Prospect Info: CBJ Prospect Thread XI

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Malatesta now joins CBJ Legend Michael Chaput as the only 2 Memorial Cup MVP winners in Franchise history.

Most winners of that MVP award have gone on the solid NHL careers.

 

[majormajor]

That was a lot of first rounders in this game, and Malatesta was better than all of them.

Malatesta-Jenner-Marchenko

Or with Fantilli. Forget pretty plays and just attack like a hive of bees.

 

[stevo61]

The Memorial Cup is an underrated hard trophy ton win. Not only do you go through the grind of winning your league, you have to beat the best the other leagues have to offer. On top of that you generally only get 2 or 3 cracks at it. To be the best player in the finals is a huge honor and he had a fantastic showing. Congrats kid and hope he makes the show one day

That was a lot of first rounders in this game, and Malatesta was better than all of them.



Or with Fantilli. Forget pretty plays and just attack like a hive of bees.

Funny enough the hive of bees description makes me think of Calvert-Dubinsky-Atkinson

 

[Cowumbus]

That was a lot of first rounders in this game, and Malatesta was better than all of them.

What did you think of Bolduc?

I know he scored, but he looked like he didn’t want to get hit. You could tell he has hockey IQ, but he didn’t really impact the game that much imo.



^Old but still good

 

[majormajor]

What did you think of Bolduc?

I know he scored, but he looked like he didn’t want to get hit. You could tell he has hockey IQ, but he didn’t really impact the game that much imo.



^Old but still good

Yeah that's all I noticed. Seems like a soft player. Would fit in well next to Guenther and Lambert.

 

[Cowumbus]

 

[stevo61]

Yeah that's all I noticed. Seems like a soft player. Would fit in well next to Guenther and Lambert.

Everytime someone gets excited for Lambert he has to play a tight game like this and you are reminded of what he actually is... A desription on the mains that is a bit over the top but funny " His hockey sense is sure on display in the finals.

I genuinely don’t know how he manages to find the arena"

Guenther had some moments but 1 guy tries to hit you and you throw a hissy fit putting your team shorthanded in the 3rd period of the final game of your junior career? Oh and they score? Gotta do a lot of growing up to make your mark in the NHL

 

[stevo61]

defense won the game for a Q team, how perfect is that

 

[Cowumbus]

defense won the game for a Q team, how perfect is that

Would only be better if they were a Maritime division team

It was easy to see Roy’s defensive system, especially in the neutral zone. Pretty interesting to watch.

 

[koteka]

Forget pretty plays and just attack like a hive of bees.

Call them the yellow jacket line? Or the Stinger line?

 

[pete goegan]

 

[DEF]

It was all good until he put his hat on backwards.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[GoJackets1]

So, this flew extremely under the radar for me this year, but Samuel Johannesson looks like he really took a huge jump in the SHL this year. Can't speak to his actual play, but he had 8G, 24A in 52 games this year for one of the worst teams in the SHL. Last year he had 1G, 6A in 48 games. That is an interestingly large jump in points to me, even if he took on a bigger role. I wonder if he could become a solid bottom-pair NHL guy after all.

He's playing with Örebro next year according to EliteProspects, so if we take Carlsson and he stays in Sweden next year, could be fun to watch both of them.

 

[tunnelvision]

So, this flew extremely under the radar for me this year, but Samuel Johannesson looks like he really took a huge jump in the SHL this year. Can't speak to his actual play, but he had 8G, 24A in 52 games this year for one of the worst teams in the SHL. Last year he had 1G, 6A in 48 games. That is an interestingly large jump in points to me, even if he took on a bigger role. I wonder if he could become a solid bottom-pair NHL guy after all.

He's playing with Örebro next year according to EliteProspects, so if we take Carlsson and he stays in Sweden next year, could be fun to watch both of them.

We don't own his NHL rights anymore though

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

We don't own his NHL rights anymore though

That explains the jump!

