Confirmed Trade: [COL/ARI] Darcy Kuemper ($1M ret.) for Connor Timmins, '22 1st, and '24 cond. 3rd

[Muffin]

I’m fine with the trade if Sakic uses the cap space. He’s getting Kuemper at 3M vs Grubauer at 6M. Now he has about 6-7M to add another player.

 

[Bruce Granville]

Kemps cannot handle pressure. Very bad trade.

 

[Perratrooper]

Ya the big thing is it would give you a goalie on a reasonable price, that lines up with the core of the tema.

Maybe the ask was to much (aka Newhook++), but I woulda paid to have got that deal done personally.

 

[State of Hockey]

This might not prevent Colorado from winning a Cup next year, but it certainly will hurt their chances of a long-term dynasty. Sakic had a horrible day.

 

[PAZ]

You better pray that Kuemper is as good as Grubauer was for you guys and that you re-sign him.

Otherwise you've thrown away a 1 st and a good, young D-man for a rental goalie.


Can any Avs fan explain why they let Grubauer go? His deal was fair... wtf?

Grubs wasn't anything special, he's going to be exposed in Seattle. He's a decent starting goalie, but he relies way too much on position and has zero glove. I have no qualms with letting Gru walk for that price.

However, Sakic misplayed his hand. There was plenty of other options he could've went with that would've costed a lot less than a 1st + Timmins.

 

[mouser]

this is the time for holland to see if he can get koskinen unloaded to arizona

Hmm, Koskinen owed $4.5m this season and Edmonton’s 2022 2nd pick is encumbered.

How about Koskinen plus EDM 2023 2nd and 2024 2nd to AZ?

 

[bl02]

Yikes!!!

 

[Alberta Yote]

How about Arizona's highest 2nd and a 3rd for Koskinen and a 1st

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Amazing off season from Arizona here

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Kuemper ($1m retained)

for

Timmins
2022 1st

—

Coyotes did well.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

 

[Muffin]

This might not prevent Colorado from winning a Cup next year, but it certainly will hurt their chances of a long-term dynasty. Sakic had a horrible day.

Because a late 1st and a meh prospect is somehow the key to a dynasty?

 

[Brewsky]

If Nick Foligno went for a 1st, I don't know why people are saying Kuemper is an absolute fleecejob. At least they got a starter instead of a 3rd/4th liner.

 

[Chips]

Holy crap did Sakic screw up this offseason...

What a horrible, utterly awful trade.

Ignores context, there’s goalie demand and few worthwhile goalies left before you get deep into ‘iffy’ territory. Leverage is a thing in trades. If Colorado waits maybe Oilers or someone trade, then the Avs risk being left with no legit started,THEN he’d have screwed up

 

[flyfysher]

If the Avs relinquished Timmins to the Yotes then I wish him well. I truly believe Timmins is a legit 2nd pairing D-man. He strikes me as having a cerebral element to his game and he makes timely, simple plays and has some offensive skill. Anyway, Yotes got a really good one.

 

[Jormungandr]

We lost that trade.

 

[JoemAvs]

Ignores context, there’s goalie demand and few worthwhile goalies left before you get deep into ‘iffy’ territory. Leverage is a thing in trades

I mean the context is Sakic waited way too long for Grubauer and then was left without a backup plan and made a completely awful panic trade..

Thats on Sakic messing up.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Probably the first time I've ever wondered what the hell Sakic was thinking.

 

[Subway Schenn]

Damn. Arizona doing good things. Fleecing Sakic whoa.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

People attacking Sakic for this..what's the alternative after Grubauer moved on? Go into a cup window with Francouz and Jonas Johansson? Maybe go after a CBJ goalie?

A starting goalie is much more important than a late 1st and Timmons to their future.

 

[Foppberg]

Wish we coulda got Kessel too.

 

[TheDoldrums]

wait, what the hell were the Oilers offering? Because I assume they would be dumping Koskinen too. That would be a crazy package considering what he went for in the end

 

[PAZ]

Because a late 1st and a meh prospect is somehow the key to a dynasty?

No, but we paid the same price to acquire Kuemper as Florida did to acquire Reinhart.

Is Kuemper a 1st+ Timmins better than Bernier, Andersen, Ned, etc.?

 

[Jakey53]

Only way we win this is if Keumper wins us a cup.

He could. He is one hell of a goalie.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Probably the first time I've ever wondered what the hell Sakic was thinking.

Really? He got A LOT of flack in the beginning.