TSN: Chris Johnston: at this point It's expected Jacob Chychrun will be moved

[Prairie Habs]

Devils should be aiming to compete the next three years while some of their young guys are still on ELCs.

It’s a worthy gamble dependent on the value. For example, Zacha + Smith can be the centerpiece of a package that doesn’t hurt the Devils now or long term.

Why would Arizona accept a package that doesn't hurt to give? If Hamilton was on a deal like chychrun would you accept a trade around zacha and Smith for him?

 

[TGWL]

Rangers reasonably overpay IF it can be in currency that works for them AND 'yotes max half retain, which is doable on a short contract already at a reasonable #; this is nec due to NYR upcoming cap crunch.

Lindgren
Jones
2 nyr 1sts
Strome at half
Georgiev

for

Chych at half + AZ 2022 + 2023 3rds

NY goes youth for youth
D will be
Chych - Fox
KAM - Trouba
Nils L - Schneider
when Trouba can be moved, Schneid up to 2RD, Nils to 3RD, Robertson to 3LD

Chych at half would be slightly less than Lindgren's 3 x 3 per

NY should replace Strome internally

Only you would include an expiring Strome that does nothing for Arizona this year, retain on Strome's cap which does nothing for either team right now, and toss away a player NYR doesn't have to include in this deal because they still need him for the rest of the season/playoffs, all while asking Arizona to retain on years worth of cap...

 

[Habs Halifax]

If they move Chychrun, I would expect them to take a anchor contract in return? Otherwise, if they take futures and youth only, they are that much further from the cap floor. Some can say it's not hard to reach the cap floor but do they really want to hand out AAV/term with UFA's? The other option is to take on other teams bad contracts again?

Very curious to see how that plays out

 

[SomeDude]

Didn't a team meet their ask in a package like 2 months ago?

 

[Eggtimer]

Steep price but I'd probably do it as a Kings fan... I'm probably in the minority.

Anderson-Doughty
Chychrun-Roy
Edler-Durzi

Is a very nice D core. Then you have Clarke, Faber, Spence, and Grans also in the pipeline.

Good god. I didn’t realize how deep the Kings were on D.

 

[Lundell4Prez]

I’d imagine Arizona fans will be underwhelmed with the return. Just my hunch.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

I’m Sure Necas and Jarvis would be available

Nope neither would be available.

 

[peconcan]

I think I would do that as well. not sure if the cap works though

We’d have to keep Muzzin on LTIR then let Dubas figure the cap out in the off season I could see him making a big move soon when he hasn’t got us past the 1st round yet you have to think his job may be up in the air if we don’t get past it this year

 

[Boxscore]

I’d imagine Arizona fans will be underwhelmed with the return. Just my hunch.

Without question. Especially the way Chychrun has turned it on--he looks like the "superstar Chychrun" again. I still can't figure out how/why a rebuilding, young team would trade a 23-year old franchise defenseman lol.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Whoever loses out on him trades for Giordano.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Whoever loses out on him trades for Giordano.

Or Chiarot. Or Lindholm. Or Klingberg.

The market for D-men is definitely a buyers market right now. Ofcourse each D-man brings something different to the table but they are all solid pieces. Though, I hope you are right ..

 

[hurricure]

If Carolina is offered Chychrun for Necas they take that and run

pretty sure you stated Necas AND Jarvis....Even just for Necas, i doubt they would be jumping up and down giggling like school girls ready to pull the trigger...

 

[Zippy316]

Why would Arizona accept a package that doesn't hurt to give? If Hamilton was on a deal like chychrun would you accept a trade around zacha and Smith for him?

Devils have built up a ton of assets that they can match some offers for contenders without even giving up L. Hughes, Mercer, or Holtz.

With how many picks Coyotes have accumulated, Devils may be able to offer up NHL ready talent and skip on the picks. Zacha + Smith + Zetterlund is damn near close to Chychrun’s value, if not already there. Contending teams are going to do the two prospects + late 1st deal. Devils can offer a different alternative.

Biggest issue for the Devils is goaltending is such a massive question mark. If they were a bubble team with league average goaltending, I think they’d be all over this. It’s a massive risk not knowing how Bernier/Blackwood respond to their injury plagued seasons next year.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

Or Chiarot. Or Lindholm. Or Klingberg.

The market for D-men is definitely a buyers market right now. Ofcourse each D-man brings something different to the table but they are all solid pieces. Though, I hope you are right ..

Is it though? I mean, someone trading for Chychrun is trading for now and the future. Chiarot, Lindholm, Klingberg walk July 1 (or whenever it is this year).

I don't think ZOna's getting the equivalent of four first rounders but they should get an excellent return on a first pairing d-man signed for cheap the next couple of years.

In the offseason I'm expecting Lindholm, Chiarot, Klingberg to get stupid money and term, 2-3M more per.

 

[Prairie Habs]

Devils have built up a ton of assets that they can match some offers for contenders without even giving up L. Hughes, Mercer, or Holtz.

