Value of: Christopher Tanev to Toronto

[Nucklehead Supreme]

http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/rat...ters&minutes=400&disp=1&sort=PCT&sortdir=DESC

This site is pretty good. I'm not sure I'd call him elite in that area, I think some of the hype is unwarranted.

Think he's a good #2. Cost would be ~~Nylander. Incentive for VAN is, well, they aren't winning a cup in the sedin era. So get some really good young players and rebuild the team instead of consistently and insistently signing the Vrbatas and Erikssons of the world in a feeble attempt to scrape and claw back to former glory at the expense of wasting a lot of years of the franchise.

Yah because ethe alternative has worked so very well for teams like the Oilers right? Letting our young players develop in a competitive environment is so stupid..... We should just suck and hope we don't get screwed like last year right? LOL Clueless.

 

[Hi-wayman]

There's been a few references to Tanev being an elite shot suppressor - does anyone have a link to where those kind of stats are tracked? I'd be curious to see who else is at the top of the list and who his comparables in that area are.

That info is out there, but I have no intrest in spending the time looking for it. If I remember right it came out prior to the July 1st deadline along with discusssions as to what the cost would be for a top four right side D man and how few top 4 (not top 2) D men were available. Tanev was rated at the time as a top 5 RHD in the league.

This was prior to the Gudbranson & Subban trades. Gudbranson, a RHD & Tanev, a RHD are both known for their defense more than their offensive, but both do have offense skills. Based on this thred, Leaf fans are claiming Tanev's skill and trade value is no greater than Kadri, a 2/3 line tweener. Tanev is a top pairing D where as Gudbranson is a quality 2nd pering D. The Canucks just paid Florida McCann plus a second and a fourth round pick for Gudbranson. That seems to be a greater trade value than what Kadri's trade value is and that trade was only for a second pairing RHD..

 

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Think Marner or Nylander+ to get the conversation started

This can not be a serious post. I would not offer anything for Tanev! Nothing, no need.

 

[Canucks LB]

The leafs would die to have a defensive defender and consistant defender like tanev every game.

Instead they would rather lose 6-5 than win 3-2.

Edmonton realized this when they traded Hall for a solid defensive D-man, Toronto will have 2 eventually also.

Nylander or Marner for tanev is 100% fair for BOTH sides.

 

[Canucks LB]

Zaitsev is the best Russian defenceman in hockey. At least until Provorov is ready.

Tanev is really good but he's no Zaitsev.

What kind of stuff are you taking, Give me some of that ****

Zaitsev is literally not even Half of what tanev is. Tanev would be the best defender on the leafs, yes better than Morgan.

 

[clunk]

Love how you have fire Benning in your avatar there but you propose a completely horrible trade lol, hypocrisy is your friend sir! Another reason I feel like we have some of the dumbest fans in hockey.

Kadri will never be a #1C, IE. he will never be a guy that can replace H. Sedin, he is a #2C this will never change, not discounting Kadri or anything he is a decent #2C, but this is not something we are in need of, we have Sutter, Horvat for that, which if you actually paid attention would have been clear to you.

You started a thread that was destined to turn into a ***** fest, way to go

4D Chess

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

The leafs would die to have a defensive defender and consistant defender like tanev every game.

Instead they would rather lose 6-5 than win 3-2.

Edmonton realized this when they traded Hall for a solid defensive D-man, Toronto will have 2 eventually also.

Nylander or Marner for tanev is 100% fair for BOTH sides.

I'd rather aim for Liljegren and take my chances with the lottery than trade one of our blue chippers for who is quickly becoming one of the more overrated D in the league.

 

[McMatthews]

The leafs would die to have a defensive defender and consistant defender like tanev every game.

Instead they would rather lose 6-5 than win 3-2.

Edmonton realized this when they traded Hall for a solid defensive D-man, Toronto will have 2 eventually also.

Nylander or Marner for tanev is 100% fair for BOTH sides.

Nylander and Marner are elite young players.

If you had an elite young player, you'd understand why it's a bad trade for Toronto.

We're not talking about Bo Horvat or Jake Virtanen. You trade guys like that for a Tanev, not a Nylander or Marner.

 

[TeamBester]

What kind of stuff are you taking, Give me some of that ****

Zaitsev is literally not even Half of what tanev is. Tanev would be the best defender on the leafs, yet better than Morgan.

