madinsomniac
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Its almost as if one of those two players missed the entirety of last season with a massive knee injury or something........Lafferty last scored in February of 2020.
Nylander’s last goal was in March of 2020.
Confirmed Trade: [CHI/PIT] Sam Lafferty for Alex Nylander
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Artorius Horus T
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Nylander stinks even more. That's why.
The other, is an NHL level player and the other,
barely an AHL level player
Hawks wins this trade 100%.
Artorius Horus T
sincerety
He plays top minutes for Rockford, has 8 goals and is 0.50 ppg this season.
Youre safe, don't worry.
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How is Lafferty an NHL player? Because he plays in games when 5 forwards are out?
He skates fast, chases hits, is a huge liability defensively and with penalties.
Artorius Horus T
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Okay, maybe he isn't., i'll give you that, but he is still better what Nylander and, at least Lafferty tries hard.
Nylander just doesn't care, he thinks he is the best in the world, but he sucks, barely AHL level player.
Artorius Horus T
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Indeed.
He was drafted 6 years ago, he turns 24 in March with about 300 pro games under his belt already.
- he is what he is as a pro, there's no more upside
Althou 24 is still young, he has had 6 years of pro development and he has developed none.
Rodgerwilco
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Ah I’ve heard of that, idk why I was reading that like there was an instance where he actually called the goalie the wrong name or something lol.
Mrfenn92
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Hawks gonna hawks. Would’ve preferred to just keep Nylander even in the Ahl playing with the one prospect they haven’t destroyed yet with their stellar management.
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This doesn't make a lot of sense for Chicago.
But what really baffles me is how no other team would offer up a bit more for Nylander. I know his value has bottomed out. But you'd think a rebuilding team would be able to scrounge up something and give him an NHL shot for a while. Where was Seattle, Arizona, or Ottawa? Couldn't these teams afford a depth grinder and a few weeks of a roster spot? Guys like Nylander should be targeted by rebuilding teams as reclamation projects. Give him ice time and see if he sticks. How was PIT (presumably, based on the nothing return) the only team willing to give anything?
But what really baffles me is how no other team would offer up a bit more for Nylander. I know his value has bottomed out. But you'd think a rebuilding team would be able to scrounge up something and give him an NHL shot for a while. Where was Seattle, Arizona, or Ottawa? Couldn't these teams afford a depth grinder and a few weeks of a roster spot? Guys like Nylander should be targeted by rebuilding teams as reclamation projects. Give him ice time and see if he sticks. How was PIT (presumably, based on the nothing return) the only team willing to give anything?
I agree by age 24 if you didn't blossom earlier in your career you should be starting to hit your stride because most forwards start there decline around 28 to 30 years old.
Nylander was a retread project that failed miserably, teams are fully aware of his lack of defense, offensive threat and he falls alot especially at age 24 his value is exactly what chicago received a 4th liner .
One of those trade where whoever plays the new guy the most likely loses.
3ladesof5teel
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What are you his girlfriend? Does he tell you what he thinks he his at the dinner table?
Just curious
The Pens already have a 4th line offensive blackhole that hits everything in ZAR, they have zero need for Lafferty. ZAR averages 3.8 hits/gm and Laff was 3.4 hits/gm. But ZAR averages 0.3pts/gm and Laff was 0.2pts/gm. But here's the kicker Laff averaged 1.2 mins penalized each game to ZAR's 0.6 mins.
Empoleon8771
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I don't get why people are saying Nylander is definitely a bust right now. In 2019-2020, he was a solid 3rd line producer in the NHL as a 21 year old. Sure, he has taken a step back due to that massive knee injury, but why write off someone who is only 23 years old and has already shown some success in the NHL?
It's totally possible that Nylander is cooked due to that knee injury, but he has played in 23 games in total since the knee injury
It's totally possible that Nylander is cooked due to that knee injury, but he has played in 23 games in total since the knee injury
brewski420
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Of course it is Leafs fans ripping on the Pens side of the deal. No surprise there. Of course not looking at the main reason for the deal in that Nylander is not waiver eligible while Lafferty is and Malkin is coming back soon. Absolutely a no lose situation for the Pens and if for some reason Nylander becomes serviceable then great. If not no loss at all.
This trade will probably have no winners or losers.
p.s. Maybe Lafferty clears maybe not.
This trade will probably have no winners or losers.
p.s. Maybe Lafferty clears maybe not.
KrisLetAngry
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+ the fact ZAR plays an extra 5 minutes a game you wouldn't think the penalty difference would be so much.
Point s per game for both players garbage though.
That's true, my point is that trading Lafferty means nothing to the Pens because they have a better version of him in ZAR
KrisLetAngry
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You don't have to be sitting at the table with him if youve seen him play....and I have this year. He spent the majority of the time looking for a break out pass in the neutral zone AND all you have to know is the family history....Daddy has been meddling in the careers of both will and alex from day 1. you talk to people who saw him play in rochester and they say he was a prima donna there also( yes I have spoken with people who saw him and interacted with him in rochester) add in the daddy factor and it's no wonder he plays like he does...This family is the hockey version of the Ball family with a tamer dad and a lot less talent.
This couldn't be more wrong LOL..its not about offensive at all nor is it about ZAR. Its about the lack of grit throughout the pens lineup. Your fancy stats mean sqaur especially come playoff time.
The basic logical point is they replaced a player with some grit with a player with none or a team already lacking grit which was one of the key reasons they lost the last 2 playoff rounds....
They replaced a guy that hasn't scored an NHL goal since February 2020 with a guy who didn't play a game last season yet hasn't scored an NHL goal since March 2020. They replaced their #16 (when healthy) forward with a former Top 10 pick that is still only 23. Lafferty has virtually done nothing since his first 10 NHL games. Why do they need a #16 forward that doesn't hit as much as ZAR, is smaller than Boyle, Zahorna and Angello and has less offensive punch than ZAR. You can say that I am wrong (I'm not) and laugh all you like, but I'm not the one thinking that losing Lafferty is an issue. I would say that at least 95% of Pens fans would agree, Lafferty is nothing.
Well I was just picking a number out of my ass. I just can't understand how any Pens fan would even try to argue getting rid of Lafferty as being a bad move.