With how many picks Coyotes have accumulated, Devils may be able to offer up NHL ready talent and skip on the picks. Zacha + Smith + Zetterlund is damn near close to Chychrun’s value, if not already there. Contending teams are going to do the two prospects + late 1st deal. Devils can offer a different alternative.

Biggest issue for the Devils is goaltending is such a massive question mark. If they were a bubble team with league average goaltending, I think they’d be all over this. It’s a massive risk not knowing how Bernier/Blackwood respond to their injury plagued seasons next year.

They aren't trading a top pairing D on a great contract for a middle 6 centre who can't play centre, a formerly very promising D who hasn't grown at all in 2 seasons and is NJ's 6th most used D, and a former 3rd round pick with 3 NHL games and 0 points.

Again, is Hamilton was 5 years younger and signed for 3.5 years at HALF his current would you trade him for that package?

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Is it though? I mean, someone trading for Chychrun is trading for now and the future. Chiarot, Lindholm, Klingberg walk July 1 (or whenever it is this year).

I don't think ZOna's getting the equivalent of four first rounders but they should get an excellent return on a first pairing d-man signed for cheap the next couple of years.

In the offseason I'm expecting Lindholm, Chiarot, Klingberg to get stupid money and term, 2-3M more per.

Yeah. Chychrun is in a different category but it still makes for quite a few D-men that are available on expiring contracts.

 

[Zippy316]

They aren't trading a top pairing D on a great contract for a middle 6 centre who can't play centre, a formerly very promising D who hasn't grown at all in 2 seasons and is NJ's 6th most used D, and a former 3rd round pick with 3 NHL games and 0 points.

Again, is Hamilton was 5 years younger and signed for 3.5 years at HALF his current would you trade him for that package?

No player ever really gets their value on the market. The fact that Chychrun has been on the market (when he really shouldn’t be at his age) means something is definitely up in Arizona.

Maybe they are looking to get blown away by an offer they can’t refuse. That could also be the case, but if there’s pressure from somewhere to move him, I don’t think Arizona will like the return, especially mid-season. They’re better off waiting until the off-season and they’d be able to get proper value.

If there’s pressure to move him, I think the Devils could meet other teams offers. Especially if contending teams are involved as their offers are usually more futures based.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Whoever loses out on him trades for Giordano.

I doubt he's the #1 fallback plan

 

[Coyotes19c]

No player ever really gets their value on the market. The fact that Chychrun has been on the market (when he really shouldn’t be at his age) means something is definitely up in Arizona.

Maybe they are looking to get blown away by an offer they can’t refuse. That could also be the case, but if there’s pressure from somewhere to move him, I don’t think Arizona will like the return, especially mid-season. They’re better off waiting until the off-season and they’d be able to get proper value.

If there’s pressure to move him, I think the Devils could meet other teams offers. Especially if contending teams are involved as their offers are usually more futures based.

that is exactly the case and the GM basically said that. We will not be trading him unless we get an offer that we just can’t refuse.

 

[Coyotes19c]

They aren't trading a top pairing D on a great contract for a middle 6 centre who can't play centre, a formerly very promising D who hasn't grown at all in 2 seasons and is NJ's 6th most used D, and a former 3rd round pick with 3 NHL games and 0 points.

Again, is Hamilton was 5 years younger and signed for 3.5 years at HALF his current would you trade him for that package?

People just don’t get it. It’s not difficult to understand. If he’s traded, it’s going to hurt badly. It’s not going to be a bunch of whatever pieces.

 

[Desert Panther]

Or Chiarot. Or Lindholm. Or Klingberg.

The market for D-men is definitely a buyers market right now. Ofcourse each D-man brings something different to the table but they are all solid pieces. Though, I hope you are right ..

Doubt that Klingberg is going anywhere anymore. Dallas has been much better of late and they're right in the thick of the race in the West. If they fall out between now and the deadline maybe, but as things stand I think they hold onto him.

As far as Chychrun, I've said it before and I'll say it again, if Knight or Lundell is insisted on he won't be traded to Florida.

 

[yurnxt]

Blues get Chychrun

Arizona gets-

Scott Perunovich
Zachary Bolduc
Joel Hofer
Arizona's choice of Blues 2022 OR 2023 1st round pick unprotected
Marco Scandella

St. Louis also throws in a large Imo's pizza, some fried ravioli and a tub of frozen custard for good measure.

 

[Scintillating10]

Just said on insider trading Jacob Chychrun is expected to be moved before the deadline.

Somebody is paying a BIG price

To Habs for Weber, Chiarot and Flames first.

 

[Static]

Why is Arizona trading him again? I don't get it.

 

[rt]

Blues get Chychrun

Arizona gets-

Scott Perunovich
Zachary Bolduc
Joel Hofer
Arizona's choice of Blues 2022 OR 2023 1st round pick unprotected
Marco Scandella

St. Louis also throws in a large Imo's pizza, some fried ravioli and a tub of frozen custard for good measure.

No Neighbours, no deal. Simple as that.