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THall4 said:
Love that Getzlaf got his **** pushed in a bit. Him and Ducks run around doing **** like that picking on smaller players, acting like tough guys then cower behind the refs when someone equal or bigger comes at them.

Watched it happen all series long last year vs the Oilers.
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How long are you guys going to cry about getting bullied by the Ducks in the playoffs?
 
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Sol said:
That's why i am asking for a better angle cause I cant tell from the videos accurately. No need to be so bitter. I judged by a slowed down video on YouTube and the way he fell.

**** I could be wrong. Hence asking for a closer better video.
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Okay well this take is fair. I've even conceded he may have suffered incidental contact to the head. But in the case of Backes' safety, it's pretty apparent the arm and shoulder are the initial point of contact so that's where the majority of the impact went, hence why he's uninjured and was present for practice today. But as to the dirtiness and suspendability of the hit, unless it's clear that the intent was to hit the head, it isn't "easily suspendable".

To be frank, I couldn't give a shit if Ritchie got suspended or not. The Ducks wouldn't be that much worse off without him. But through the three angles I've seen, all three indicate to me that the primary point of contact is the arms, then travels up to shoulders, and what is unclear is if the follow through traveled up to the head. The overhead view of the play is as unreliable as it is on any other play. Could he have clipped the head a little? Maybe, but at that angle it's just as likely that the shoulder appears to be behind Backes' head through the hit. The other angles are even less convincing as to whether or not the shoulder came into contact with his head. But in any event I don't think Ritchie intended contact to the head in any fashion. Should he have pulled up after Backes fumbled the puck? That's questionable and my answer would so long as we hold that standard to every player that finishes a check on a defenseman that cleared the puck. These kinds of hits on players that dispose of the puck happen all the time. The difference here was Backes was caught staring at his own flubbed pass.

EDIT: Despite your new, more fair stance on the matter though. My bitterness is derived from how you used every excuse you could to exculpate Brown from hitting a guy who couldn't see him, who didn't have the puck, and was in a vulnerable position. If we were to apply the same justifications you gave to Brown there isn't a shot in hell that you could say what Ritchie did was "easily suspendable." At best you would've at least given him some benefit of the doubt from the onset.
 
Sol said:
That's why i am asking for a better angle cause I cant tell from the videos accurately. No need to be so bitter. I judged by a slowed down video on YouTube and the way he fell.

**** I could be wrong. Hence asking for a closer better video.
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"Easily suspendable" to "I can't tell from the videos accurately".

In that order of course.
 
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Pretty funny how bruins fans are yelling about how late ritchie's hit was and saying nothing about Chara's later hit on Henrique. Edwards has done a number on you guys.
 
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i think it's true that all these bruins fans are so worked up about it mainly because of little league world series commentator jack edwards's reaction to the hit, which was predictably awful and biased
 
Terry Yake said:
i think it's true that all these bruins fans are so worked up about it mainly because of little league world series commentator jack edwards's reaction to the hit, which was predictably awful and biased
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And people say Hayward is bad (he's certainly not great but Edwards makes him look like a paragon of unbiased commentary)
 
THall4 said:
Love that Getzlaf got his **** pushed in a bit. Him and Ducks run around doing **** like that picking on smaller players, acting like tough guys then cower behind the refs when someone equal or bigger comes at them.

Watched it happen all series long last year vs the Oilers.
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The Ducks bullied the Oilers.
 
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HanSolo said:
Okay well this take is fair. I've even conceded he may have suffered incidental contact to the head. But in the case of Backes' safety, it's pretty apparent the arm and shoulder are the initial point of contact so that's where the majority of the impact went, hence why he's uninjured and was present for practice today. But as to the dirtiness and suspendability of the hit, unless it's clear that the intent was to hit the head, it isn't "easily suspendable".

To be frank, I couldn't give a **** if Ritchie got suspended or not. The Ducks wouldn't be that much worse off without him. But through the three angles I've seen, all three indicate to me that the primary point of contact is the arms, then travels up to shoulders, and what is unclear is if the follow through traveled up to the head. The overhead view of the play is as unreliable as it is on any other play. Could he have clipped the head a little? Maybe, but at that angle it's just as likely that the shoulder appears to be behind Backes' head through the hit. The other angles are even less convincing as to whether or not the shoulder came into contact with his head. But in any event I don't think Ritchie intended contact to the head in any fashion. Should he have pulled up after Backes fumbled the puck? That's questionable and my answer would so long as we hold that standard to every player that finishes a check on a defenseman that cleared the puck. These kinds of hits on players that dispose of the puck happen all the time. The difference here was Backes was caught staring at his own flubbed pass.

EDIT: Despite your new, more fair stance on the matter though. My bitterness is derived from how you used every excuse you could to exculpate Brown from hitting a guy who couldn't see him, who didn't have the puck, and was in a vulnerable position. If we were to apply the same justifications you gave to Brown there isn't a shot in hell that you could say what Ritchie did was "easily suspendable." At best you would've at least given him some benefit of the doubt from the onset.
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Sure I'll concede, I only saw the over head which made it look undeniably a headshot, but now seeing another angle it looks arm / shoulder. I can't really see though. And I'm being honest.


Has he ever been suspended?
 
HanSolo said:
And people say Hayward is bad (he's certainly not great but Edwards makes him look like a paragon of unbiased commentary)
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hayward sucks but edwards is absolutely brutal. but these bruins fans seem to look to edwards to see what their reaction should be to plays like this

if edwards says its a late hit, then it must be a late hit!
 
Some people just want to make this game marshmallow soft. To them, a big hit is always a bad hit, no matter what.

Finishing a hit, shoulder-to-shoulder on a player in possession is not a penalty, let alone something DOPS would look at, as awful as they are.
 
oh look, our old pal sol has arrived

let me guess, the hit was dirty and late and ritchie should be suspended?
 
PatriceBergeronFan said:
The linesmen need to back off in that situation. The anti fighting is just out of hand.

No player is capable of handling Angry Chara.

Normal Chara is a different case but even Laraque would not want to fight that Chara last night.
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Please, prime Chara tried to wrestle Laraque because he was too scared.
 
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MordredGK said:
So Ritchie throws a clean hit; Chara responds with a late hit on a different player and starts throwing punches at Getzlaf when he's tied up by the linesman; extremely biased commentator complains and praises both of Chara's dirty plays.

Edit: not that Ritchie and Getzlaf are choir boys, or that Getzlaf would have done well in that fight.
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Is this your first year watching hockey?

Response to clean hits has always been there. Old school/tough players don't care if it was clean, they're still going to respond if you knock out one of their guys.

Chara has been doing this forever
 
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Sol said:
Sure I'll concede, I only saw the over head which made it look undeniably a headshot, but now seeing another angle it looks arm / shoulder. I can't really see though. And I'm being honest.


Has he ever been suspended?
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Ritchie got 2 games for sucker punching rozsival
 
Pay Carl said:
Is this your first year watching hockey?

Response to clean hits has always been there. Old school/tough players don't care if it was clean, they're still going to respond if you knock out one of their guys.

Chara has been doing this forever
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Getzlaf was responding to Charas hit... I don't see why this is even a thread in the first place... granted I don't think its in anyones best interest to go after chara, specially if he seems a little mad.
 
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