Confirmed with Link: [COL, CAR, CHI] Rantanen-Hall to CAR, Necas-Drury-25 2nd-26 4th to COL, Chi 25 3rd to Chi (Ret 50% on Mikko)
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Grigowski
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Gumballhead
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I think the “blindsided” bit comes from Mikko not really thinking it would happen even though the rest of the hockey world knew it was a possibility. Moose strikes me as being kind of a big kid and maybe he was a little naive about the Avs making a hard choice like that.
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Everyone assumes Necas will be playing with MacKinnon, but I think it makes more sense to have him on the second line. As stated, they have somewhat redundant skillsets.
IMO you run:
Drouin-Nate-Scarface
Lehkonen-Mitts/New Aquisition-Necas
Then you also have Colton and hopefully Landy that can slot in the top 6 if needed.
IMO you run:
Drouin-Nate-Scarface
Lehkonen-Mitts/New Aquisition-Necas
Then you also have Colton and hopefully Landy that can slot in the top 6 if needed.
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This Mack Cap limit will be very limiting in few years. Now it might be true but in couple years Avs need to go ovet it.
Cale might be the best defense man now but better than Mack, no. And his gonna want more when he is up.. Lets see that thing blow up on our faces
Cale might be the best defense man now but better than Mack, no. And his gonna want more when he is up.. Lets see that thing blow up on our faces
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Thanks for the info. If that happens that's OK too as we need a play driver on the 2nd line.
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"the rest of the hockey world knew it was a possibility"
Bullshit. None of the Avs beatwriters thought about that, none of the insiders thought about that. There were one or two reporters who floated about the idea + everyone here at HFAvs. The hockey world certainly didn't think about this being a realistic possibility, c'mon now.
Cousin Eddie
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lol at Mikko being very upset. Perhaps he should be upset with his agent.
14 mil
Next time a team offers you a shade under your best player and guy who put a tonne of money in your pocket, maybe you should take it.
Go f*** yourself Mikko. You’re a superstar. My favorite hockey team is worse. But you’re a greedy asshole. Held out once before until he became the highest paid player on the team which he was for almost the entire duration of his contract. Mackinnon’s new deal kicked in a year ago and for you and/or your agent to have the balls to request 1.5M more than that guy after all the money he made you is downright bullshit.
I’m really proud of Cmac today. The team is worse right now. I get it. But f*** Mikko Rantanen.
14 mil
Next time a team offers you a shade under your best player and guy who put a tonne of money in your pocket, maybe you should take it.
Go f*** yourself Mikko. You’re a superstar. My favorite hockey team is worse. But you’re a greedy asshole. Held out once before until he became the highest paid player on the team which he was for almost the entire duration of his contract. Mackinnon’s new deal kicked in a year ago and for you and/or your agent to have the balls to request 1.5M more than that guy after all the money he made you is downright bullshit.
I’m really proud of Cmac today. The team is worse right now. I get it. But f*** Mikko Rantanen.
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I would wait until we actually see what Rantanen signs for, before bashing him as a greedy motherf***er.lol at Mikko being very upset. Perhaps he should be upset with his agent.
14 mil
Next time a team offers you a shade under your best player and guy who put a tonne of money in your pocket, maybe you should take it.
Go f*** yourself Mikko. You’re a superstar. My favorite hockey team is worse. But you’re a greedy asshole. Held out once before until he became the highest paid player on the team which he was for almost the entire duration of his contract. Mackinnon’s new deal kicked in a year ago and for you and/or your agent to have the balls to request 1.5M more than that guy after all the money he made you is downright bullshit.
I’m really proud of Cmac today. The team is worse right now. I get it. But f*** Mikko Rantanen.
The only concrete, factual number we have is that the Avs have offered 11.25 and he turned that down. Nothing else. What Friedman said yesterday was, once again, what his camp can anticipate on the open market. On a 7 year deal. Which would mean the number Rantanen is looking for starts with a 12 on an 8 year deal. And is actually less than what MacKinnon makes.
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When Rantanen is on (2018,2022) he's like a prime Jagr out there. When he's not on the top of his game like this year's and last he's Dany Heatley. I would've given the good Rantanen serious consideration to his demands, but the past few years he's absolutely not worth it unfortunately.
