Confirmed Trade: [CHI/PIT] Sam Lafferty for Alex Nylander
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I'm not sure you are referring to the same Nylander. Nylander is a total bust , he lacks any defensive prowess or offensive threat , he doesn't even compliment his other linemates, oh and besides being always out of position and soft he falls a considerable amount of time he is on the ice.
Stans contract decisions and purging young talent left chicago in a tough position both in Rockford and the team he was relegated to sending off the only young future defensive talent for retreads.
You haven't seen Nylander he is a bust . Lafferty while he won't light up the net he is still a better 4th line player than Nylander is. Nylander lacks and defense awareness nor is he a offensive threat and he certainly doesn't help or compliment his linemates, he is very soft and falls alot . You would think at 24 years old which for a guy who went in the top 10 of his draft class would be hitting his stride by now.
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The penguins are not the same talented team they once were, that they could put anyone on a line and they would look phenomenal.
Nylander is best suited for the AHL . Lafferty isn't going to make any noise he is still a upgrade over Nylander.
ForsbergMoDo21
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My comments have absolutely nothing to do with Nylander. I couldn't care less if Nylander ever plays a game for Pitt. My point is that losing Lafferty ISN'T a loss at all. He doesn't bring anything to the Pens that they don't already have in better players. And...just a reminder Nylander's last NHL goal was March 2020 (he missed all of last season), Lafferty's last NHL goal was February 2020...he didn't miss all of last season.
And replaced him with a guy whomhas how many NHL goals this year? How many NHL hits?
Again this isn't about offense and yes you are still wrong.....
Nobody said losing Lafferty was an issue, losing some of your grit on a soft team already is....and 99 percent of intelligent hockey people know grit has been an issue in the playoffs for aleast 2 years running. In fact the pens new management clearly agreed and said this as well prior .
Boils down this. Replaced a fringe NHL guys who might score 4 goals a year but deliver 100 hits and 5 fights with a fringe NHL guy who might score 6 goals, 5 hits and 0 fights..
Somewhere tom wilson has a big smile on
So your point is if I'm trying to understand, Lafferty who is a clear 4th liner that gives a team some grit is replaceable with a guy whom went in the top 10 in his draft class has been traded for his lack of defensive prowess and offensive threat to a team that thought a change of scenery was all he needed to breakout and instead we got the same issues also including his awareness on ice his constant falling , and his unwillingness to put in the work , and because of his laziness he wasn't in the best physical condition which resulted in him missing valuable time.
Lafferty isn't going to blow the doors off but his speed and grit is a upgrade to a kid who at 24 years old can't hit , falls , lacks the desire to go after the puck and clearly doesn't help his linemates out .
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Yes because Tom Wilson has every lost a minute of sleep over whether Sam effing Lafferty is in the line up...
I can't believe this is still even a live thread at this point.
Sam Lafferty is not the second coming of Rick Tochett or anything, he was, at best, the 15th best forward on the roster when the roster is healthy. If Lafferty is seeing ice time in the playoffs then something has gone so wrong that you might as well not even be playing.
Trading Lafferty for Nylander is like trading a crushed sprite can for a crushed coke can, they are different yeah, but in the end both are pretty much worthless
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I wouldn't say that's clear at all.
Lafferty was not one of the Pens' 12 best forwards. He wasn't even 13th (Simon) or 14th (Boyle), guys who make league min and were picked up for nothing in FA.
Big McLargehuge
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Nylander probably helps the AHL club more than Lafferty helps any NHL club...and WBS needs help badly. Lafferty has to clear waivers to be assigned there, Nylander doesn't. I legitimately don't think there's much more to this trade than that. For Chicago they're getting a player who you can plug onto a fourth line without sinking it, which you can't do with a player like Nylander.
WBS is traditionally very good to at least above average, an important part of the Penguins ability to plug unknowns in without missing much of a beat...but between icing a ton of professional rookies, fewer vets, and covid, WBS only had 2 guys with more than 4 goals on the season (dead last in the AHL in scoring).
WBS is traditionally very good to at least above average, an important part of the Penguins ability to plug unknowns in without missing much of a beat...but between icing a ton of professional rookies, fewer vets, and covid, WBS only had 2 guys with more than 4 goals on the season (dead last in the AHL in scoring).
Your still missing the point. Nylander is a bust and there isn't a line you can put this kid on and get any production or safe sound play from. He is a AHL player only. Lafferty whilst he may not be your best of your 4th line players , he is still a upgrade albeit limited but a guy who brings speed and grit if your not going to score and lack any defensive prowess or grit and you don't help your linemates out what purpose does Nylander serve ?
That's the entire point . The poster tried to claim that Nylander will somehow magically become a better player with Pittsburgh forward group and in reality Pittsburgh isn't the same dynamic team they were a few years ago.
He was given every opportunity and skated with both toews and kane and he never showed any improvement in any areas of the game or mental capacity
Wow exactly what I said in about 50 less words!!!! Only difference is the crushed can of Lafferty is 5 times as tough...
So would these guys play a game already so we can microanalyze how much of a bust each one is?
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I'm simply rebutting the idea that Lafferty's a clear 4th liner.
9th in the league in GF/G, ahead of Tampa and Edmonton, all despite a ton of injuries including a superstar center all year.
Not too shabby
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Lafferty had a good start to his NHL career. Then, he had a terrible 2nd year where nothing went right for him. The potential is still there for him to be a good addition to a team’s bottom six. The guy forechecks and backchecks like a machine. He is a noticeable player even when he doesn’t show up on the scoreboard.
Thanks for bumping. Trade Pit—did we get our backup goalie?!? Oh, just the nothing trade from three days ago. And now I’m hypocrite for bumping it too.
Empoleon8771
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Nylander's first point with WBS. He's almost definitely the most skilled guy on the team, as sad as that may sound
Empoleon8771
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Last bus home for Alex Nylander. Obviously talented but has to get his pro career in gear. Could be a good pickup eventually for the Pens considering their prospect depth. Mike Sullivan>>>whatever jackass is coaching for the Blackhawks/Ice Hogs at the moment.
Lafferty never looked like much but you never know.
Lafferty never looked like much but you never know.
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Nylander's first point with WBS. He's almost definitely the most skilled guy on the team, as sad as that may sound
Nylander has always been extremely skilled, so it's not that sad.
He just never learned how to skate. But his hands, vision, and release are all top 6 NHL quality.
Skating . Awfully important in ice hockey. Skill set means nothing if you can't use it. Pens will miss the bit of grit Lafferty brought.
