this develops. How much was he a product of playing with top players in Colorado or not?
This isn't the first time we've heard it either. Elliotte mentioned this very same thing - about the Avs right around the time of the last lockout. It was completely false.They're idiots, and this narrative will never die. We spent plenty in the non cap era, and we were f***in rebuilding.
Sakic, and the Kronks have both said the salary cap is their limits. We're already spending well over the cap.
Get bent duche bags
Happy with his agent or not, I think in the very short term, Mikko is in a good spot to get the kind of money he's looking for from the Hurricanes if he moves fast.
He's really got 2 choices :
1) sign early - they traded for you, they want you and probably don't want to be the team that gave up Necas++ for only a rental. Advantage : Mikko's camp
2) just play your ass off - the guy is incredibly talented and IF he goes all out every single shift/game, he is certainly a massive difference maker and the production will surely follow. Every single Avs fan knows he CAN do it but WILL he do it on a nightly basis - we haven't seen it in a long while.
The Hurricanes are going to be analyzing the fit within their team - and I don't doubt that he and Aho are going to form a fantastic duo but what does that look like over a full season? Is that STILL a 100 point kind of pace or is that more like a PPG type of pace? Cuz they had that PPG kind of pace in Guentzel last year.
Other teams interested in him if he gets to UFA are also going to be keeping close tabs on this to see how this develops. How much was he a product of playing with top players in Colorado or not?
It's weird because they are spending way over the cap this year, and have been for a while, but also pull strange cheap shit like recent paper transactions when there is no cap benifit or keeping a player's pants from 3 years ago and giving them to new guys.They're idiots, and this narrative will never die. We spent plenty in the non cap era, and we were f***in rebuilding.
Sakic, and the Kronks have both said the salary cap is their limits. We're already spending well over the cap.
Get bent duche bags
This isn't the first time we've heard it either. Elliotte mentioned this very same thing - about the Avs right around the time of the last lockout. It was completely false.
It's weird because they are spending way over the cap this year, and have been for a while, but also pull strange cheap shit like recent paper transactions when there is no cap benifit or keeping a player's pants from 3 years ago and giving them to new guys.
Oh, they cut corners behind the scenes all the time. Back when Duchene was just a rookie I swear he was also the head of the Avs' marketing department because if not for his Twitter feed and the journalists covering the team, you wouldn't have even known the Avs existed between games.It's weird because they are spending way over the cap this year, and have been for a while, but also pull strange cheap shit like recent paper transactions when there is no cap benifit or keeping a player's pants from 3 years ago and giving them to new guys.
Kyper calling the ”14M like Draisaitl” narrative BS, says he’s heard that Rantanen camp actually would have signed for less than what MacKinnon makes but the Avs still didn’t want to give him a deal that big.
If Carolina don't re-up him he needs 13.4M X 7 on the market just to match the same amount of money.It's also a fact he didn't sign for 11.75M.
That's all I needed to know.
If Carolina don't re-up him he needs 13.4M X 7 on the market just to match the same amount of money.
The point is he was reported, by many, to be asking for that. Yes, it’s a negotiation tactic and he will likely sign for less. Maybe even less than MacKinnon. But, also yes, there is a finite window for this franchise to get it done or move on, and they were offered a good package. They did not want the risk of losing him in fa. If negotiations have stalled because they are playing poker and they haven’t shown willingness to budge because they want to leverage maximum negotiating power then they have to expect that what happened is a possibility. And unfortunately for his desired outcome, it didn’t work out.Kyper calling the ”14M like Draisaitl” narrative BS, says he’s heard that Rantanen camp actually would have signed for less than what MacKinnon makes but the Avs still didn’t want to give him a deal that big.
I heard the same segment but kyper wouldn't even acknowledge or mention that they offered him to be paid like the highest paid winger in the game ($11.75M). For me, that is NOT a lowball offer when you consider the great situation that Mikko has been in playing with Mack.Kyper calling the ”14M like Draisaitl” narrative BS, says he’s heard that Rantanen camp actually would have signed for less than what MacKinnon makes but the Avs still didn’t want to give him a deal that big.
The point is he was reported, by many, to be asking for that. Yes, it’s a negotiation tactic and he will likely sign for less. Maybe even less than MacKinnon. But, also yes, there is a finite window for this franchise to get it done or move on, and they were offered a good package. They did not want the risk of losing him in fa. If negotiations have stalled because they are playing poker and they haven’t shown willingness to budge because they want to leverage maximum negotiating power then they have to expect that what happened is a possibility. And unfortunately for his desired outcome, it didn’t work out.
The longer Mikko takes to sign the more dangerous it becomes a Klingberg situation. Not that bad obviously but dangerous nonetheless. There is a small chance his production could take a decent drop and that could cost him a good chunk of money. His production has already dropped if you remove the EN pts so it is possible that teams won't want to pony up what he wants and end up signing lower than what the Avs offered. If I am him I sign with CAR in the next couple of weeks.
Oh absolutely. If I'm CAR I wait to see how he does away from Mack. The risk of costing them more is very limited but if it goes the other way for Mikko it could save them 1M+/yr.I wonder if Carolina isn't happy waiting a few minutes. They can give him 14M if that's what it takes without blinking.
Can you give me the winning lottery numbers pleaseJust a bit of fun. Couldn't find any Necas+Drury triple list though.View attachment 968096
Yeah, that would be the most unfortunate thing, if he truly wanted to stay and wasn’t hung up on an undoable salary. If he was hands off and his agent pushed it to that point I genuinely feel bad for him. I do hope (but doubt) that Cmac would have went to him directly and told him that they could go to X amount otherwise they have a trade lined up with Carolina. Let him make that final decision and not allow the agent to force a trade.They had a good hand, but got beat by the nuts on the river after chosing to check on the turn.
You never let the opponent see another card for free if you know you have a good hand, but not the nuts when the cards aren't all out on the table.
He should fire his agent if he was that serious about staying.
Oh I dunno about that, I think they’ve proposed more trades than possible lottery number variations lol.Can you give me the winning lottery numbers please