Speculation: Claude Giroux and the Colorado Avalanche

[GirardSpinorama]

Avs would have a cup in the last 3 years if they had a better goalie imho. Another wasted year if they don't upgrade you can bump this when they win the cup if you think Darcy Keumper is enough, I'll happily eat crow.

I'll never forget those Grubauer is better than Gibson posts though.... I'll remember those forever.

Do Avs fans really think they need Giroux another center over a goalie? Why waste trade pieces.

Well we lost both of our goalies one year...

 

[Foppberg]

Hart + Giroux for Barron + 1st +

 

[falconski]

Maybe I missed something, but as a regular here I don't recall seeing anyone claim that at all.

the best I recall is some thoughts that keeping grubauer and whatever it would cost to get gibson (prolly more than timmins+1st) is better long-term than getting gibson....I don't think anybody ever claimed Grubauer's a better goalie

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Hart + Giroux for Barron + 1st +

How did we go from trading a 34 UFA rental, to also giving you a 23 year old cornerstone goaltender?

 

[Lemonlimey]

How did we go from trading a 34 UFA rental, to also giving you a 23 year old cornerstone goaltender?

colorado goalie neurosis and greed.

 

[Peter Peckerwood]

I can tell you first hand whatever the price is he would be worth it..... G is an amazing player even at his age.....

The only player I wouldn't move is Newhook (if I were the Avs). For Byram + 1st to be included I'd want more from Philly (but that's risky for Philly because who knows what happens with Byram). Interesting as a Flyer fan and G fan I'd be happy if he went to the AVS but we need value. Fans squawking about Oluasson and Barron etc you have to pay a price if you really want the best chance to win.

No, I disagree here. The Avs don't truly need Giroux. Avs fans have pointed that out many times. Certainly not enough to empty our talent pool of too much. Would it be great to have Giroux or Pavs or Miller? Of course!
We just have a better defensive prospect pool than offensive based on what I am reading from guys on our boards that follow prospects.
Since it appears likely that the Avs need to wait until TDL to make any deals, we may know more about Helleson and we will for sure have a larger sample size for Barron as well.

 

[Foppberg]

How did we go from trading a 34 UFA rental, to also giving you a 23 year old cornerstone goaltender?

All it takes is one believer.

 

[Peter Peckerwood]

How did we go from trading a 34 UFA rental, to also giving you a 23 year old cornerstone goaltender?

Hoping that Fletch takes his madness up a few notches??

 

[GirardSpinorama]

How did we go from trading a 34 UFA rental, to also giving you a 23 year old cornerstone goaltender?

That smiley face has a lot of value

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Hart + Giroux for Barron + 1st +

Good joke. Any others? May as well throw in Farabee, Frost, Konecny and a 1st on our end. And a whole case of lube.

 

[Foppberg]

Good joke. Any others? May as well throw in Farabee, Frost, Konecny and a 1st on our end. And a whole case of lube.

The lube is overkill. We'll just raw dog it.

 

[JoeSakic13]

I’d think that Compher would be going the other way simply because of salary, but I could see Barron and/or Helleson being involved with a draft pick.

Can’t see the Avs moving on from Byram or Newhook to bring him in. Not to mention I can’t see Philly being interested in Kaut or Bowers.

 

[Hockeypete49]

But, the only way Giroux gets moved is if he asks to be traded, and he can name his destination. If he only wants to go to one or two teams, why would they jeopardize trading him at all just to try to maximize their return, rather than granting the request of their long term, loyal star and captain so he can chase the Cup? Are the Flyers really going to kill his chance just because they don't get enough back? I don't see it.

You have every right to your opinion. I just disagree with it.

 

[Overrateprospects]

Well we lost both of our goalies one year...

And still didn’t want Hank. I would say Sakic is a very patient man and won’t overpay for a guy. I will say this neither did Stevie Y with Tampa and they won when they overpaid for Coleman and Goodrow. That was after Stevie Y left. I think Avs issue is they have an excellent core but lack grit with skill.

 

[eramosat]

colorado goalie neurosis and greed.

nope.

the reason Giroux + Hart for anyone was posted was either High IQ for humor, or low IQ for meaningful hockey trade ideas. you decide.

Both Flyer players are ++ assets. Maybe +++. On a scale of negative --- to positive +++.

So I'll assume the humor approach was used.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Imagine MacKinnon, Giroux, Kadri down the middle for the playoffs. Unless they plan on playing him on The wing.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Landeskog-MacKinnon-Rantanen
Burakovsky-Kadri-nickushkin
Giroux-Newhook-LOC

Those are 3 nice scoring lines for the Avs playoff run.

 

[SpitfireG]

I think Avs issue is they have an excellent core but lack grit with skill.

Agreed. Giroux fit fine Avs style for regular season in top 6 and second PP, but for playoff run to loan Pavelsky it could be a good move and cheaper than Giroux but not by value of youbg core

the G is a main issue for Avs prior playoff, not trade the loan guy

 

[Richard88]

Agreed. Giroux fit fine Avs style for regular season in top 6 and second PP, but for playoff run to loan a guy like Pavelsky it would be a right move and cheaper than Giroux. But not by value of young core.

Pavelski probably wouldn't be cheaper than Giroux. Unlike Giroux he has no NMC which likely means that there will be more teams bidding for him. Colorado are also in Dallas' division so an equal offer from another non-division team probably gets accepted ahead of the AVS offer.

 

[Starat327]

Imagine MacKinnon, Giroux, Kadri down the middle for the playoffs. Unless they plan on playing him on The wing.

That looks good but Who steps up into the 3C when Kadri gets suspended?

I kid, I kid.

 

[Spilot23]

That looks good but Who steps up into the 3C when Kadri gets suspended?

I kid, I kid.

Compher obviously duhh !

 

[Adam Warlock]

Flyers need RD, Barron + 1st probably makes sense

The more I read about Barron, it does seem like he fills a Flyers need. How close to NHL ready is he?

1st+Barron+Compher would be the trade I guess.

 

[hughdreamz]

The more I read about Barron, it does seem like he fills a Flyers need. How close to NHL ready is he?

1st+Barron+Compher would be the trade I guess.

Barron will be NHL ready by next year at the latest.

 

[Richard88]

The more I read about Barron, it does seem like he fills a Flyers need. How close to NHL ready is he?
1st+Barron+Compher would be the trade I guess.

He also fills a key need for Colorado so they won't be keen to trade him.

Barron will be NHL ready by next year at the latest.

He'll probably get another season in the AHL next year to further improve his defense which is still a bit suspect. Helleson is more NHL ready than Barron, though he has a lower ceiling.

 

[Ararana]

Giroux's flight from Philadelphia to Las Vegas passes right over Denver. Coincidence? I think not!