Confirmed with Link: Carter Hart Officially Charged With One Count Of Sexual Assault (Per His Lawyers); Non-roster, salary cap info in OP

[LegionOfDoom91]

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So yeah I guess this could a sixth player who wasn’t charged but will probably have to navigate the PR aspects of this case.

This guy probably covered both sides of people who could be angry at what he did. One that feel like he didn’t do enough in the moment & the other side that will look at him as an untrustworthy for kind of diming out his teammates in the investigation.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

The terrible moderators here are in the pocket of Big Peach. I always knew it.

we dont kink shame here..

 

[deadhead]

Where they Georgia peaches?

 

[landsbergfan]

we dont kink shame here..

I was going to say this about watching for 10 minutes

 

[BritainStix]

The other possible players, has anyone else been granted leave of absence from their clubs?

Are there any players not currently playing professional hockey, so we wouldn't really know if they had been summoned?

Just curious if the 5 professionals are definitely the 5 that are being charged, or if it's possible some of them are the extra 3 players who were in the room.

 

[Beef Invictus]

He buys peaches not to eat, but to lick

I eat kiwis with the skin on

 

[dragonoffrost]

The apple discussion will get heated very quickly.

You are just cobbling together an arguement

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

The other possible players, has anyone else been granted leave of absence from their clubs?

Are there any players not currently playing professional hockey, so we wouldn't really know if they had been summoned?

Just curious if the 5 professionals are definitely the 5 that are being charged, or if it's possible some of them are the extra 3 players who were in the room.

Dillon Dube was granted a leave of absence earlier this week, Carter Hart yesterday, Alex Formenton, Cal Foote, and Michael McLeod today.

So we're at five players officially being granted a leave of absence who were on the 2018 WJC team.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

The other possible players, has anyone else been granted leave of absence from their clubs?

Are there any players not currently playing professional hockey, so we wouldn't really know if they had been summoned?

Just curious if the 5 professionals are definitely the 5 that are being charged, or if it's possible some of them are the extra 3 players who were in the room.

Many believe that the other possible players are non World Junior team CHLers. They could be random members of the London Knights for example.

 

[BritainStix]

Dillon Dube was granted a leave of absence earlier this week, Carter Hart yesterday, Alex Formenton, Cal Foote, and Michael McLeod today.

So we're at 5 players officially being granted a leave of absence who were on the 2018 WJC teams.

Yes, I get that, but I wonder if they are bringing in other players for questioning, statements, clarifications etc that we just don't know about. Or can we confirm that the 5 are most definitely the 5. I'm curious as to why Hart made a statement saying he was innocent years ago, whereas the others did not.

I don't know, I'm just holding out for a shred of hope that one of my favourite players isn't a rapist.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Yes, I get that, but I wonder if they are bringing in other players for questioning, statements, clarifications etc that we just don't know about.

I don't know, I'm just holding out for a shred of hope that one of my favourite players isn't a rapist.

That process has likely already happened. There's no more questioning or statements needed with the London police having asked for these five members of the team to surrender themselves on charges of sexual assault.

There's still a chance here that it's just a coincidence but that's a bit farfetched sadly at this point.

Edit: I see your edit. The statement that Hart's representatives put out last year or whenever it was always struck me as just legal bullshit that didn't actually mean anything with regards to guilt. It was hollow and put absolutely no worries to rest about his possible involvement.

 

[landsbergfan]

Wonder if the five accused are out of the league even if the charges are dropped.

They’ll be playing for the Oilers within 2 calendar years

 

[Rebels57]

Yes, I get that, but I wonder if they are bringing in other players for questioning, statements, clarifications etc that we just don't know about. Or can we confirm that the 5 are most definitely the 5. I'm curious as to why Hart made a statement saying he was innocent years ago, whereas the others did not.

I don't know, I'm just holding out for a shred of hope that one of my favourite players isn't a rapist.

Hart didn't make a statement. A Toronto lawyer representing a slew of players mentioned he wasn't guilty of any wrongdoing. As you know, a statement from a lawyer isn't worth shit.

 

[freakydallas13]

That process has likely already happened. There's no more questioning or statements needed with the London police having asked for these five members of the team to surrender themselves on charges of sexual assault.

