Confirmed Trade: [COL/ARI] Darcy Kuemper ($1M ret.) for Connor Timmins, '22 1st, and '24 cond. 3rd

[Skinnyjimmy08]

So if Kuemper has a good season, he's gonna demand more than 5.9 per... Sakic let's him walk?

Or signs him to a deal more than 5.9

Bizzare

I woulda preferred signing my Vezina finalist to a steal of a deal of 5.9 per and kept my 1st and Timmins

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Joe Sakic got fleeced for the first time

 

[Perratrooper]

Only way we win this is if Keumper wins us a cup.

 

[JoemAvs]

I literally have no idea how GMs value goalies or do asset management. Fleury is free, let Grubauer walk, trade a 1st for Kuemper, Jones gets a 2M deal. What is this madness

This is a man completely misplaying a situation and getting robbed blind in a complete panic trade when he was left without a goalie on a team that is supposed to be contending.

This is just one guy really badly screwing up. Nothing more to it. Sakic has done a great job for the Avs. But he is having his worst day on the job in a long, long, long time today.

 

[GeeoffBrown]

Kuemper had a save % over .920 in 3 of the last 4 seasons, so it's possible the Avs were targeting him all along?

 

[MMC]

 

[moosemeister]

Only way we win this is if Keumper wins us a cup.

We hope he does. We're rooting for you guys!

 

[Malkinstheman]

I love what Arizona has been doing. They have a huge treasure chest of picks now.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Only way we win this is if Keumper wins us a cup.

Ya seems like a weird move tbh... i honestly wonder how much difference it woulda taken to get Gibson... and just sure up the goalie w/ their core.

 

[sxvnert]

bill armstrong is doing a good job getting picks for the rebuild now have some good scouts and development people

Smaller market teams should always be stocked with picks from taking dumps & trading non core players when the UFA bill comes due.

 

[DRAGO 18]

If that's the price for Kuemper, what is the price for Gibson? Must be astronomical.

Fleury went for a bag of stale popcorn so its somewhere in the middle

 

[Captain Mountain]

Sakic got caught without a seat on the goalie carousel and man Armstrong made him pay for it. Someone explain to Francis that that's what leverage looks like.

 

[HFpapi]

Great return for Arizona, they did extremely well here, but why is everyone saying L for the Avs?

They are chasing the cup, their window is now, they can't afford for goaltending to be a weakness while loaded everywhere else. What's a very late 1st and an (albeit very good) prospect to them right now and for the next few years? Had to be done

 

[Perratrooper]

Ya seems like a weird move tbh... i honestly wonder how much difference it woulda taken to get Gibson... and just sure up the goalie w/ their core.

I was thinking the exact same thing, I would have rather traded 2 firsts+Barron and Timmins for Gibson.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

I literally have no idea how GMs value goalies or do asset management. Fleury is free, let Grubauer walk, trade a 1st for Kuemper, Jones gets a 2M deal. What is this madness

 

[NYRKing]

A 1st and Timmins? How? I can't believe the first round pick , but Timmins too who was trending in the right direction after all the health stuff?

 

[542365]

It’s expensive, but Kuemper is great when he’s been healthy. It’s good for both teams. Avs couldn’t go into a season in which they view themselves as Cup contenders with all of their goaltending hopes on Francouz. He’s been good in limited duty, but still a question mark.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I was thinking the exact same thing, I would have rather traded 2 firsts+Barron and Timmins for Gibson.

Ya the big thing is it would give you a goalie on a reasonable price, that lines up with the core of the tema.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Great return for Arizona, they did extremely well here, but why is everyone saying L for the Avs?

They are chasing the cup, their window is now, they can't afford for goaltending to be a weakness while loaded everywhere else. What's a very late 1st and an (albeit very good) prospect to them right now and for the next few years? Had to be done

More less a situation of already having a top goalie that they coulda signed long term for a good amount

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Just say it like what it is
Joe Sakic screwed up on Graubeur negotiation, got cornered and had to pay deep price for Kuemper

 

[redandyellowcametobe]

Ya seems like a weird move tbh... i honestly wonder how much difference it woulda taken to get Gibson... and just sure up the goalie w/ their core.

Would have had to been newhook + Timmins +1st it sounds like. Unfortunately the avs can’t afford to lose newhook. They need him to help out with center depth post Kadri.

 

[Spilot23]

Great return for Arizona, they did extremely well here, but why is everyone saying L for the Avs?

They are chasing the cup, their window is now, they can't afford for goaltending to be a weakness while loaded everywhere else. What's a very late 1st and an (albeit very good) prospect to them right now and for the next few years? Had to be done

They basically gave up a 1st round + a good prospect in Timmins as the season went on he was better and wasn’t physically intimidated by Vegas in the playoffs. To trade for a goalie that’s signed 1 year with injury issues also considering our backup hasn’t been playing for a whole year. That’s a big gamble there.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

You better pray that Kuemper is as good as Grubauer was for you guys and that you re-sign him.

Otherwise you've thrown away a 1 st and a good, young D-man for a rental goalie.


Can any Avs fan explain why they let Grubauer go? His deal was fair... wtf?

 

[TheDoldrums]

Yeah Sakic definitely overplayed his hand and got caught with his pants down. There's no way meeting Grubauer's demands wouldn't have been better than paying this package for another pending UFA. When the musical chairs stopped there was really only one option for a proven starter, Coyotes had all the leverage.

Coyotes fans maintained they'd get a high price for Kuemper and boy were they right.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Sakic lost value wise on this trade 100%.

The good news though is that Sakic just acquired a goalie who is 2nd among all full time NHL goalies in save percentage over the last 3 years.