Confirmed with Link: Carter Hart Officially Charged With One Count Of Sexual Assault (Per His Lawyers); Non-roster, salary cap info in OP

[mr figgles]

The Flames framing it as Dube stepping away to focus on his “mental health” is pretty sleazy.

It‘s possible they didn’t get word of the charges, and that was the reason Dube gave them when he found out.

 

[dragonoffrost]

Yeah. It would be fairly disastrous if something happens like three of the Leave Players being involved while the other two Assumed are not, but the two unrelated coincidences get slammed as being in it for weeks anyway because of media speculation. We just saw the fallout for Hayes from a local podcast. Would be pretty poor form to subject someone to that level of heat and be wrong. The PD will tell us in time. Surely we can wait.

Maybe we can talk about Utah! I hear they have salt.

You're just salty

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I tread carefully with specific speculation but my understanding is that this is consistent with the length of time they would be expected to comply.

The NHL All-Star Game being that weekend in Toronto is pretty LOL for optics.

 

[Curufinwe]

I eat kiwis with the skin on

That's either cannibalism, or eating an endangered species of bird.

The Kiwi

 

[Ghosts Beer]

My understanding is that the current investigation is the first investigation, and that the settlement was a civil case with no criminal investigation carried out.

No. The initial police investigation was closed in February 2019.

A second police investigation opened in July 2022.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

On the record yes... But without the media push this would have never been reopened. London Police ( at least at the time ) clearly failed a this victim.

I don’t know. I don’t think anything is “clear.” And if it is, we haven’t been made aware of it yet.

 

[Rebels57]

Those details don’t matter. Only the resulting devastation.

I think you missed the context of my comment in the conversation we were having at the time. I was simply commenting that one situation is A LOT LESS COMMON, not that it is any better or worse for the victims.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Yeah. It would be fairly disastrous if something happens like three of the Leave Players being involved while the other two Assumed are not, but the two unrelated coincidences get slammed as being in it for weeks anyway because of media speculation. We just saw the fallout for Hayes from a local podcast. Would be pretty poor form to subject someone to that level of heat and be wrong. The PD will tell us in time. Surely we can wait.

Maybe we can talk about Utah! I hear they have salt.

Ryan Smith asked for a team

Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

 

[Jettany]

Yeah. It would be fairly disastrous if something happens like three of the Leave Players being involved while the other two Assumed are not, but the two unrelated coincidences get slammed as being in it for weeks anyway because of media speculation. We just saw the fallout for Hayes from a local podcast. Would be pretty poor form to subject someone to that level of heat and be wrong. The PD will tell us in time. Surely we can wait.

Maybe we can talk about Utah! I hear they have salt.

And an NHL hockey team coming to town!

 

[Audible Velvet]

I think you missed the context of my comment in the conversation we were having at the time. I was simply commenting that one situation is A LOT LESS COMMON, not that it is any better or worse for the victims.

I gotcha. Thanks for the follow up.

 

[iceman42]

The Flames framing it as Dube stepping away to focus on his “mental health” is pretty sleazy.

They do have to be careful speculating or releasing details too early as it can cause serious legal issues, a few large news organizations have found that out in recent years. It's best to play dumb and wait for the official word.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Ah I’ll actually give the Flyers credit here even if they didn’t go first but their statement is much better than Calgary’s by just calling it “personal reasons” & they granted that request.

 

[DAVIDE1333]

I got a Richards jersey for Xmas… traded months later

I bought a signed Ghost jersey… traded

I bought a signed Giroux jersey… traded

After the 2017-2018 season I was gifted a bundle of a singed Provorov mini-helmet, signed Hart mini-helmet, and signed Patrick puck…

I’m just not allowed to have nice things.

Those aren’t people. Those are dogs.

Quick, get a Deslaurier, Risto, and Atkinson jersey.

 

[deadhead]

This is sadly very true and if one is single and in the dating world, it is prudent to take this into consideration when attempting to form an intimate/romantic relationship with a woman. In my younger years I had a blind spot but in my later years came to understand how many women have experienced sexual abuse in some form in their lifetimes. Some have been open and honest with me....others I suspect they harbored trauma and they usually project it in damaging ways....intimacy issues, bipolarism, etc. It really sucks..

I heard my share of horror stories from women I dated, a girl raped by her boyfriend in her small town where his father was chief of police, a women abused by her father at 13, and so on. I think rape and assault are less common now b/c they're more likely to be reported and prosecuted, forty years ago most women just accepted that police and prosecutors wouldn't pursue their case unless it was a slam dunk (injuries, witnesses, semen, etc.). And they'd have to run the courtroom gauntlet of having their "virtue" questioned, their taste in clothes, etc. Slut shaming was a common tactic of defense lawyers.

Same with child abuse, it probably happened a lot more often when a kid couldn't confide in anyone, including his Priest. The assumption was you're making this up, especially in a single paycheck household where a mother faced poverty if she accepted her child's account.

 

[BiggE]

Until someone presents hard evidence to the contrary, I’m just gonna blame Kevin Hayes.

 

[BernieParent]

Theyve had promising young players get cancer, retire early for a migraine disorder, get detained by an authoritarian regime, and one refuse to play here. Might aswell add this to the list.

You forgot the one who decided he would rather go back to Europe.

 

[Sombastate]

If anything good, aside from justice, comes of this...

Those cries for Bettman "retiring" are gonna be LOUD. Blackhawks, Pride Night, Ottawa Sale, Arizona, now this? Oh boy.

 

[Beef Invictus]

If anything good, aside from justice, comes of this...

Those cries for Bettman "retiring" are gonna be LOUD. Blackhawks, Pride Night, Ottawa Sale, Arizona, now this? Oh boy.

But aren't you excited for the Utah Salty Boyz?

 

[freakydallas13]

No. The initial police investigation was closed in February 2019.

A second police investigation opened in July 2022.

For police to re-open a case 3 years later after closing it with no charges filed, only to then charge 5 people with sexual assault seems pretty damning.

They wouldn't reopen the case and lay criminal charges for no reason, new damning evidence must have been brought forward.

 

[BernieParent]

The Utah news is barely going to register.

The NHL is run by mor(m)ons.

 

[FromOyVey2Matvei]

We finally found out where that drive into deep left field by Castellanos landed… IT WAS UTAH!!!

 

[BritainStix]

Dube has been removed from the Calgary Website and roster.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Until someone presents hard evidence to the contrary, I’m just gonna blame Kevin Hayes.

 

[BritainStix]

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This deserves a day ban.

 

[BernieParent]

It is possible that people who were found innocent are not actually innocent. Same goes for being found guilty.

The point hinges on the court's ability to prove guilt. Their failure to do so is not the same as being innocent.