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Time to break Jagr’s record, and breaking all time Rangers playoff in goals as well. You f***ing monster
Player Discussion Chris Kreider
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Ok, you want words. You want it short and not a 20 minute video with all of Kreider's 50 goals, which I considered a highly impressive highlight show. From an analysis of that, apart from that Kreider's goals are damn legit - as a Swedish homer I immediately saw Mika's help to make it happen. And Fox, Panarin, all those beasts, etc. Anyhow, I just assumed this video would get you going. Someone going. Anybody? No. So, here we are. He just scored 50 goals dammit, how can there be nothing more to discuss about that? Even now.
Can I just say Kreider's deflection and net front skills are sublime? And I'm a huge fan of Holmström (Swedish homer), I know my crease stuff. That off-hand flick with the wrist on a pass on his off-hand position, where you think it's impossible to deflect the puck even near the net, Kreider just does it like a boss. He had a couple of those.
I consider those kind of great deflections to be hockey porn to be honest. Figuratively, I'm not some kind of weird pervert. It's just so beautifully done. It takes alot of skill and hard work to get that right. And you need those to be a 50 goal scorer, which is so extremely valuable in the high end, high octane, super offensive NHL of today. You need the front man who just realized he can be a speedy power forward and a front man, which Kreider just happens to be extremely good at.
He has done it all so well this season. His leadership, his positive energy, his strength, his speed and his improvement in insight of himself. He knows he doesn't have to go on fifth gear anymore to get an oddman rush, only when he has to help his teammates get the puck back. Otherwise the big speed horse barely skates around waiting for his equally impressive teammates to make things happen from where he can create an opportunity.
What a beast. Kreider 2.0 is something else, what a perfect net front player. Masterful! Many ask if Kreider can repeat this next season? I would say no problem as long as he has the other beasts around him, which he'll have. I would consider Kreider scoring at least close to 40 goals next season, just because. His problems aren't mental anymore.
Ryan Strome, Tomas Holmström, Lee or whoever the Islanders have, Tavares, Nylander? Naw, this is the net front legend coming.
Can I just say Kreider's deflection and net front skills are sublime? And I'm a huge fan of Holmström (Swedish homer), I know my crease stuff. That off-hand flick with the wrist on a pass on his off-hand position, where you think it's impossible to deflect the puck even near the net, Kreider just does it like a boss. He had a couple of those.
I consider those kind of great deflections to be hockey porn to be honest. Figuratively, I'm not some kind of weird pervert. It's just so beautifully done. It takes alot of skill and hard work to get that right. And you need those to be a 50 goal scorer, which is so extremely valuable in the high end, high octane, super offensive NHL of today. You need the front man who just realized he can be a speedy power forward and a front man, which Kreider just happens to be extremely good at.
He has done it all so well this season. His leadership, his positive energy, his strength, his speed and his improvement in insight of himself. He knows he doesn't have to go on fifth gear anymore to get an oddman rush, only when he has to help his teammates get the puck back. Otherwise the big speed horse barely skates around waiting for his equally impressive teammates to make things happen from where he can create an opportunity.
What a beast. Kreider 2.0 is something else, what a perfect net front player. Masterful! Many ask if Kreider can repeat this next season? I would say no problem as long as he has the other beasts around him, which he'll have. I would consider Kreider scoring at least close to 40 goals next season, just because. His problems aren't mental anymore.
Ryan Strome, Tomas Holmström, Lee or whoever the Islanders have, Tavares, Nylander? Naw, this is the net front legend coming.
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Haven’t watched video yet but I will. Going forward what are expectations for Kreider next year? He’ll still be playing with Zibs on 1A or 1B, still be net front on power play with chances from Fox, Zib, Panarin. Can’t imagine him losing a step will be a huge drop off but I don’t think 50 will be a benchmark. I would be happy with a couple more seasons of 30-35
Miamipuck
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He got 50 this year so my expectations are fairly grounded:
If he doesn't score 60 next year Kreider is a lazy worthless punk.
If he doesn't score 60 next year Kreider is a lazy worthless punk.
The Crypto Guy
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Yup. Garbage player when it matters.
Get him out of here.
Cool, he scores in worthless games but come the playoffs he decides he’s done trying.
Cant believe for one second I thought he would be a good captain for this team. Jesus
Get him out of here.
Cool, he scores in worthless games but come the playoffs he decides he’s done trying.
Cant believe for one second I thought he would be a good captain for this team. Jesus
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Of all of the NHL, Kreider is perhaps the most elite complementary piece of the puzzle for a Cup winning team. He’s the best garbage goal scorer.
The problem is we can’t get the puck to the dangerous areas consistently enough.
The problem is we can’t get the puck to the dangerous areas consistently enough.
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Yup. Power forward is a misnomer for him. He is not a power forward. He is an elite net front player.
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I’d say he’s a power forward, but how many power forwards actually drive the play throughout the game? Power forwards are usually just complementary pieces, right?
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Kreider used to be a force down low and on the cycle but that part of his game has deteriorated and Zibanejad sucks on the walls. So they rely on scoring off the rush most of the time. When that's not there you see what happens.
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Rangers get a four on three Kreider literally stands behind the net until he sees Fox go to the front of the net then he decides I better get there no excuse for that
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Maybe there's an advanced stat that will show he does more than I'm aware of - but he's got to be the least impactful 50-goal scorer in the league. Just seems to have sooo little impact on games.
He's huge and he's fast and yet has he delivered a single noteworthy big hit in these playoffs? How does that happen?
He's huge and he's fast and yet has he delivered a single noteworthy big hit in these playoffs? How does that happen?
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Im a CK fan but Im not happy with how he is playing. He came in to the league playing a hard skating hard hitting game. Now he is playing a very passive game all about deflections. He has forgotten he is a top 10 skater at 225 pounds. Id show him clips from his younger days and clips of now. He is not engaged. He should be beating guys to pucks or putting them through the boards. He is playing like its a no checking beer league game.
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Power forwards can dominate for stretches of a game, though. Cycling the puck, taking it to the net, generally causing havoc and making life for defensemen tough, things like that.
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will1066
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He's an opportunistic scorer, imo. Cashing in on net front scrums, deflecting pucks on the way to the net, and his snapper off the rush particularly worked, whereas he snapped it into the goalie's chest in other years.
He's overthinking sometimes yet he appears to be conserving his energy and waiting for opportunities to strike. Low event, high impact. There's another player that's had that kind of year: Panarin.
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That is true but that should be in addition to hard skating and hard hitting. He looks lost out there unless he is standing to the side of the goalie on the PP. The reason he was drafted was his speed. He is giving away his biggest asset.
Kreiders never been a hard hitter, complaining about it now is just looking for an excuse to pile on to him for playing like shit right now.
His problem is that he's floating around the ice and is unwilling to win (or even engage in) a battle. Though he did his job in the 3rd in G1, but last night was probably his worst game of the playoffs.
His problem is that he's floating around the ice and is unwilling to win (or even engage in) a battle. Though he did his job in the 3rd in G1, but last night was probably his worst game of the playoffs.
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This series so far is different from the Penguins series in that it has been a defensive battle. I think Carolina has had the overall edge after the first two periods of the first game but the gap between the two teams isn’t a lot. The Rangers couldn’t get chances last night but the Canes didn’t get very many either. When it comes to 2-1, 1-0 games I’d argue it’s the guys who can make plays that become the most important and not necessarily your biggest goal scorers. Sebastian Aho made a play last night (to Brendan Smith) and the game really hung on that. Panarin and Fox more or less our premier play guys were more or less smothered.
