Value of: Christopher Tanev to Toronto

[TheDoldrums]

We're 4-5 games into the season. Best to put off the erection.

Nylander has 16 points in his last 16 NHL games played. After putting up fantastic numbers in Sweden and the AHL before that. While being a consensus top 10 prospect on about every list. This isn't some quick reaction to a few games, he's always been very valuable with incredible upside.

I don't at all blame the Canucks for not wanting Kadri. But the Leafs aren't moving Nylander for Tanev.

 

[Atomos2]

Never implied Tanev was a #1D. He's a 2-3 D at most. That's why Nylander gets the conversation going.

No it doesn't

 

[Paradise*]

No it doesn't

Sure does

 

[Alexanderthe89]

Nothing against Tanev but I don't think the Leafs can consider trading one of the best prospects in the world for him. Can't risk losing out on Nylander or Marner's ceiling at this stage of the rebuild. What about bundling a couple from the Leafs next tier though? There's still serious talent among players like Leipsic, Kapanen, Bracco, Nielsen, Dermott.....

 

[LondonKendrick]

Leafs fan, that is a laughable proposal.

I'd offer Kadri + Gardiner or Zaitsev?

Benning doesn't bite though he's fetishes defensemen, he's of the Brian Burke philosophy.

 

[ACC1224]

Leafs fan, that is a laughable proposal.

I'd offer Kadri + Gardiner or Zaitsev?

Benning doesn't bite though he's fetishes defensemen, he's of the Brian Burke philosophy.

Which Leafs fan are you referring to ?

 

[Atomos2]

Sure does

Uhh no it doesn't, sorry bud. If Nylander comes up, the phone goes down.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Nothing against Tanev but I don't think the Leafs can consider trading one of the best prospects in the world for him. Can't risk losing out on Nylander or Marner's ceiling at this stage of the rebuild. What about bundling a couple from the Leafs next tier though? There's still serious talent among players like Leipsic, Kapanen, Bracco, Nielsen, Dermott.....

Nope, I can understand your fanbase not wanting to trade away any of the big three, but Tanev is far too valuable to this team to trade away for anything less than an overpayment, and yes Canucks fans one of the big three would be an overpayment.

 

[go4hockey]

Kadri is the same age as Tanev. Plus he'll be like 29 when the Sedins retire.




Like I said, there's room to add from Toronto... But in the real NHL, I think a trade like this makes sense.. Maybe not on hfboards. Plus I'm a Canucks fan.

You don't understand if the main piece is Kadri your offer is pure junk and would get no interest from the other team So you need to subtract Kadri and start with a much better piece.

 

[NoShowWilly]

this thread is going nowhere so i'll just say this: if both teams miss again, i look forward to Rielly Tanev at the WHC again. They make a quality pairing. Everyone **** on that Canadian Defense going in and that group did a great job.

 

[go4hockey]

Our top pairing is Rielly (LHD) and Zaitsev (RHD)

Great still only one of those guys should be anywhere near a top pair in the NHL.

 

[go4hockey]

Tanev is a top pairing defenceman. How is Nylander more valuable?

Come on man cause he is a Leaf that's why.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Now, first of all I don't think it would be incredibly smart to move Chris Tanev from the Canucks...

Nor do I think Benning WILL because he's so important..

But, I think there could be a deal made that could make sense for both teams...

The Canucks need a center that can take over after the Sedins retire for some amount of time.

The Canucks have the viable replacements for Tanev in the minors/scratched which would allow them better playing time.

The Canucks could use a good center to play with some of their younger wingers while Eriksson is pretty much permanently with the Sedins for the rest of the careers...

The Leafs need a top pairing RH d-man to stick beside Rielly and they were great together when playing with Canada.

The Leafs have more than enough young offense to make up for losing some.

The Leafs and Canucks are in separate conferences as a whole, so there's very little chance it comes back and 'bites' either team...


This is why I'm proposing Chris Tanev for Nazem Kadri.

Yes, I know the Canucks have Sutter, and Horvat and Granlund, but none of them really have the offensive capabilities to be a replacement for the Sedins long term... Besides, either Sutter or Granlund can play wing easily..

I also know that Tanev has a bit more value than Nazem, but I can't really figure out what can be added from Toronto to make it fair... That's where you come in...

Have at it.

Love how you have fire Benning in your avatar there but you propose a completely horrible trade lol, hypocrisy is your friend sir! Another reason I feel like we have some of the dumbest fans in hockey.

Kadri will never be a #1C, IE. he will never be a guy that can replace H. Sedin, he is a #2C this will never change, not discounting Kadri or anything he is a decent #2C, but this is not something we are in need of, we have Sutter, Horvat for that, which if you actually paid attention would have been clear to you.

You started a thread that was destined to turn into a ***** fest, way to go

 

[Randy Randerson]

Nope, I can understand your fanbase not wanting to trade away any of the big three, but Tanev is far too valuable to this team to trade away for anything less than an overpayment, and yes Canucks fans one of the big three would be an overpayment.

that's fair, big minute defensemen who play in all situations are franchise building blocks so unless you have an excess of them I can understand why you'd hold them unless an offer was too good to turn down

 

[Randy Randerson]

You don't understand if the main piece is Kadri your offer is pure junk and would get no interest from the other team So you need to subtract Kadri and start with a much better piece.

