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[Vipers31]

A headcoach in Germany, US-American Kurt Kleinendorst is leaving his team in Ingolstadt for a job with an NHL organization. Probably an assistant coach, at best, and I'd guess there are a few of those open right now, but I still thought I'd throw it at the wall.

EDIT: He's going to be the head coach for Binghampton, apparently.

 

[Terry Yake]

Ducks have never been chokers like this before in fact no team has ever been chokers like this it all started with BB as the coach. Regardless it is not 100% on the players the coach deserves some of the blame as well. I have never given 100% blame to anything no one should because there is multiple sides that are to blame.

sure you can say it started when BB took over

you can also say it started when getzlaf/perry became the "leaders" of the team

 

[Vipers31]

sure you can say it started when BB took over

you can also say it started when getzlaf/perry became the "leaders" of the team

Why do we have to go over and over this in the coaching thread? They have NMCs - period. Even if we felt that they were the bigger problem, they were the problem we couldn't address. We addressed one of the remaining potential problems that we can address in form of the coach, and we'll likely see another potential problem addressed with some roster turnover.

 

[Paul4587]

sure you can say it started when BB took over

you can also say it started when getzlaf/perry became the "leaders" of the team

We were one win away from a stanley cup final and likely win only a season ago with them as the leaders. It's not as bad as you're making out. Mod edit

 

[ShadowDuck]

We've made some minor coaching moves on June 10-11 the past few years.... here's to hoping for some news.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

A headcoach in Germany, US-American Kurt Kleinendorst is leaving his team in Ingolstadt for a job with an NHL organization. Probably an assistant coach, at best, and I'd guess there are a few of those open right now, but I still thought I'd throw it at the wall.

EDIT: He's going to be the head coach for Binghampton, apparently.

For the Baby Sens? There are strong rumors that they are moving to Belleville (cross your fingers for me) and that someone else will be moving their affiliate to Binghamton.

 

[Vipers31]

For the Baby Sens? There are strong rumors that they are moving to Belleville (cross your fingers for me) and that someone else will be moving their affiliate to Binghamton.

Yep, for the Baby Sens. Will keep my fingers crossed for you that he'll end up coaching closer to you, though.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Why do we have to go over and over this in the coaching thread? They have NMCs - period. Even if we felt that they were the bigger problem, they were the problem we couldn't address. We addressed one of the remaining potential problems that we can address in form of the coach, and we'll likely see another potential problem addressed with some roster turnover.

I think you're going to see this until a new coach comes in.

The coach was the worst playoff choker of all time. You HAD to get rid of him.
The players are the ones who never show up in game 6/7, that's not on the coach.
A top coach can adjust.
Top players can perform regardless.
Hey, the gm is the only common thread.

Rinse, recycle, and repeat.

 

[Ducks in a row]

sure you can say it started when BB took over

you can also say it started when getzlaf/perry became the "leaders" of the team

So then if you can say both things it means neither should be 100% to blame which is the point I was making.

Getzlaf and Perry have NMC and without them we wouldn't of been close to as good a team as we had been. Good luck trying to get them to waive to be traded. If we manage that then we need to trade Kesler too who won't want to be part of a rebuild. If we rebuild we shouldn't be keeping BB for that so either way BB should be gone no way should we of kept BB that would of been stupid a bad joke.

I think you're going to see this until a new coach comes in.

The coach was the worst playoff choker of all time. You HAD to get rid of him.
The players are the ones who never show up in game 6/7, that's not on the coach.
A top coach can adjust.
Top players can perform regardless.
Hey, the gm is the only common thread.

Rinse, recycle, and repeat.

Well the GM has made a lot of roster moves only Getzlaf,Perry and Fowler have been around for all 4 of the 3-2 blown series leads so don't think the roster was as big a problem as some do. Everyone knows BB was not that good a playoff coach and when it happened in Anaheim wouldn't be surprised if that effected our team making them lack confidence causes our horrible choking.