 

[GoJackets1]

We don't own his NHL rights anymore though

That would explain why it went under the radar, I did not know that. haha

 

[Legionnaire11]

Looking for info on players who made their NHL debut last season. Specifically what type of player they are and what their future NHL outlook is. Thanks!

F - Hunter McKown
F - Kirill Marchenko
F - Mikael Pyyhtia
F - Tyler Angle
D - Bill Sweezey
D - Marcus Bjork
D - Samuel Knazko
D - Stanislav Svozil
D - Tim Berni
G - Jet Greaves

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Looking for info on players who made their NHL debut last season. Specifically what type of player they are and what their future NHL outlook is. Thanks!

F - Hunter McKown
F - Kirill Marchenko
F - Mikael Pyyhtia
F - Tyler Angle
D - Bill Sweezey
D - Marcus Bjork
D - Samuel Knazko
D - Stanislav Svozil
D - Tim Berni
G - Jet Greaves

the two guys who jump out as slam-dunk nhl contributing pieces on that list are marchenko and svozil. kirill looks like a surefire top six scoring winger and svozil looks like a very good bet to be a two-way second pair LHD who can play on both special teams units. marchenko's already playing in the top six, while svozil will likely be cleveland's #1 defenseman this year and i think he'll be an NHL lineup regular by the end of the season if they don't acquire a veteran LHD to play on the third pair.

knazko and mckown look like intriguing pieces, both have talent to eventually be NHL players. i could see knazko being a nice third pair puck mover (although his size/athleticism gives him a bit of a ceiling beyond that) while mckown looks like a bottom six guy who can score and get power play minutes. if his skating improves he could be on the higher end of that (complimentary third line player).

greaves also looked really good in his NHL call-up.

berni and bjork look like passable depth defensemen (the type who you like as your #7 and live with as a #6 on a top-loaded team). sweezey, pyyhtia and angle look like AHL guys to me.

 

[Xoggz22]

Looking for info on players who made their NHL debut last season. Specifically what type of player they are and what their future NHL outlook is. Thanks!

F - Hunter McKown - Maybe a bottom 6 guy. no higher in the lineup and may be an extra forward type player
F - Kirill Marchenko - top 6 wing that should only improve. Heavier goal to assist player. power play guy, unlikely PK but he looks to play a 200ft game so ???
F - Mikael Pyyhtia - high volume shooter, was surprised with his NHL debut in a good way. Going to be tough to crack top 6 and don't see him as a bottom 6 or special teams guy. Needs time in AHL to give indication of pathway. Has good skill. I think he's top 9 or Europe and going to be tough in CBJ due to wing depth.
F - Tyler Angle - maybe 4th line or 13th forward but likely AHL player.
D - Bill Sweezey - AHL with spot duty for deep injury situation. Provides toughness but not enough else to play consistently in NHL.
D - Marcus Bjork - inconsistent but could be bottom pair/7th D type player. Still needs to show more and become consistent. I think he's around 10th on depth chart and may not get QO from CBJ
D - Samuel Knazko - Needs a bit of time in the AHL. NHL debut was simply due to lack of options.
D - Stanislav Svozil - Future top 4 that should play all situations. High IQ and driven to succeed by all accounts. Needs time in AHL but could be in NHL in 24/25
D - Tim Berni - I liked him as a 3rd pair guy. Moves puck well, smart, excellent puck distributor (stretch pass was impressive to me). Going to be tough with CBJ but I think he can play NHL games. not a top 4 guy that I can see.
G - Jet Greaves - NHL game was outstanding. Goalies are tough but he moves well, appears controlled but way too early to get a read on NHL potential. Will be in AHL for at least another year.

See above for my thoughts anyway... (limited viewing so all subjective)

 

[Cowumbus]

F - Hunter McKown

Upside 3/4C depending on depth, most likely 4C or AHL lifer.

F - Kirill Marchenko

Upside 1RW, most likely middle 6 RW.

