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Proposal: Ceci to Leafs

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topshelf15 said:
:popcorn:The leafs need another year in the basement ,they seem to think their rebuild will go from one bad season to a cup within the same year .Far too much hype :nod:
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Really ? I don't see any TML fans being dicks here . It was an Ottawa fans who bought up Ceci being equal to Reilly . They bought up how Ceci played more minutes for team Canada . The fact was they coach gave the lessor players a chance early on and went with the better players as the competition got stronger . Hence the reason Reilly got more minutes the last 4 important games .

Now I can understand Ottawa fans not wanting to trade him . He is young RHD that will get better and the Sens don't have a replacement for him but it was not the TML fans that made unrealistic statements to this point .

Now I will go get sick for sticking up for Leafs fans :headache:
 
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HFboardUser said:
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Cody Ceci (RFA Rights)

Curtis Lazar

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Brendan Leipsic

Travis Dermott

Connor Brown

2017 2nd round pick


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Thoughts?
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One of the worst trade proposals I have ever seen. A bunch of scraps for two first rounders that are transitioning into playing top 4 and top 9minutes. Why on earth would Ottawa do this?

Its like the sens asking for Rielly and Kapanen for Chlapik, Paul, Dzingel and a 2nd round pick. Even that package is better than the one the leafs offered.

Morgs said:
Leafs pass.
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In what world.... Delusional
 
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TheDoldrums said:
You mean the guy who played more in the first few games. Ceci's highest ice times were against Germany and Slovakia. Once the games actually got tough and important, it was a different story.

Group stage vs Finland TOI

Ceci: 15:49
Rielly: 21:35

Quarter-Finals vs Sweden

Ceci: 17:37
Rielly: 19:39

Semi-Finals vs USA

Ceci: 15:59
Rielly: 22:11

Gold Medal game vs Finland

Ceci: 15:59
Rielly: 25:53

When Rielly plays 10 minutes more in the Championship game...I think it's pretty clear who was on the top pair.
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If you were paying attention at all Ceci was inexplicably bumped from the first pair to the third because Ellis joined the team.
 
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bert said:
One of the worst trade proposals I have ever seen. A bunch of scraps for two first rounders that are transitioning into playing top 4 and top 9minutes. Why on earth would Ottawa do this?

Its like the sens asking for Rielly and Kapanen for Chlapik, Paul, Dzingel and a 2nd round pick. Even that package is better than the one the leafs offered.
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Thanks for letting us know you know nothing about the Leaf players
 
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bert said:
If you were paying attention at all Ceci was inexplicably bumped from the first pair to the third because Ellis joined the team.
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I don't get how this is an argument? If Ceci was so good he'd still be playing the minutes.
 
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bert said:
In what world.... Delusional
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I guess I don't see what most see in Ceci.

Also, I believe Dermott has a very very strong chance of becoming a top-4 D in the next few seasons (But don't tell anyone, I want to keep him quiet before everyone starts hating on him). Also trading Brown, plus a 2nd, plus Leipsic? I'd rather wait for these guys to get some real value (Which they probably will) and then keep the best of them and trade the ones a little worse.

Easy pass for me, don't care what the perceived value for Ceci is.
 
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McSuper said:
Larsson has been used as a top pairing shut down D with only 20% offensive zone starts , No PP time . The value between Ceci and Larsson are worlds apart . I am not sure you know who Larsson is if you think Ceci has as much value
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I know who Larsson is.

I'm more so talking down Larsson as a #1 guy (you will be very disappointed if you are hoping that) than talking up Ceci being even top pairing guy.

I think those two are closer than you would be led to believe.

You guys needed a D badly, and overpaid for a lesser player. You're a better team for it for sure though, that's all that matters.
 
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Gavy said:
Thanks for letting us know you know nothing about the Leaf players
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I know them very well thanks, I have Brown in a keeper league. Those prospects are very comparable. Leaf fans are dilusional about how good all their prospects are for christ sakes you didnt even include any of the top prospects outside of Brown.

Dermott was a 2nd round Chlapik was a 2nd rounder. Its not even 2 years from the draft.

Paul and Brown are very similar prospects in terms of where they rank and how they project going forward.

Dzingle and Leipsic are similar level prospects too. Perhaps you should do some research on the sens.
 
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Gavy said:
I don't get how this is an argument? If Ceci was so good he'd still be playing the minutes.
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Again if you were paying attention he was playing the most and succeeding until Ellis came to the team late. Or did you miss that one?
 
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Morgs said:
I guess I don't see what most see in Ceci.

Also, I believe Dermott has a very very strong chance of becoming a top-4 D in the next few seasons (But don't tell anyone, I want to keep him quiet before everyone starts hating on him). Also trading Brown, plus a 2nd, plus Leipsic? I'd rather wait for these guys to get some real value (Which they probably will) and then keep the best of them and trade the ones a little worse.

Easy pass for me, don't care what the perceived value for Ceci is.
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Well ya you're a blatant homer like most leaf fans on here. You guys do understand the media over hypes every single toronto team especially the leafs. Its how they get ratings and pay the bills.

The only reason you dont 'perceive' Ceci's value is because you choose not to acknowledge other teams players.
 
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bert said:
I know them very well thanks, I have Brown in a keeper league. Those prospects are very comparable. Leaf fans are dilusional about how good all their prospects are for christ sakes you didnt even include any of the top prospects outside of Brown.

Dermott was a 2nd round Chlapik was a 2nd rounder. Its not even 2 years from the draft.

Paul and Brown are very similar prospects in terms of where they rank and how they project going forward.

Dzingle and Leipsic are similar level prospects too. Perhaps you should do some research on the sens.
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Chlapik is not on the same level as Dermott.

Even if the offer was similar to the leafs, Rielly and Ceci are not so your offer would have to be better
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Again if you were paying attention he was playing the most and succeeding until Ellis came to the team late. Or did you miss that one?
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Again, how is that an argument for how good Ceci is if he lost his spot to a player that Rielly outperformed.

I guess anybody who doesn't agree with you is just a homer.
 
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I pass on this as a Leafs fan. I'd be patient with Dermott, no rush to move him. There's a chance he'll be better than Ceci. I also like Leipsic/Brown, they should be top 9 forwards of the Leafs. Lazar at this point is a 4th liner, no need for him.
 
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