Speculation: Caps Roster General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2022-23 Season Part 3: Drop the puck!

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I think Lars on first line is more about putting Strome and McM in the right spots. Or at least consistent spots.
 
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Yeah. Let’s wait and see before we make that type of proclamation. I’d for sure trade the first for a deep run. Obv nothing is guaranteed, so let’s not go there.

But the right player can make a huge difference. I’d trade the first for that.

Just not for some cheesy rental.
 

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Of course injuries would shake things up quickly. This is why it was pointless to panic about lines early on.

I expect these lines to last about 10 minutes. It seems like other than Ovie at 1LW the top 3 lines are interchangeable.

If CMM is with Mojo and Mantha he'll see decent TOI. But we'll see if the combos stick.
 
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Of course injuries would shake things up quickly. This is why it was pointless to panic about lines early on.

I expect these lines to last about 10 minutes. It seems like other than Ovie at 1LW the top 3 lines are interchangeable.

If CMM is with Mojo and Mantha he'll see decent TOI. But we'll see if the combos stick.
I expect eller and dowd to alternate every other one of CMMs shifts because Lavi gonna Lavi.
 

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Yeah. Let’s wait and see before we make that type of proclamation. I’d for sure trade the first for a deep run. Obv nothing is guaranteed, so let’s not go there.

But the right player can make a huge difference. I’d trade the first for that.

Just not for some cheesy rental.
Agreed…I’d only trade the first for a Core addition/upgrade. If a deep run comes from that all the better.
 
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Could we trade for Connor Garland with Connor Brown out Long-Term? Seems like he isn't what the 'Nucks need right now. Healthy scratch last game.

Supposedly VAN looking for D. LuJo + for CGarland?
 

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Could we trade for Connor Garland with Connor Brown out Long-Term? Seems like he isn't what the 'Nucks need right now. Healthy scratch last game.

Supposedly VAN looking for D. LuJo + for CGarland?

Healthy scratch or not, the Nucks aren't trading Conor Garland for a soon-to-be 25 year old D with a whopping 1 game of NHL experience. You need to give in order to get.

Also, what exactly do we need to replace about Brown? He hasn't exactly been an impact player so far. We don't know how long Brown will be out, and there's Wilson coming back in December.
 
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Healthy scratch or not, the Nucks aren't trading Conor Garland for a soon-to-be 25 year old D with a whopping 1 game of NHL experience. You need to give in order to get.

Also, what exactly do we need to replace about Brown? He hasn't exactly been an impact player so far. We don't know how long Brown will be out, and there's Wilson coming back in December.
To play devils advocate that is a damn small sample size to judge Brown’s impact on the team.
 

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Healthy scratch or not, the Nucks aren't trading Conor Garland for a soon-to-be 25 year old D with a whopping 1 game of NHL experience. You need to give in order to get.

Also, what exactly do we need to replace about Brown? He hasn't exactly been an impact player so far. We don't know how long Brown will be out, and there's Wilson coming back in December.
I think Brown was played too high up in the lineup. He's been a third liner his whole career, its not surprising he didn't gel with Ovie and Kuzy.
 
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The trade to make is for a 1LD. I like Fever a lot, but he shouldn’t be a 1LD right now. The best forward trade we can make right now is getting a 1RW (Wilson) back. Heart and Soul.
 

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Carlson shouldn’t be the 1RD now either lol…
He should NOT. But that isn’t going to change unfortunately. Need to find someone who can complement him. maybe they shake the whole thing up with some new pairs. That would be a novel idea. Problem is you would have to play 2 righties and 2 lefties together because you can’t put Gus and JC74 together. Orlov and JC74 hasn’t worked. So maybe try TVR on first pair… that may work with JC74. And then Fever with Gus.
 

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He should NOT. But that isn’t going to change unfortunately. Need to find someone who can complement him. maybe they shake the whole thing up with some new pairs. That would be a novel idea. Problem is you would have to play 2 righties and 2 lefties together because you can’t put Gus and JC74 together. Orlov and JC74 hasn’t worked. So maybe try TVR on first pair… that may work with JC74. And then Fever with Gus.
I would really like to see TVR given a chance at 1LD. I don't think he gets as much appreciation as he deserves. The guy is very solid defensively.

Pairing Fever with Gustafsson could be a disaster, though. Gustafsson (as people here are discovering) is really only good as an offensive D. He needs a strong defensive D to be paired with, which is why he's likely been good so far - because TVR has been doing the defensive work.

It's a bit of a dilemma, because Carlson also needs a strong defensive partner.

Biggest problem of all: our coach is a stubborn SOB who seems to hate trying different things.
 

