Prospect Info: CBJ Prospect Thread XI

[Cowumbus]

 

[5th Line Fanatic]

Is Matty Beniers the #1 Center and face of a professional franchise in Seattle, or a frat boy at State U with his hat on backwards hitting on sorority chicks? It's hard to know, but I've never heard of a grown man preferring to be called Matty.

 

[Cowumbus]

Is Matty Beniers the #1 Center and face of a professional franchise in Seattle, or a frat boy at State U with his hat on backwards hitting on sorority chicks?

Why do you sound bitter

It's hard to know, but I've never heard of a grown man preferring to be called Matty.

Well he’s 20.

 

[MissADD]

It's hard to know, but I've never heard of a grown man preferring to be called Matty.

It also could be a name that just stuck to help differentiate between people. Until I changed my name people from grade school/high school called me by my first name plus my last initial even after the kid in my class with same name as me moved away.

 

[Doggy]

Is Matty Beniers the #1 Center and face of a professional franchise in Seattle, or a frat boy at State U with his hat on backwards hitting on sorority chicks? It's hard to know, but I've never heard of a grown man preferring to be called Matty.

Maybe amongst his friends and family he is known as "Matt". You know...like Johnny Hockey who outside of hockey is known as "John". Either way, who cares.

 

[ColumbusTrill]

Is Matty Beniers the #1 Center and face of a professional franchise in Seattle, or a frat boy at State U with his hat on backwards hitting on sorority chicks? It's hard to know, but I've never heard of a grown man preferring to be called Matty.

Does Dougie Hamilton's name bother you too?

 

[5th Line Fanatic]

Why do you sound bitter

Well he’s 20.

I don't care, I just think it's bad for his brand.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

 

[Doggy]

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Can I add one? Can't believe the US elected this guy! Think about his brand...I believe it's the reason stuffed animal bears are called Teddy Bears.

Edit: according to The History Channel, he was shot before the speech...not during it. He refused to go to the hospital until after giving the speech.

 

[VT]

 

[CBJWerenski8]

2. Who grew?​

Center Luca Del Bel Belluz and defenseman Denton Mateychuk, both in their second camps since getting drafted in 2022, both looked noticeably bigger. Both said they’ve gained about 15 pounds of muscle.

Del Bel Belluz is turning pro this year, likely to play with AHL Cleveland after a strong final season in the Ontario Hockey League. The Blue Jackets’ center depth chart has changed dramatically this summer, but he can use the time in Cleveland.

Mateychuk is too young to play in the AHL next season, so it’s back to Moose Jaw of the Western Hockey League for him.

“You always want to see that progress,” Kekalainen said. “With some guys, you see some radical jumps. They can make big gains in the offseason at this age. We’re glad to see it.”

3. Rysavy plans​

It’s mildly surprising that checking-line forward Martin Rysavy hasn’t signed an entry-level contract yet. What are the Blue Jackets waiting for? They have his rights for another year — he was drafted out of Europe — but he seems like the kind of player they’d want to keep.

In Rysavy’s defense, he’s not a four-on-four or three-on-three player. He’s a “structure” guy who thrives in a defensive role. When Czechia played Canada in the world juniors last winter, Rysavy was the principal matchup against Canada’s Connor Bedard, which is no small task.

Rysavy said he’d had productive conversations with the Blue Jackets development coaching staff, and he has a “good indication” why he’s not signed yet. But he didn’t feel the need to speak publicly about it.

One other mystery about Rysavy is where he’ll play next season. He could return for a third season with Moose Jaw of the WHL, or he may return to Czechia to play in the pro league.

“We’ll get together with him and discuss and see what we think is best for his development,” said Chris Clark, the Blue Jackets director of player personnel.

 

[stevo61]

I never even considered the fact DBB is able to play in the AHL. I wonder if hes actually ready to do it. Im not that high on him but obviously hopes he can prove me wrong

 

[ViD]

We’re #5 in goalie prospect ranking ? I guess we value Tarasov much less than the rest of the league

 

[stevo61]

We’re #5 in goalie prospect ranking ? I guess we value Tarasov much less than the rest of the league

Or hes a huge believer in Ivanov who puts up big numbers everywhere he plays

 

[CBJx614]

I never even considered the fact DBB is able to play in the AHL. I wonder if hes actually ready to do it. Im not that high on him but obviously hopes he can prove me wrong

He'll get the luxury that Foudy never really had

 

[majormajor]

Or hes a huge believer in Ivanov who puts up big numbers everywhere he plays

It's probably just a save percentage counter, you can bet that someone like Bader has never seen him (or most of our prospects).

I have no idea why Rysavy isn't signed.

 

[Doggy]

He'll get the luxury that Foudy never really had

Can you be more specific because I’m unsure what you’re suggesting. The pandemic and his injury issues certainly impacted his development roadmap but I don’t think management played the hand he was dealt particularly poorly based on the realities of his circumstances.

 

[CBJx614]

Can you be more specific because I’m unsure what you’re suggesting. The pandemic and his injury issues certainly impacted his development roadmap but I don’t think management played the hand he was dealt particularly poorly based on the realities of his circumstances.

Foudy never really go the opportunity to develop properly in the AHL, he has one real season in the AHL which was plagued by injuries. He came straight into the NHL after being drafted. And then during the covid season he was stuck on the backup squad that wasn't in the AHL but didn't really play any NHL games.

LDBB will be buried in the minors and wont get called up until he forces his way onto the roster.