The guy you're quoting is a Canucks fan (as it says in the post you quoted)

Kadri's a career 50pt-over-82-game centre who draws a ton of penalties on a team friendly deal, not saying he's worth Tanev but to call him "pure junk" is nonsense.

Great still only one of those guys should be anywhere near a top pair in the NHL.

Do a little reading on Zaitsev, being a #2 is certainly within his ceiling. We're a rebuilding team, waiting to see what he is doesn't hurt us and he's looked good so far playing 22 mins a night

Come on man cause he is a Leaf that's why.

Good, now the bias is out in the open so we can see why you're undervaluing leaf assets so badly

 

[bossram]

Nylander has 16 points in his last 16 NHL games played. After putting up fantastic numbers in Sweden and the AHL before that. While being a consensus top 10 prospect on about every list. This isn't some quick reaction to a few games, he's always been very valuable with incredible upside.

I don't at all blame the Canucks for not wanting Kadri. But the Leafs aren't moving Nylander for Tanev.

Perfectly reasonable from the Leafs side of things. But the Canucks absolutely cannot afford to move Tanev for anything short of a Marner/Nylander calibre player.

If that's the case, there's just no workable deal here.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

that's fair, big minute defensemen who play in all situations are franchise building blocks so unless you have an excess of them I can understand why you'd hold them unless an offer was too good to turn down

And I can understand why being a fan of a team that has given away far too many young blue chippers, your fan base would not want to trade one of the big three.

 

[JAK]

As a Canucks fan, the conversation starts with Matthews.

Tanev + Boser.

Larsson - Hall trade is a good basis. Canucks add Boser just to satisfy the fact that Leafs fans wants more.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

As a Canucks fan, the conversation starts with Matthews.

Tanev + Boser.

Larsson - Hall trade is a good basis. Canucks add Boser just to satisfy the fact that Leafs fans wants more.

No it doesn't LOL just stop! A guy that looks to be a generational 1st line C is not how the conversation would start.

It was a god awful trade everybody agreed including experts so no it is not a good basis.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Legit question, do Toronto fans even watch other teams play?

 

[AOSC]

As good as Tanev is, Nylander is defenitely a starter. It would be hard to believe that Toronto would have to add much more. I have watched Nylander play a few times and IMO he is Toronto's best player. Maybe holds more value than Marner. IMO as a Wild fan. The guy is strong along the boards, very fast, quick hands, can snipe, & not a bad defensive player.

 

[CamelToews]

As a Canucks fan, the conversation starts with Matthews.

Tanev + Boser.

Larsson - Hall trade is a good basis. Canucks add Boser just to satisfy the fact that Leafs fans wants more.

Are you being serious?

 

[PetterssonSimp]

8 pages of Zaitsev Kadri Nylander tire pumping won't change their value.
Talent doesn't automatically mean production. Alex Burrows is probably one of the least individually talented players in the league but he's scored 35 goals. Do we value him based only on that? No because it's a makeup of all attributes.
Zaitsev hasn't come close to Tanev's on ice impact yet. Let alone for how long he's been doing it.
Nylander is not an nhl centre until he plays centre. Looks like Laughs coaching staff feels the same, hasn't played centre and have given minutes to Matthews, Kadri and Bozak I'm the middle over Nylander. All save for AM34 would be said to have less value and potential than Nylander.

All the EA like add players together for more value, it doesn't work so well in real life.
Also when Leafs fans claim week now nothing about your team but are forced to watch your team before ours is on air basically any given HNIC is quite funny. Time goes the other way, we aren't the ones who don't stay up dory our games boys. Try watching Chris Tanev a bit

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

8 pages of Zaitsev Kadri Nylander tire pumping won't change their value.
Talent doesn't automatically mean production. Alex Burrows is probably one of the least individually talented players in the league but he's scored 35 goals. Do we value him based only on that? No because it's a makeup of all attributes.
Zaitsev hasn't come close to Tanev's on ice impact yet. Let alone for how long he's been doing it.
Nylander is not an nhl centre until he plays centre. Looks like Laughs coaching staff feels the same, hasn't played centre and have given minutes to Matthews, Kadri and Bozak I'm the middle over Nylander. All save for AM34 would be said to have less value and potential than Nylander.

All the EA like add players together for more value, it doesn't work so well in real life.
Also when Leafs fans claim week now nothing about your team but are forced to watch your team before ours is on air basically any given HNIC is quite funny. Time goes the other way, we aren't the ones who don't stay up dory our games boys. Try watching Chris Tanev a bit

Is English your second language? Honest question? Or are you typing from your phone? We aren't forced to watch them either you can change the channel you know?

 

[PetterssonSimp]

Is English your second language? Honest question? Or are you typing from your phone?

iPad. Punctuation sucks with the new IOS update.