 

[Ducks DVM]

So then if you can say both things it means neither should be 100% to blame which is the point I was making.

Getzlaf and Perry have NMC and without them we wouldn't of been close to as good a team as we had been. Good luck trying to get them to waive to be traded. If we manage that then we need to trade Kesler too who won't want to be part of a rebuild. If we rebuild we shouldn't be keeping BB for that so either way BB should be gone no way should we of kept BB that would of been stupid a bad joke.



Well the GM has made a lot of roster moves only Getzlaf,Perry and Fowler have been around for all 4 of the 3-2 blown series leads so don't think the roster was as big a problem as some do. Everyone knows BB was not that good a playoff coach and when it happened in Anaheim wouldn't be surprised if that effected our team making them lack confidence causes our horrible choking.

The issue is that the GM has taken away the parts that the last two coaches have needed and replaced them with parts they had to adapt to. One of the two managed to do that a lot better than the other, but neither was coaching to their strengths. Just because the players are different doesn't mean that they're the right players.

That wasn't the point of my post though. My point was that the arguments would cycle along that path, (because quite a few people disagree as to where the blame should fall, and are NOT going to change their minds) until the GM was brought up, and then someone would cycle back to the coach being the problem, and, well, here we are.

 

[snarktacular]

So are they going to pick a coach before draft/July 1st in the case that he might want input on those things?

Not like Murray uses the coach's input, but they could at least pretend.

 

[mightyquack]

So are they going to pick a coach before draft/July 1st in the case that he might want input on those things?

Not like Murray uses the coach's input, but they could at least pretend.

The only input that matters: Draft the blonde Swedish defenceman

 

[ChaseANA]

The only input that matters: Draft the blonde Swedish defenceman

Looks like we will get Neimelainën.

 

[Sean Garrity]

Heard on NHL network radio that the Ducks are going to begin a 2nd round of interviews, but no specifics beyond that.

 

[Ducks in a row]

The issue is that the GM has taken away the parts that the last two coaches have needed and replaced them with parts they had to adapt to. One of the two managed to do that a lot better than the other, but neither was coaching to their strengths. Just because the players are different doesn't mean that they're the right players.

That wasn't the point of my post though. My point was that the arguments would cycle along that path, (because quite a few people disagree as to where the blame should fall, and are NOT going to change their minds) until the GM was brought up, and then someone would cycle back to the coach being the problem, and, well, here we are.

Yes we have made a lot of moves some bad but also some good moves like getting Kesler,Silfverberg and Thompson for some examples. Regardless of the changes we keep having the same problem blowing a 3-2 series lead. Not only that but game 7 we have given up 2 goals in the opening period 3 times and 3 goals 1 time. I question how well we have been prepared to start game 7's. I believe knowing BB coaching history has been a problem as well causing some doubt in the playoffs.

Yes their are some that like to put the total blame on the players some that put the blame on the coach and some that put blame on our GM. No one is blameless everyone deserves some of the blame. I hate hearing someone like Terry Yake absolve BB no one should be absolved of blame.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Yes we have made a lot of moves some bad but also some good moves like getting Kesler,Silfverberg and Thompson for some examples. Regardless of the changes we keep having the same problem blowing a 3-2 series lead. Not only that but game 7 we have given up 2 goals in the opening period 3 times and 3 goals 1 time. I question how well we have been prepared to start game 7's. I believe knowing BB coaching history has been a problem as well causing some doubt in the playoffs.

Yes their are some that like to put the total blame on the players some that put the blame on the coach and some that put blame on our GM. No one is blameless everyone deserves some of the blame. I hate hearing someone like Terry Yake absolve BB no one should be absolved of blame.

You're the flip side of that. BB was not the reason we lost this year. The players not bothering to play the system the first two games was. BB getting fired almost certainly ensures we are getting a worse coach for next year.

That, and injuries. I said before the series and still believe that we weren't a very good team going into the playoffs, but were closer to the group that started the season.