 

[Doggy]

Foudy never really go the opportunity to develop properly in the AHL, he has one real season in the AHL which was plagued by injuries. He came straight into the NHL after being drafted. And then during the covid season he was stuck on the backup squad that wasn't in the AHL but didn't really play any NHL games.

LDBB will be buried in the minors and wont get called up until he forces his way onto the roster.

OK, but you are not necessarily blaming the CBJ for this...just unfortunate circumstances. I have questioned the way the team has developed numerous prospects but Foudy is not one of them.

 

[thebus88]

Foudy is a much better and more SKILLED player than many give him credit for. Better than Robinson, who while many have somewhat cooled on recently, people have been VERY high on at times before.

I would have him on the CBJ roster and playing center over other guys currently being penciled in.

 

[CBJx614]

OK, but you are not necessarily blaming the CBJ for this...just unfortunate circumstances. I have questioned the way the team has developed numerous prospects but Foudy is not one of them.

Foudys dev is definitely questionable. He should have been getting top line minutes in the AHL for the last 3 seasons. It's partially unfortunate circumstances but also partially the FOs fault. They could have signed fillers to play that role of "tweener" and let Foudy get big minutes instead of essentially just practicing for a full season.

Since 2020 he's played a grand total of 131 games over 3 seasons for a developing kid is asking for struggles. IIRC only one of those seasons were hampered by injuries.

He most certainly should have been in the AHL instead of struggling in the NHL last season.

 

[Doggy]

Foudys dev is definitely questionable. He should have been getting top line minutes in the AHL for the last 3 seasons. It's partially unfortunate circumstances but also partially the FOs fault. They could have signed fillers to play that role of "tweener" and let Foudy get big minutes instead of essentially just practicing for a full season.

Since 2020 he's played a grand total of 131 games over 3 seasons for a developing kid is asking for struggles. IIRC only one of those seasons were hampered by injuries.

He most certainly should have been in the AHL instead of struggling in the NHL last season.

Circumstances: I think he lost major parts of two seasons to injury and the pandemic. CBJ couldn't help that. Seeing how his ELC was basically a two year deal since they blew the first year on a ten playoff game audition his rookie year

Circumstances: As for last year, sure we would have all liked to see him developing in the AHL but he was no longer on an ELC and the team didn't want to risk losing him to waivers. Again, not really the team's fault. I don't know if another team would have grabbed him off waivers but if he had started the year in Cleveland, played really well, been called up and someone grabbed him fans would have been all pissed that we lost him to waivers when it could have been avoided.

*This is where bringing a guy in at the very end of the season and blowing a year off their ELC hurt the club (2019). If Foudy's ELC slides to 2020 (I don't know if an ELC can slide two years) then he is still on his ELC last year and could have been sent down. But again, not even sure you can do that.

 

[Monstershockey]

Foudy never really go the opportunity to develop properly in the AHL, he has one real season in the AHL which was plagued by injuries. He came straight into the NHL after being drafted. And then during the covid season he was stuck on the backup squad that wasn't in the AHL but didn't really play any NHL games.

LDBB will be buried in the minors and wont get called up until he forces his way onto the roster.

He played 24 games for CBJ and 12 in CLE during the covid year. A little less than half the total games for each team. The next year he played 20+ games in CLE and was doing well, then missed the rest of the season due to injury. He's been in CBJ since. He was good in the AHL, and looked ok at the end of last year. Probably needs to be more consistant at the NHL level to stick around.

 

[majormajor]

Circumstances: I think he lost major parts of two seasons to injury and the pandemic. CBJ couldn't help that. Seeing how his ELC was basically a two year deal since they blew the first year on a ten playoff game audition his rookie year

Circumstances: As for last year, sure we would have all liked to see him developing in the AHL but he was no longer on an ELC and the team didn't want to risk losing him to waivers. Again, not really the team's fault. I don't know if another team would have grabbed him off waivers but if he had started the year in Cleveland, played really well, been called up and someone grabbed him fans would have been all pissed that we lost him to waivers when it could have been avoided.

*This is where bringing a guy in at the very end of the season and blowing a year off their ELC hurt the club (2019). If Foudy's ELC slides to 2020 (I don't know if an ELC can slide two years) then he is still on his ELC last year and could have been sent down. But again, not even sure you can do that.

FYI the ELC and the waiver exemption timetable are different. Too lazy to look up whether the waiver exemption was affected by the 2020 playoff callup.

They could have signed fillers to play that role of "tweener" and let Foudy get big minutes instead of essentially just practicing for a full season.

He was injured not practicing for the bulk of that time.

 

[Doggy]

FYI the ELC and the waiver exemption timetable are different. Too lazy to look up whether the waiver exemption was affected by the 2020 playoff callup.



He was injured not practicing for the bulk of that time.

I did not know that, interesting. That said, I know all last season it was mentioned many many times that Foudy was not exempt from waivers. I suppose everyone could have gotten their info from one person who had it wrong but that was what I heard all year. Foudy made the NHL club simply because he could not go down without being subjected to waivers.

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CapFriendly says Foudy's Waiver Age (based on his draft age/when he signed his ELC) was 18. The rule says if he plays 11+ NHL games in any season he is no longer waiver exempt after four years. In 2020 he played 24 games for the CBJ. If I am reading that correctly, his waiver exempt ages would have been 18, 19, 20 & 21. He turned 22 in Feb 2022 which meant he was not waiver eligible in the 2022-2023 season.