They are about equal at this point with Morgan about to leave him in his dust.

 

[McMatthews]

They are about equal at this point with Morgan about to leave him in his dust.

Morgan is also 5 years younger.

A good Vancouver boy.

 

[clunk]

Morgan is also 5 years younger.

A good Vancouver boy.

Yeah can't argue with that. Morgan is going to be a perennial Norris contender imo.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Take is one of those top pairs for a couple seasons before he fades out like a Bryan McCabe. Marner Nylander Matthews are career top line players types. No deal.

 

[quat]

This can not be a serious post. I would not offer anything for Tanev! Nothing, no need.

Well, that's an interesting position to take.

 

[Moorpheus*]

2017 1st round pick
Kapanen
2018 3rd

 

[turkulad]

Just let it go. No Tanev deals in the horizon.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The leafs would die to have a defensive defender and consistant defender like tanev every game.

Instead they would rather lose 6-5 than win 3-2.

Edmonton realized this when they traded Hall for a solid defensive D-man, Toronto will have 2 eventually also.

Nylander or Marner for tanev is 100% fair for BOTH sides.

Did you watch Nylander last night? No..... No it is not.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

The reason the Canucks would trade Tanev is because they are in a full rebuild mode.
Tanev is good Dman with reasonable contract...four years left. So I think the Canucks would be looking for a number of "prospects" not just one player.

Gee, the Canucks have not lost in regulation this season. Maybe the Canucks will be buyers and not sellers this year.

 

[JTmillerForA1stLOL]

So larsson gets hall and tanev gets kadri?

Ouch. No interest in kadri, especially if we're giving up arguably our best defender.

This is terrible.

 

[Drew Doubty]

Good chance Zaitsev is as good as Tanev. He's really good. And yes I'm aware that Tanev is quite good.


Tanev just straight up doesn't get you Nylander or Marner, or even close for that matter. Let alone Nylander or Marner+

Adam Larsson was traded for Taylor Hall. Tanev is as good as Larsson. If either Nylander or Marner become as good as Taylor Hall it would be mean hitting their upside. That's a gamble. While I would agree that it probably wouldn't be in Toronto's best interest to trade either of those guys for Tanev, especially when your team still has a ways to go before becoming competitive, saying that Tanev isn't worth either of those guys is false as proven by the market.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

Everybody using the taylor hall trade as an example should shake their head. Dman are premiums these days but its quite clear that chia lost that trade badly... Tanev would be great on toronto but i doubt they want to pay for him, he would cost a pretty penny which toronto cant afford right now.

 

[Kirk Mclean]

Don't really see a deal here... Kadri isnt worth Tanev, and the Leafs aren't close enough to the playoffs that they need to trade a blue chipper for a win now defenseman like Tanev. Although if they were, Nylander for Tanev would probably be the closest. We'd probably have to add to Tanev to get Marner.

 

[Seventy7]

Defence and Goaltending is about all the Canucks have going for them. Theres no circumstance outside extreme overpayment to get them to weaken the reason their having some success.

I understand the need for the franchise to acquire offense, but not at the expense of whats helping them win. Thats foolishness.


With Henrik, Sutter, Horvat, Gaunce, and if needed Granlund, the Canucks are actually pretty decent down the middle... Not an all star group by any means, but solid.

The struggle is on the wing as Virtanen still does not look ready for the NHL, while Baertschi and Eriksson have been mediocre. Hansen and Granlund have easily been the best wingers on the team, and combined with Sutter is really the only positive unit up front.

Anton Rodin will be a welcome addition once healthy, but who knows if his SHL success will translate to the NHL with any success.

No to trading Tanev.

 

[Morgs]

I'd trade quite a lot for Tanev. He's basically the perfect partner for Morgan.

But if Matthews, Nylander, Marner, or Rielly are mentioned I hang up the phone.

It's the reason why no deal will be made.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Terrible value for Vancouver. Would take Nylander or Marner.

 

[Mick Jagr]

Think Marner or Nylander+ to get the conversation started

There is absolutely no way that either of those players would ever be dealt for Tanev, as useful as he is. Nylander and Marner are elite forward prospects. Don't be silly.

But Tanev certainly has value. I don't want to discredit the player. He's a solid D. I just think it would take somebody with a higher pedigree for Toronto to even consider moving those guys.