Value of: Carter Hart to Habs

[StewieP19]

they might consider trading the one they plucked out of waivers…

Harris is the name that starts to emerge: does nothing really bad or really good.
Most of their young d are untouchables: Guhle, Barron (because rd), Xhekaj (he fights) and Hutson (already better than Makar).
Cant play too many young guys on d. Especially when veterans are average at best: matheson, Savard, Edmunson. And goalies are Allen and Montambeault…

Hutson look pretty good but before comparing him to Makar. I will wait to see him in NHL.
Same thing with Bedard vs Mcdavid.

For Montréal if I was GM I will wait until the end of the next season to process trade to acquire a Pretty good goalie.
It give times to see How Barron, Guhle, Mailloux Xhekaj ect play next year and have a better picture of each players real potentiel they got

I might be weird but my guy to trade is Guhle because he's the guy with the more value right now and he got injured in 2021-2022 in junior and got injured 2 times this year. He seem to be fragile. I know Habs fans will not like me on this one but a lot of GM works with Buy low sell high. Guhle can be a stud a guy very solid in defense and he will put max 50 pts by season only if he can play a full year.
Barron have not a high value so keep it
Xhekaj have everything to become one of the better # 5 or 6 def keep it
Hutson with numbers he puts in NCAA keep it
All veteran can't give you Hart so keep it
Mailloux Can be very good i will wait to see how good he can be in Montréal.
Struble not have enough value

 

[Gabrielor]

Sabres would have interest in Hart.

 

[Mrfenn92]

they might consider trading the one they plucked out of waivers…

Harris is the name that starts to emerge: does nothing really bad or really good.
Most of their young d are untouchables: Guhle, Barron (because rd), Xhekaj (he fights) and Hutson (already better than Makar).
Cant play too many young guys on d. Especially when veterans are average at best: matheson, Savard, Edmunson. And goalies are Allen and Montambeault…

Hutson is not better then makar

 

[Jerkbait]

Florida Panther 2023 first
Jake Allen

And what else ???

 

[Craft Beer Lover]

Hutson look pretty good but before comparing him to Makar. I will wait to see him in NHL.
Same thing with Bedard vs Mcdavid.

For Montréal if I was GM I will wait until the end of the next season to process trade to acquire a Pretty good goalie.
It give times to see How Barron, Guhle, Mailloux Xhekaj ect play next year and have a better picture of each players real potentiel they got

I might be weird but my guy to trade is Guhle because he's the guy with the more value right now and he got injured in 2021-2022 in junior and got injured 2 times this year. He seem to be fragile. I know Habs fans will not like me on this one but a lot of GM works with Buy low sell high. Guhle can be a stud a guy very solid in defense and he will put max 50 pts by season only if he can play a full year.
Barron have not a high value so keep it
Xhekaj have everything to become one of the better # 5 or 6 def keep it
Hutson with numbers he puts in NCAA keep it
All veteran can't give you Hart so keep it
Mailloux Can be very good i will wait to see how good he can be in Montréal.
Struble not have enough value

Guhle will never score 50 points in the NHL.

 

[SJinNewJersey]

they might consider trading the one they plucked out of waivers…

Harris is the name that starts to emerge: does nothing really bad or really good.
Most of their young d are untouchables: Guhle, Barron (because rd), Xhekaj (he fights) and Hutson (already better than Makar).
Cant play too many young guys on d. Especially when veterans are average at best: matheson, Savard, Edmunson. And goalies are Allen and Montambeault…

 

[ole ole]

While I don't disagree with your overall take I have to question this when Hab fans defend Edmundson. Edmundson has had 2 bad seasons and we hear it is because he on a bad team and yet you don't consider this with Hart? Lets use the same measuring stick.

ya and the person i responding to is using the same reasoning. Lets all use the same measuring stick.

 

[JRichard]

Hutson is not better then makar

Guess a few here cant take sarcasm. Reread first comment about maybe considering trading a waiver guy…

 

[Mrfenn92]

Guess a few here cant take sarcasm. Reread first comment about maybe considering trading a waiver guy…

Guess that post was sarcasm

 

[junyab]

Hutson is not better then makar

No one thinks he is. It was a sarcastic remark to point out how high Habs fans view Hutson, but it's no where near Makar, that a ridiculous notion.

 

[Mrfenn92]

No one thinks he is. It was a sarcastic remark to point out how high Habs fans view Hutson, but it's no where near Makar, that a ridiculous notion.

Understood

 

[captainpaxil]

Sabres would have interest in Hart.

I said earlier Savoie and 24 first

 

[Gabrielor]

I said earlier Savoie and 24 first

You're out of your mind.

If that's the price, we probably block the number.

