Contract Termination: [CAR] F Evgeny Kuznetsov and the Hurricanes mutually terminate contract

[LeafalCrusader]

Bye bye Birdboy

 

[um]

Farewell to a guy who deserved the Conn Smyth

he wishes.

 

[VaCaps Fan]

Talent of a champion…

 

[QuebeCaniac]

the signing bonus pmt however its divided between wsh / car might be chump change to Ted L but not so much for Dundon

Why do people think Dundon is broke?

He bought a first round pick (became Jarvis) for 3M$ in real cash (Marleau's buyout). He doesn't care about 1M$, all he cares about is winning

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Why do people think Dundon is broke?

He bought a first round pick (became Jarvis) for 3M$ in real cash (Marleau's buyout). He doesn't care about 1M$, all he cares about is winning

And he spends to cap every year.

Also, he just wrote a bunch a checks on July 1st (presumably) for middle of the lineup and lower players. $1.5 mil for Carrier, $1 mil for Gostisbehere, $1 mil for Walker and $2.75 mil for Chatfield.

 

[Frenchy]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1813602057439580660

Can he bring Valeri Nichushkin with him back to Russia ?

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Lucky break for the Canes if true.

Was a headscratcher of an acquisition to being with. That guy plays the exact opposite of what that group demands and expects from it's players.

Canes hoping for a resurgence out of WASH and a change of scenery. Definitely worth the risk from an asset perpective, and with the contract termination there don't have any long term negative ramifications.

And would say - I respect Kuz leaving some money on the table to do what's going to make him happy. Would rather have a guy do this than pout and collect his NHL contract.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Can other teams sign this diamond in the rough?

 

[WarriorofTime]

Awesome NHL career. Go enjoy the remainder of the years in the KHL, and being in what is hopefully a more comfortable and supportive environment for the addictions he's battled.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Washington might become a decent team if PLD and Wilson rebound and they can add someone with the freed up money. Sounds like they probably need a goalie.

They already traded for former VGK goalie Logan Thompson, who should start the season as their 1B behind Lindgren.

 

[seanlinden]

Here's a stupid question...

What's to stop any team from doing this with a high-bonus, low-salary player?

Take John Tavares for example, could both the LEafs and he agree to mutually terminate the deal?

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Here's a stupid question...

What's to stop any team from doing this with a high-bonus, low-salary player?

Take John Tavares for example, could both the LEafs and he agree to mutually terminate the deal?

This player wanted to go back to Russia and gave up 6 million dollars to do so. Carolina is not forcing him out. They had enough cap space to sign Jarvis/Necas/Drury with Kuznetsov on the books. What might change, however, is that the Jarvis extension may now be 8 years instead of 2-3.

 

[trick9]

Anyone who followed him saw his soul leave the NHL years ago.

 

[DaveG]

bit sad to see him go honestly, very good player when motivated. Gotta do what's right by you sometimes though.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Here's a stupid question...

What's to stop any team from doing this with a high-bonus, low-salary player?

Take John Tavares for example, could both the LEafs and he agree to mutually terminate the deal?

Can teams buy out a guy under the guise of mutual termination which of course then would not count against the cap at all? Like, both parties would agree to a sum of money to be paid out to the player so they can go away? Of course then the payment would have to be under the table and very secretive. What would the penalties be for something like that?

 

[KovalchukFistPump]

Handshake deal during the trade probably. Just needed to finalize his contract with Russia.

Anyone who followed him saw his soul leave the NHL years ago.

When you add it to the party stuff, just seems like a guy who probably isn't willing to do the 'boring' stuff like doing repetitive drills and playing safer hockey. Vrana is the same type and a lot of these guys just aren't willing to change their game and lifestyle once their body starts slowing down even a little bit.

 

[bleedgreen]

He made a comment or two after the deal that made me think he was so down after last year he was contemplating leaving but he had a positive experience with us so I had hoped he would be in a good place about it.

I think it’s fair to think the Canes knew this was an option when they traded for him. They signed Roslovic when we already had five centers, and of course he plays wing a lot but when we got him it seemed obvious one of our current guys was moving on. Maybe they waited until they knew they had Drury locked up before they made it official, but I’m guessing they knew the whole time Kuzy was headed home. I think he had a great career, and I’m happy for him. I liked him as a player, and I’ll miss the bird. He had personality and I always respected him.

 

[Discipline Daddy]

Dang. One of the most skilled players I've ever seen lace up for the sightless eye. Absolutely, undeniably skilled. He made things happen after zone entries and on the powerplay that no one else on our team could pull off. I'll miss Kuzy after his short stint.

 

[Il Stugotz]

Can teams buy out a guy under the guise of mutual termination which of course then would not count against the cap at all? Like, both parties would agree to a sum of money to be paid out to the player so they can go away? Of course then the payment would have to be under the table and very secretive. What would the penalties be for something like that?

Massive. Probably loss of multiple first round draft picks

 

[seanlinden]

This player wanted to go back to Russia and gave up 6 million dollars to do so. Carolina is not forcing him out. They had enough cap space to sign Jarvis/Necas/Drury with Kuznetsov on the books. What might change, however, is that the Jarvis extension may now be 8 years instead of 2-3.

I understand... but take John Tavares as the example.

Let's say he wasn't desparate to be a Leaf. Could he & Toronto not mutually agree to terminate teh deal, and then go and sign for $5m elsewhere?

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Here's a stupid question...

What's to stop any team from doing this with a high-bonus, low-salary player?

Take John Tavares for example, could both the LEafs and he agree to mutually terminate the deal?

Would imagine the player would have to not end up playing in the league after the mutual termination otherwise there would be massive penalties.

 

[Calicaps]

I understand... but take John Tavares as the example.

Let's say he wasn't desparate to be a Leaf. Could he & Toronto not mutually agree to terminate teh deal, and then go and sign for $5m elsewhere?

Not a CBA expert by any stretch, but I don't see why not. Thing is, it's a big risk for the player. They have to know they can get their money somewhere else and unless they have a contract, they don't have a contract. Verbal agreements are only worth the paper they're written on. With a buyout, the player gets their money no matter what comes next--see Skinner.

EDIT: but come to think of it... what's to stop another team from claiming Kuz off waivers and refusing to let him out of his deal?

 

[TGWL]

Can teams buy out a guy under the guise of mutual termination which of course then would not count against the cap at all? Like, both parties would agree to a sum of money to be paid out to the player so they can go away? Of course then the payment would have to be under the table and very secretive. What would the penalties be for something like that?

The penalty is that it's not allowed.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Farewell to a guy who deserved the Conn Smyth

Conn Smythe !== post season Art Ross

 

[EpochLink]

At one point, he was riding high off the wave of his successful Cup run.