There's still a chance here that it's just a coincidence but that's a bit farfetched sadly at this point.

Yeah, asking people to surrender themselves on sexual assault charges is pretty clear cut in terms of perceived involvement. The police are looking for the 5 people they think are criminals.

 

[landsbergfan]

I eat kiwis with the skin on

Are we talking about fruit still?

 

[freakydallas13]

Hart didn't make a statement. A Toronto lawyer representing a slew of players mentioned he wasn't guilty of any wrongdoing. As you know, a statement from a lawyer isn't worth shit.

IIRC, Hart's statement was more ambiguous compared to some from other players on the team. Others' specifically denied any involvement outright, and Carter's was more like "my client did nothing wrong"

I seem to remember that being posted on this board and people (myself included) getting nervous about the ambiguity.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

As a reminder this was Wasserman Hockey's response to their client's that were tied to the situation which was presented through a lawyer (July of '22):

“We act for one of the players referenced in your email inquiry and have consulted with counsel for the other players you reference. All of Global News’ questions will be asked and answered during the pending NHL investigation. That said, none of the players you reference engaged in any wrongdoing, all of the players cooperated fully with the independent London Police Service investigation in 2018, and all players were then cleared of any wrongdoing,” Fenton wrote.

It was a completely hollow statement knowing that the investigation in 2018 was filled with issues.

Wasserman represented Jake Bean, Colton Point, Kale Clague, Jordan Kyrou, Taylor Raddysh, and Carter Hart.

 

[dragonoffrost]

Are we talking about fruit still?

Well it's better than beating dead horses?

 

[tinycars]

I shouldn't post here again since I have been warned but hopefully I am allowed to ask this carefully worded question:

Is there a definitive point in time when we will know who was involved in the alleged incident or do they not publicly release the names of the people involved in this type of situation?

 

[dragonoffrost]

I shouldn't post here again since I have been warned but hopefully I am allowed to ask this carefully worded question:

Is there a definitive point in time when we will know who was involved in the alleged incident or do they not publicly release the names of the people involved in this type of situation?

You will now when the court case happens....

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I shouldn't post here again since I have been warned but hopefully I am allowed to ask this carefully worded question:

Is there a definitive point in time when we will know who was involved in the alleged incident or do they not publicly release the names of the people involved in this type of situation?

Criminal charges in Canada are public information so yes we will know their names.

 

[Matty Sundin]

Wonder if the five accused are out of the league even if the charges are dropped.

Closes thing like this is a scandal in Europe with Huselius, Tallinder, Lilia during the lockout year in 2005. Police dropped investigation but a special prosecutor reopened it but still no charges were filed due to lack of evidence. It didn’t effect their NHL career but no charges were ever filed, it happened during a time when social media wasn’t big and different continent and wasn’t exactly well known.

Jake Virtanen is other one that was charged and faced a trial and still got a try out. Who really knows though, I imagine this stigma is gonna follow whoever these 5 players are no matter what happens.

 

[landsbergfan]

That process has likely already happened. There's no more questioning or statements needed with the London police having asked for these five members of the team to surrender themselves on charges of sexual assault.

There's still a chance here that it's just a coincidence but that's a bit farfetched sadly at this point.

Edit: I see your edit. The statement that Hart's representatives put out last year or whenever it was always struck me as just legal bullshit that didn't actually mean anything with regards to guilt. It was hollow and put absolutely no worries to rest about his possible involvement.

I’m excited to see which expansion location gets announced once the actual charges are dropped

 

[Jettany]

Yes, I get that, but I wonder if they are bringing in other players for questioning, statements, clarifications etc that we just don't know about. Or can we confirm that the 5 are most definitely the 5. I'm curious as to why Hart made a statement saying he was innocent years ago, whereas the others did not.

I don't know, I'm just holding out for a shred of hope that one of my favourite players isn't a rapist.

I never saw his quote about not being involved.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

I bought 2 junior jerseys shortly after being drafted by the Flyers. Wheat Kings Provorov and Silvertips Hart.

One turned out to be a homophobe and the other turned out to be a rapist.

Which junior jersey should I buy next?

Obv Torts bobblehead.