 

[FlyguyOX]

I said earlier Savoie and 24 first

That's a fair offer. You can't have all your 1st round picks playing in the top 6 so you're going to have to cash in eventually.

I might prefer Kulich to Savoie but flyers need to take swings.

 

[Gabrielor]

That's a fair offer. You can't have all your 1st round picks playing in the top 6 so you're going to have to cash in eventually.

I might prefer Kulich to Savoie but flyers need to take swings.

I think our 2024 1st is a high ask, but I'd probably concede to it.

One of our two best prospects on top of that, is no where near fair. It's a crazy overpay.

 

[Chainshot]

I said earlier Savoie and 24 first

That's a powerful ask. Buffalo would decline.

 

[FlyguyOX]

I think our 2024 1st is a high ask, but I'd probably concede to it.

One of our two best prospects on top of that, is no where near fair. It's a crazy overpay.

You just saw what mid 1sts return at the TDL, right?

 

[Gabrielor]

You just saw what mid 1sts return at the TDL, right?

You saw Timo Meier and Jacob Chychrun return top tier prospects right?

Best that went was probably Raty. Solid prospect, but not on a level of Savoie.

 

[Chainshot]

You just saw what mid 1sts return at the TDL, right?

You see that pricing at the deadline is never the level of pricing in the off-season right?

 

[FlyguyOX]

You see that pricing at the deadline is never the level of pricing in the off-season right?

Oh yeah because Romanov who went for 13th overall and Ristolainen who went for 14th and a 2nd are better players than Hart lol.

 

[CDN24]

Goalie trades are interesting and the team trading the goalie always seems to get an underwhelming return. I like Hart and I think he is a player you would want to overpay for it rarely happens. Goalies are so inconsistent, that teams rather recycle an avg goalie hoping to find lightening in a bottle as it happens just as often or more often than finding a goalie who is consistently good.

Even the big big goalie trades had underwhelming returns

Roy plus Mike Keane for Rucinsky Kovalenko and young former 1st rd pick Jocelyn Thibault is kind of underwhelming for a guy who was arguably the best goalie of his era- top 3 all time

Hasek from Buffalo to det for Beauregard and a 1st rd pick

Halak coming off his great 2010 playoff run to semis returned Lars Eller (former 1st round pick)

Louongo (fla to Vancouver) after 5 years in FLA (pretty much at same stage of career as Hart today) returned an aging Todd Bertuzzi, Bryan Allen and Alex Auld

Not sure what someone will pay but expect one great piece (1st rd pick or equivalent) plus maybe a servicable goalie back, maybe a b prospect. It won't be a boatload.

 

[Chainshot]

Oh yeah because Romanov who went for 13th overall and Ristolainen who went for 14th and a 2nd are better players than Hart lol.

Fletcher being a dumbass has impact on this how?

 

[jfhabs]

Goalie trades are interesting and the team trading the goalie always seems to get an underwhelming return. I like Hart and I think he is a player you would want to overpay for it rarely happens. Goalies are so inconsistent, that teams rather recycle an avg goalie hoping to find lightening in a bottle as it happens just as often or more often than finding a goalie who is consistently good.

Even the big big goalie trades had underwhelming returns

Roy plus Mike Keane for Rucinsky Kovalenko and young former 1st rd pick Jocelyn Thibault is kind of underwhelming for a guy who was arguably the best goalie of his era- top 3 all time

Hasek from Buffalo to det for Beauregard and a 1st rd pick

Halak coming off his great 2010 playoff run to semis returned Lars Eller (former 1st round pick)

Louongo (fla to Vancouver) after 5 years in FLA (pretty much at same stage of career as Hart today) returned an aging Todd Bertuzzi, Bryan Allen and Alex Auld

Not sure what someone will pay but expect one great piece (1st rd pick or equivalent) plus maybe a servicable goalie back, maybe a b prospect. It won't be a boatload.

At the time Eller was considered a very good asset, but yes it's true in general. The issue is almost never see goalies of Hart caliber being traded. Either 1B goalies, older goalies, expensive goalies, etc.

 

[CDN24]

At the time Eller was considered a very good asset, but yes it's true in general. The issue is almost never see goalies of Hart caliber being traded. Either 1B goalies, older goalies, expensive goalies, etc.

yeah, I think the lou to Vancouver is the closest - 5 yrs into his career. 6 I guess he played a part of a season on the Island before they chose DiPietro over him. Great numbers but on a losing team.

If they move him I suspect its a 1st, prospect and a established 1b type goalie type return

 

[captainpaxil]

You're out of your mind.

If that's the price, we probably block the number.

He's a premier young player at a position that's near impossible to acquire. He's also under contract and control for a few more years. If you want to know how fair it is you'd scoff at that offer for dahling and I wouldn't trade them even up