Player Discussion Chris Kreider

romba

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The Lightning used a lot of borderline obstruction and interference to slow the Rangers down and played the same way with the Avs. The difference between the Rangers and Avs, and it's a pretty significant gap, is that the Rangers have a lot of passive players who operate with the time and space that's given to them, whereas the Avs -- as someone else here has described -- have savages that are willing to play through defenders as much as they try to go around them. The Avs continued to make those cross-crease, royal-road plays because they were willing to fight through the Bolts' tactics and maintain speed many times. A guy like Kreider, who is one of the team's most powerful skaters, never really attempted to go through a defender once the Lightning adjusted after game 2.
CK is a bull on skates but doesn't really have the hands to maintain control while getting through the D, not his game. Especially with a bad wrist. He tried once or twice and just turned it over. Zbad has better hands and probably could have pushed the issue a bit more, but he doesn't play that style much and he was our best performer so gets a pass from me.
 
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Kreider still has another step to make to be considered a bonafide power forward in the mold of a few more complete guys that can excel in the playoffs.....he has to initiate his physical play /will onto the opposition defense and get more space /time to work . Short story....he has to start crushing a few dmen like Wilson does but that also means standing up for himself .....a part of the equation he likely wants no part of . I honestly don't think he can raise his game any further and what we see is what we get when he wants to bring it .

I definitely do not want him as our captain .
 

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Kreider is interesting because his days as a workhorse, own the boards, own the forecheck type of player are done. He doesn't have the speed anymore to be the outstanding forechecker he once was, which happens when you're in your 30s. Ironically, that is really what we needed from him when he got extended. The whole 52 goals thing is f***ing awesome but we re-signed him because he was a unique player on the team that had the speed and forechecking presence that really made a line go.
 

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I don’t think we are faulting him for us not winning the Cup, but i dont think it’s unfair either to put some blame on him either for not showing up the last 4 games(or other big games). Especially as one of the leaders. He just didn’t look very engage for half the playoffs, nobody wants the kreider who only shows up every 8’games or so again like previous years and that’s what we saw in the playoffs.
Nobody wants "that" Kreider, but nobody can tell me that he wasn't engaged because he didn't "want to". Makes absolutely NO SENSE for a player to put together the kind of year he had in leading us all the way to the ECF's, and then all of a sudden "not show up" for lack of effort in the games that absolutely meant the most.
 

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I dunno guys. Think we should be looking at the guy who makes nearly 12 million a year if we want to fault being eliminated in the playoffs.
 

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How many years do we have of him left??? Holy shit he looks like complete ASS. Get him off the 1st line. Rather see Kakko and Laf playing with Mika.

He should be a healthy scratch tomorrow night after the game he is having today. He doesnt even try anymore.
 

romba

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I’d take his invisible act over what transpired this game.

Where to begin? So many TERRIBLE passes, weak along the boards, celebrating a goal that wasn’t even near the line yet instead of continuing to try to poke the puck home while it was still loose, shooting from the top of the circle in OT unscreened, I probably missed some. Maybe his worst game as a Ranger as far as I can remember.
 

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How many years do we have of him left??? Holy shit he looks like complete ASS. Get him off the 1st line. Rather see Kakko and Laf playing with Mika.

He should be a healthy scratch tomorrow night after the game he is having today. He doesnt even try anymore.
I wouldn't mind seeing that on Zib's line. I wouldn't scratch him yet, but he isn't earning the ice time that he is getting.
 

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Hes been bad all year. This game was next level bad where he legit killed everything anytime he was on the ice (they win this game if he doesn't play) but this is has gotten beyond the point of unacceptable.

Gallant needs to scratch him or if he IS playing through an injury, sit him until hes healthy.
 

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He has to be hurt, he has no speed at all. That's the only excuse I'm accepting for that game. It's time for him to move to the right side and let Laf play left on line 1
 

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He has to be hurt, he has no speed at all. That's the only excuse I'm accepting for that game. It's time for him to move to the right side and let Laf play left on line 1
I'm sitting here at breakfast reading this and thinking the exact same thing word for word LOL.....that is the solution ! Othmann will make us a better club in the long run . The team has a ways to go yet before we are on Colorado plateau despite getting a point last night .
 

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