Value of: Carter Hart to Habs

[JRichard]

I think the Habs can definitely afford at this stage to leverage draft and/or prospects capital on a U25G, and Hart seems like a good buy low candidate for them.

Considering the Flyers don’t have their own 2nd and 3rd round picks this summer, nor their 2nd round pick in 2024, and that Ersson shows a lot of promise, would Philadelphia consider: Hart vs Allen + MTL’s 2023 (high) 2nd + COL’s 2024 2nd as a discussion starter?

Hart a buy low candidate? Why?
His play this season is exactly the same as his career numbers: .906

you buy low on bad contracts, on players on a bad year, not on a 24 yrs old goalie playing his highest number of games (52 as of today)

Oddly enough, many Flyers are having their best-ever year: Konecny 27 goals in 52 games, Tippett (Giroux) 21 goals, Hayes 50+ pts, Frost 14 g, Laughton 17g.

Buy low on Flyers would be Provorov.

 

[Scintillating10]

I'd rather trade for Askarov than Hart. Would Nashville switch first with Montreal giving up Askarov? Preds get 5th pick in draft, Michkov? We get 17th, Honzek

 

[1865]

If you don’t want to overpay for Hart you won’t get him.

 

[dirtydanglez]

habs fans thought an over the hill price was worth multiple 1sts but think hart is worth scraps.

 

[ole ole]

If you don’t want to overpay for Hart you won’t get him.

Now this i agree with. And no i don't want to overpay for Hart.

 

[Soundgarden]

I'd rather trade for Askarov than Hart. Would Nashville switch first with Montreal giving up Askarov? Preds get 5th pick in draft, Michkov? We get 17th, Honzek

Maybe pre lottery, but if we're already dealing an elite prospect I can't see us adding a 1st too.

 

[1865]

Now this i agree with. And no i don't want to overpay for Hart.

That's fine. I understand looking purely at the stats sheet isn't the best picture for Hart. You won't see the work he puts in in vain behind this am-dram defence corps. I'm 100% confident that when this rebuild finally bears fruit that if Hart is still here he'll win a Vezina. He just can't do it on his own and i totally get others not paying what it would take to get him.

 

[ole ole]

Maybe pre lottery, but if we're already dealing an elite prospect I can't see us adding a 1st too.

You wouldn't trade Askarov and the 17th for Michkov as it was proposed?
I can understand if it's too much.
I'm just trying to gauge Michkov's value. He was head to head with Bedard till things out of his control happened.
Habs are sitting with that 5th and i don't think he'll get to us.
What's Michkov worth?

 

[ole ole]

That's fine. I understand looking purely at the stats sheet isn't the best picture for Hart. You won't see the work he puts in in vain behind this am-dram defence corps. I'm 100% confident that when this rebuild finally bears fruit that if Hart is still here he'll win a Vezina. He just can't do it on his own and i totally get others not paying what it would take to get him.

Wish nothing but the best for Hart. I'll say it again. Not willing to OVERPAY which you said it would take.

 

[Soundgarden]

You wouldn't trade Askarov and the 17th for Michkov as it was proposed?
I can understand if it's too much.
I'm just trying to gauge Michkov's value. He was head to head with Bedard till things out of his control happened.
Habs are sitting with that 5th and i don't think he'll get to us.
What's Michkov worth?

Askarov is an elite prospect as well, adding a early-mid first on top of him is a lot, it might be worth it to get Michkov, but is Michkov going to be there at 4-5?

 

[JRichard]

Stock up, nice 29 saves SO. I guess its only Detroit. The guy is streaky. Started season hot, 7 games over .930 his first 8 games, 6 wins 2 ot losses first 8.

 

[Michoulicious]

I'm a big fan of Hart, especially now that he's preventing the Flyers of getting a better draft position.

 

[JRichard]

I'm a big fan of Hart, especially now that he's preventing the Flyers of getting a better draft position.

Lottery has taken place?

 

[GhostfaceWu]

Not interested as a Hab fan especially at the ridiculous ask that will follow shortly.

Lol so kind of like habs fans when there would be proposals for price.

 

[ole ole]

Lol so kind of like habs fans when there would be proposals for price.

Big difference between Price and Hart.

 

[Michoulicious]

Lottery has taken place?

No, but every Flyers win gets them higher in the standings, reducing their lottery odds and making their pick lower in the likely event they don't win the lottery.

But we both know that you already know that.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

Big difference between Price and Hart.

I'm not talking about post vezina price habs fans were exactly the same as soon as he became a starter.

 

[flyerslducks]

Stock up, nice 29 saves SO. I guess its only Detroit. The guy is streaky. Started season hot, 7 games over .930 his first 8 games, 6 wins 2 ot losses first 8.

Hard to be consistent on a shit team….

 

[BlueTacos]

Jordan binnington

 

[Scintillating10]

Maybe pre lottery, but if we're already dealing an elite prospect I can't see us adding a 1st too.

Askarov is 3 years older and went much later than 5th. Him for 5th not even trade. Your pick is 16th right now. I think it is fair trade. Only reason we doing it is there's a player slated to go late first we high on.

 

[Soundgarden]

Askarov is 3 years older and went much later than 5th. Him for 5th not even trade. Your pick is 16th right now. I think it is fair trade. Only reason we doing it is there's a player slated to go late first we high on.

Askarov went higher because he's a goalie, he's also one of the most hyped goalies since Price and he's increased his value since being drafted.

 

[Scintillating10]

Askarov went higher because he's a goalie, he's also one of the most hyped goalies since Price and he's increased his value since being drafted.

No, sounds you to high on him. I can't do that trade.

If Michkov there at 5, would you interested trading up for him? Be good with Askarov.

 

[Philadelphia Ducks]

He's really the only guy I wouldn't trade. I mean it only took Philly 4 decades to find a goalie, why trade him?

That's not fair, we found Bobrovski, we just decided to trade him so we could sign Bryz

 

[DinosaurBones]

I do not see this being a thing.
Need to give up more than Hart might be worth to get him at this point in his career/where Philly is team wise.
Habs wont want to give the asking price. I could see a team closer to the end of the rebuild snagging him (Ottawa). Timing wise from both teams is a couple years off of being a good trade partner. Close. Just a little off, in my opinion of course.

 

[CanuckistanFlyerfan]

That's not fair, we found Bobrovski, we just decided to trade him so we could sign Bryz

Point taken.

Ok, it only took them 4 decades to find a goalie and not give him away so they could sign a lunatic and buy him out and still be paying him a decade later!

Better?