It doesn't matter if BM gets good players. What matters is that he removes complementary pieces that fit the playing style that the coaches prefer and brings in complementary pieces that don't. For two coaches in a row. And the amazing job that he does fixing his self-inflicted wounds doesn't absolve him of the self-inflicted wounds that are clearly bad ideas when he makes them.

 

[Ducks in a row]

You're the flip side of that. BB was not the reason we lost this year. The players not bothering to play the system the first two games was. BB getting fired almost certainly ensures we are getting a worse coach for next year.

That, and injuries. I said before the series and still believe that we weren't a very good team going into the playoffs, but were closer to the group that started the season.

It doesn't matter if BM gets good players. What matters is that he removes complementary pieces that fit the playing style that the coaches prefer and brings in complementary pieces that don't. For two coaches in a row. And the amazing job that he does fixing his self-inflicted wounds doesn't absolve him of the self-inflicted wounds that are clearly bad ideas when he makes them.

We might be worse during the regular season but should still make the playoffs and I will feel better going into playoffs then if we still had BB

Yes injuries did have a bad effect but still even if healthy and we beat the Predators I wouldn't bet on us beating the Sharks and the Blues and the Penguins to win the Cup. I would think we would of probably lost to the Sharks in round 2

Yes he has made bad moves but like I said also some good ones. Overall I am not really happy with how things have been but we still shouldn't of blown a 3-2 series lead 4 years in a row regardless. Everyone and I mean everyone is to blame BB,BM,Owners and players no one at all is absolved.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Any player who needs a coach to "prepare" him for game 7 is a loser who will never be prepared. I don't care how bad your coach is, it's game ****ing 7. You go out and bust your ass for 60 minutes regardless of the matchups and show people why you are an elite talent. Or, you don't, and you blame the coach for not preparing you.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Any player who needs a coach to "prepare" him for game 7 is a loser who will never be prepared. I don't care how bad your coach is, it's game ****ing 7. You go out and bust your ass for 60 minutes regardless of the matchups and show people why you are an elite talent. Or, you don't, and you blame the coach for not preparing you.

The Ducks as a team didn't seem to be properly prepared to start the game 7's it wasn't just specific players. Making sure your players are ready is part of a coaches job and each time BB failed at it. No way should we of had 1st periods 4 years in a row like we did.

 

[ChaseANA]

Eric Stephens just posted an article re: the search. Said that a decision could come within the next week.

Kinda reading between the lines here but it seems like Travis Green may be the guy. Just what I think.

Stephens knows his stuff but is sometimes too tight-lipped for my taste.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

The Ducks as a team didn't seem to be properly prepared to start the game 7's it wasn't just specific players. Making sure your players are ready is part of a coaches job and each time BB failed at it. No way should we of had 1st periods 4 years in a row like we did.

Any player who needs a coach to "prepare" him for game 7 is a loser who will never be prepared. I don't care how bad your coach is, it's game ****ing 7. You go out and bust your ass for 60 minutes regardless of the matchups and show people why you are an elite talent. Or, you don't, and you blame the coach for not preparing you.

 

[Ducks Nation*]

Eric Stephens just posted an article re: the search. Said that a decision could come within the next week.

Kinda reading between the lines here but it seems like Travis Green may be the guy. Just what I think.

Stephens knows his stuff but is sometimes too tight-lipped for my taste.

Sweet

 

[ChaseANA]

Article link: http://m.ocregister.com/articles/murray-718841-time-ducks.html

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

“He just knows where the athlete is,†said Portland Winterhawks assistant coach Kyle Gustafson, who worked with Green when they won the 2013 Western Hockey League title. “He knows how an athlete’s feeling game to game. He knows if a guy needs time off, he’s going to get time off. If a guy needs a cattle prod, he’s going to cattle prod him."

That certainly makes him a leading candidate in my book.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Or is it Carlyle, the Cup winner who’s under strong consideration for another turn to pull off what he did in 2007