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He should NOT. But that isn’t going to change unfortunately. Need to find someone who can complement him. maybe they shake the whole thing up with some new pairs. That would be a novel idea. Problem is you would have to play 2 righties and 2 lefties together because you can’t put Gus and JC74 together. Orlov and JC74 hasn’t worked. So maybe try TVR on first pair… that may work with JC74. And then Fever with Gus.
I will say this ‘need to find a good partner for JC74’ narrative is growing stale as the years go on. Since 2016-17 he’s been paired with:

Brooks Oprik
Nate Schmidt
Dimitry Orlov
Christian Djoos
Michal Kempny
Nick Jensen
Jonas Siegenthaler
Brendan Dillon
Martin Fehevary

That’s quite a long list, pretty evenly split between complimentary dynamic types and tougher, defensive partners. We’ve had guys who can lay big hits and shot block, guys with great first passes, guys with speed, guys with a scoring touch, vets, rookies - Carlson has struggled to play well with any of them at 5v5 for more than about 10 or 15 games. At what point do we just accept his play needs to change?

At a certain point I think you have to reduce his minutes and upgrade the 2RD position so a Niskanen-like player can succeed in the tougher minutes instead. Unfortunately we don’t have the cap space for that, so we’re stuck.
 
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Coaching isn’t the only problem, but in all honesty, it’s the only problem that is fixable.

The top half of the East from last year is better than us, and the bottom half is younger and faster.

Laviolette isn’t the guy to bridge the gap here. If we are under 500 at the 15 game mark, a change should be made. When you invest $5m in a goaltender, you clearly believe your team should be competing for something. You would have to be delusional to believe that is the case in Washington.
 

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Re: McMike

Something I’ve noticed this fanbase do often is pin all of their answers on the lack of ice time for one relatively minor young player. Will McMichael be good? It’s possible, but the fanboyism on Twitter and RMNB would have you believe we’re healthy scratching McDavid. Regardless of where you fall, his ice time is not the difference in us winning it losing.


I think McMichael looks raw as hell, and over his career I do think he’s getting a fair amount of TOI. When he’s playing he largely feels like he’s trying to do too much and gripping his stick too tight. Lots of pucks being lost because he skates straight into defenders, mishandles the puck, or shanks a shot. I don’t know how you can truly go to a team that’s still attempting to compete and say “this guy isn’t actually cashing in on the time he’s seeing on the ice, so we’re going to give him more time”. I look at a guy like Protas and I feel like he’s just more present on the ice. Heck, even Lapierre, whole raw as hell, felt dangerous.


This isn’t me saying McMike is bad or a bust but more so that I just don’t see why he’s become the anointed one. Previously it was Vrana, before him Burakovsky, etc.
 

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I think Lars on first line is more about putting Strome and McM in the right spots. Or at least consistent spots.
Is McMichael getting 8 minutes in the right spot?

I just cannot wrap my head around a year where two of your most important players are going to miss a lot of time, one possibly the whole season and now a third top 6er is out for the foreseeable future, you decide we need to keep benching our young guys instead of giving them time. This year should have been the time guys like McC, Protas, LuJo, and/or Alexyev should all have seen some time. Instead, I can't wait till we trade one or two of them away for some mid-tier veteran to "keep us in the hunt".
 

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This isn’t me saying McMike is bad or a bust but more so that I just don’t see why he’s become the anointed one. Previously it was Vrana, before him Burakovsky, etc.

Wouldn't Vrana be an indictment on most of your previous point? Vrana, of all dudes, wasn't like McMichael where he's only put up a handful of points in big games. Vrana was coming off back to back seasons with 25ish goals and 50 points. He was one of our only guys with any speed, and he was constantly benched and sat when we actually needed offense.

Like, Lavi has consistently made the decision to play older and slower players and it has had this team moving backwards in the modern style of the NHL. It's what made his Fehervary usage so crazy to me last year.
 

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I would really like to see TVR given a chance at 1LD. I don't think he gets as much appreciation as he deserves. The guy is very solid defensively.

Pairing Fever with Gustafsson could be a disaster, though. Gustafsson (as people here are discovering) is really only good as an offensive D. He needs a strong defensive D to be paired with, which is why he's likely been good so far - because TVR has been doing the defensive work.

It's a bit of a dilemma, because Carlson also needs a strong defensive partner.

Biggest problem of all: our coach is a stubborn SOB who seems to hate trying different things.
The last guy that worked well with Carlson was not what I would call a strong defensive partner.

He was extremely mobile and just good enough defensively, which is what I think they see in Fever with a lot more upside than a Kempny.

I think TVR would get exposed with Carlson’s workload.

Sad that CMM felt he had to fight to keep a spot in the lineup
I like a teammate standing up for another…..it’s honorable.
 
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