F - Mikael Pyyhtia

Upside 3LW, likely 50/50 long-term between NHL and Europe.

F - Tyler Angle

Career AHLer, 14th forward.

D - Bill Sweezey

Career AHLer 8th D.

D - Marcus Bjork

Upside #6D, probably a #7 to AHL call up depending on depth of the team.

D - Samuel Knazko

Upside #5-6D. Most likely an AHL lifer / Europe.

D - Stanislav Svozil

Upside #4 LHD. Most likely #5 OFD.

D - Tim Berni

Upside #4/5D depending on the depth of the team, most likely a #6/7D.

G - Jet Greaves

Upside NHL backup, not sure how likely as goalies are hard to judge.

 

[Doggy]

Looking for info on players who made their NHL debut last season. Specifically what type of player they are and what their future NHL outlook is. Thanks!

F - Hunter McKown
F - Kirill Marchenko
F - Mikael Pyyhtia
F - Tyler Angle
D - Bill Sweezey
D - Marcus Bjork
D - Samuel Knazko
D - Stanislav Svozil
D - Tim Berni
G - Jet Greaves

I feel like there are not going to be any hot takes on any of these guys, most in here are going to be fairly close on their projections of everyone.

The closest I could get to a hot-take for me is on Svozil. I hope he's a second pairing d-man but I am not confident his juniors experience is proof he's a quality NHL contributor. I think his upcoming season in Cleveland he's got a lot to prove. Should be fun seeing him and Ceulemans together, two guys the CBJ are pretty bullish on.

 

[Viqsi]

Upside 3/4C depending on depth, most likely 4C or AHL lifer.

Upside 1RW, most likely middle 6 RW.

Upside 3LW, likely 50/50 long-term between NHL and Europe.

Career AHLer, 14th forward.

Career AHLer 8th D.

Upside #6D, probably a #7 to AHL call up depending on depth of the team.

Upside #5-6D. Most likely an AHL lifer / Europe.

Upside #4 LHD. Most likely #5 OFD.

Upside #4/5D depending on the depth of the team, most likely a #6/7D.

Upside NHL backup, not sure how likely as goalies are hard to judge.

I'd put Svozil's upside at #3 rather than #4, but otherwise this seems fair.

 

[majormajor]

I feel like there are not going to be any hot takes on any of these guys, most in here are going to be fairly close on their projections of everyone.

The closest I could get to a hot-take for me is on Svozil. I hope he's a second pairing d-man but I am not confident his juniors experience is proof he's a quality NHL contributor. I think his upcoming season in Cleveland he's got a lot to prove. Should be fun seeing him and Ceulemans together, two guys the CBJ are pretty bullish on.

I'd put Svozil's upside at #3 rather than #4, but otherwise this seems fair.

Sometimes I'm wondering what we mean by upside.

For me it's the highest level you can't rule out with 90%-95% certainty. It's not about "proof" that the player will reach that level, it's closer to absence of proof that he can't.

Like I can't prove that Svozil is going to be an NHLer but I also think he's got a greater than 5-10% chance of becoming a top pair D in the NHL (judging from where we sit, with considerable ignorance).

By comparison, at Svozil's age, Adam Fox (to use a deliberately extreme example) was about point per game as a college sophomore, and had just put up 5 pts in 7 games at the World Juniors. This compares to Svozil's 8 pts in 7 games, and a monster WHL season. Fox then has a huge breakout the following year in college and then joins the NHL in his D+4 season. These are two players with similar tangible skillsets and similar builds. Almost no one becomes Adam Fox level good, but many players become top pair level with somewhat similar skillsets.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Should be fun seeing him and Ceulemans together, two guys the CBJ are pretty bullish on.

i hope they split them up while they're down there. something like svozil - bjork and berni - ceulemans.

both guys love to activate and jump in the rush – ideally they'll have partners who don't play that same style of game but also aren't statues back there.