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Lavoie literally said a week ago that the Avs are going to trade Rantanen if they can't sign him and everyone that has been following this team long enough knows that he has someone inside the Avs org feeding him info. Some people just decided to look the other way.
The Avs beat writers don't know shit (and when they do they don't tell).
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Seriously though.
If the Avs were already at 11.25-11.5ish, you REALLY think they weren’t going to add an extra 1 M or so? It’s such an inconsequential difference.
There was very clearly a much bigger gap.
LOFIN
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Yeah, and he was the only one. I was very adamant that he knew f*** all, apparently he did.
Kyper reported that the gap was 1-1.5M. The number Rantanen camp has been looking for on an 8 year deal was somewhere around 11.75-12.5M per. The number 14, which everyone is referencing to, is what the agent has been using on the open market number. Because there is no f***ing way that Carolina is paying him 14M, and 14Mx8 would translate to something like 16M on a 7 year UFA deal. Do you seriously think the Rantanen camp is expecting that?
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Yeah Lavoie has always known stuff on the Avs.
As for the Avs beat writers, there’s a few that absolutely know some stuff but they don’t report on things until it’s factual. Even then if it’s something that paint the Avs in a negative perspective or if it can tarnish any type of relationship, they stay quiet. Not saying anybody knew anything about this Mikko bomb but I’m talking about more of your day to day roster/locker room stuff.
I’d much prefer the quality and professionalism of what the Gazette has provided lately for example, than the guy who said Mikko was about to sign a contract last summer.
Sometimes less is more.
Which team will you follow after this trade?
Grigowski
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If it really was 12.25 Mikko would play tonight against Boston..... If we really lowballed him over that, well, i dont know what to say...
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It’s just opinions and I don’t think you are correct in thinking that hockey people weren’t thinking of it - there were only 3 outcomes. He signs here, he stays here for the season, or he gets traded. Maybe beat writers aren’t geniuses but trust me they knew about all 3 options. Maybe the least likely sure, but whether it was being written about or not, it was a thing that could happen under the right circumstances.
Now the part where the Avs got a real return was the only thing that should have blindsided anyone.
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It might be bigger, but even if the gap is just 1.5, that's a large number on its own.
On paper this is a worse team today., but I suspect there is more to come soon.
On paper this is a worse team today., but I suspect there is more to come soon.
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We will see in the future. Like I said, I think the Avs have made the correct decision to move Rantanen if he wants more than MacKinnon. I just don't think that's the case, and I find it particularly irritating that some people are now calling him greedy, or not that good because he was a product of MacKinnon etc.
Have some respect for the best winger in franchise history, one of the top players in the game, one who was a big part in bringing back the Stanley Cup in 2022.
This trade can only be judged much later on, depends so much on what else the Avs do, and where Mikko signs for eventually and how much for. In the present, I'm f***ing pissed emotionally. Rationally, it's not the worst move, if the Avs have more in their back pocket and Landeskog is close to returning.
This is where I am. If he couldn't/wouldn't maintain that play during a contract year, that is such a red flag. Doesn't bode well for the future. I am glad I can remember him as a moose rather than an albatross.
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As soon as some numbers come out, we can judge....
Either we really lowballed him, or he priced himself out of town.....
He is gone, and thats it. I still wish him the best and thank him for his services and help to bring back the cup to Denver... He will always be remembered....
But thats the harsh reality of the NHL´s cap..... It happened before, it will happen again.....
I dont call Mikko greedy, but i think he just overplayed his hands and didnt expect CMac to really let this tomahawk fly...... Hell, before we call Mikko greedy we should always remember that one time Mr. Sakic himself signed that offer sheet with the Rangers...... Its a business.. And its not always nice and everyone is happy.....
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Just trying to understand is this due to Avs not wanting to pay really big AAV to Rantanen or Avs just want to have a different look? Any info if Landeskog is coming back soon?
Just trying to understand is this due to Avs not wanting to pay really big AAV to Rantanen or Avs just want to have a different look? Any info if Landeskog is coming back soon?
LOFIN
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Even if we low balled him, we can still come out on top if we make some savvy moves here. This is the more important part. Necas seems like a nice player. He will probably reach next level with MacKinnon. He's still not Rantanen, and he's UFA in next summer. On paper, we are worse today than yesterday. So hopefully CMac has some more magic up his sleeve. I expect him to.
