WarriorofTime
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Explains the reason Carolina was so willing to take him on, probably had knowledge that this was coming.
Not a good look? Seems like quite the reach. For a team with 5 top 4 defenders, losing two of them isn’t a big deal.Losing two of your top 4 D and a bunch of forwards is not a good look. It’s strange all walked and none resigned. You don’t generally see a team lose half of its top 6, 2 top 4 D and not je able to strike a deal with another top 6 forward very often.
Because the alternative is worse. Just roll over, let your top 6 walk and then what? Ice a top 6 of third liners and fail even worse?Not a good look? Seems like quite the reach. For a team with 5 top 4 defenders, losing two of them isn’t a big deal.
None of the forwards moved the needle for us in the playoffs, why overpay to keep them around
Is it any worse of a strategy than running the same players that don’t get it done?Because the alternative is worse. Just roll over, let your top 6 walk and then what? Ice a top 6 of third liners and fail even worse?
I’m just saying it’s unusual to see teams accept getting worse and roll over and take it on the chin. They have some cap space and could have made a push but.. radio silence.
They’re going from a top 10 team in the league to a playoff bubble team and I’m asking why. It’s unusual to take multiple steps backwards without trying another approach. It’s not a path sports franchises take. Most do not willingly accept mediocrity “just because”. They’ll be firmly in hockey purgatory
This roster… kinda sucks? That’s a brutal second line. Can’t imagine Carolina will open the season like this.Svechnikov – Aho – Jarvis
Roslovic – Drury – Necas
Martinook – Staal – Fast
Carrier – Kotkaniemi – Robinson
Lemieux
Slavin – Burns
Orlov – Walker
Gostisbehere – Chatfield
Kochetkov
Andersen
Using $2.25 mil for Drury (Kurashev arb award), $5.8 mil for Necas (Bratt 22-23 + inflation) and $7.75 mil for Jarvis (Svechnikov internal cap), that leaves about ~$1.5 mil under the cap. Try to go as skinny as possible early for accrual. Some combination of accrual/retention/Roslovic should allow for a meaningful Top 6 upgrade mid-season/deadline.
None? We only lost Skjei/Pesce/Teravainen. Guentzel and Kuzy were deadline acquisitions. What are talking about half our top six? They did try to sign all of them, they weren’t going to pay what the market did. Not able to strike a deal with another top six? From ufa? Of course they didn’t. They don’t pay first day prices nor should they. Who was available that would’ve signed with them and was worth the money? Guentzel was the only one that made sense and he chose elsewhere.Losing two of your top 4 D and a bunch of forwards is not a good look. It’s strange all walked and none resigned. You don’t generally see a team lose half of its top 6, 2 top 4 D and not je able to strike a deal with another top 6 forward very often.
You can’t pay them all but they chose to pay none. So what, the team is a playoff bubble team because they didn’t even try? That’s really strange IMO.
This roster… kinda sucks? That’s a brutal second line. Can’t imagine Carolina will open the season like this.
Forward core is brutally bad.This roster… kinda sucks? That’s a brutal second line. Can’t imagine Carolina will open the season like this.
The future? LolGood move for him. The future is out east anyways.
Aheee to disagree. They should have tried more aggressively to keep Guentzel, TT and picked up a top 6 forward desperately. They’re pretty much the undisputed losers of free agency. They took major steps backwards.None? We only lost Skjei/Pesce/Teravainen. Guentzel and Kuzy were deadline acquisitions. What are talking about half our top six? They did try to sign all of them, they weren’t going to pay what the market did. Not able to strike a deal with another top six? From ufa? Of course they didn’t. They don’t pay first day prices nor should they. Who was available that would’ve signed with them and was worth the money? Guentzel was the only one that made sense and he chose elsewhere.
There’s nothing strange about what happened. This off season has followed every off season during this regime. Trocheck, Nino, Dougie…we don’t pay those prices unless it’s a core piece.
The only thing that went wrong was holding Guentzel’s money for too long.
The future? Lol
This guy has major issues that he couldn't get under control, even with the help of the player assistance program.
He's leaving because, "in the east", to use your expression, they don't give a shit if this guy destroys his health and life.
I’m not trolling. It’s not a troll opinion nor is it a hot take to say it’s unusual to see a team let a bunch of their team’s core walk for nothing and not even try to replace them. This doesn’t happen often.My bad, it’s not like I didn’t know not to feed the troll.
I’m not trolling. It’s not a troll opinion nor is it a hot take to say it’s unusual to see a team let a bunch of their team’s core walk for nothing and not even try to replace them. This doesn’t happen often.
Not many contending teams would let a bunch walk for nothing and leave major holes in their lineups just because.
This is the same source that first reported about Michkov. Just because you don't know who he is doesn't mean he's less credible than Seravalli when it comes to the KHL.I'd pump the brakes on this until someone with more credibility makes a statement .
find out soon enough I guessThis is the same source that first reported about Michkov. Just because you don't know who he is doesn't mean he's less credible than Seravalli when it comes to the KHL.
Is it worst than a team that keeps its core intact, failure after failure?I’m not trolling. It’s not a troll opinion nor is it a hot take to say it’s unusual to see a team let a bunch of their team’s core walk for nothing and not even try to replace them. This doesn’t happen often.
Not many contending teams would let a bunch walk for nothing and leave major holes in their lineups just because.
He had a couple good years, one great playoff run, and has been mediocre otherwise. He's been a negative for some time now. If I was a Canes fan I'd say good riddance.Wow that's too bad if he's leaving but he had a great run in the NHL
Not a good look? Seems like quite the reach. For a team with 5 top 4 defenders, losing two of them isn’t a big deal.
None of the forwards moved the needle for us in the playoffs, why overpay to keep them around
will our defense take a step back? probably. but this isnt some "not a good look moment" the quoted poster is trying to imply. teams lose UFAs. some people want to draw to many conclusions from it.That's a bit of a strange assertion. You could have 6 Top-4 D, if you lose two of them without replacement, that's still a huge deal.
Aheee to disagree. They should have tried more aggressively to keep Guentzel, TT and picked up a top 6 forward desperately. They’re pretty much the undisputed losers of free agency. They took major steps backwards.
Playoff bubble team at best when they were a contender all this time. They let it slip away for nothing. That is weird