Speculation: Caps General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2020 Offseason Pt. 1

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If I remember correctly, Dadonov has similar consistency issues to Kuzy.


Edit: actually seems like he was pretty consistent, I feel like there was something else about him though, I can’t remember what it was.
 
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If I remember correctly, Dadonov has similar consistency issues to Kuzy.


Edit: actually seems like he was pretty consistent, I feel like there was something else about him though, I can’t remember what it was.

What would Dadonov be looking for in a contract? He scored 70 points just 2 seasons ago
 

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How did I miss him? Apologies.

Also, regarding Sprong, I added him to the safe list because TEB said he though Sprong would get a long look - a bit of creative license on my part, no doubt. Same for Fever.
Interesting about Sprong. Maybe GMBM thought he should have been given an opportunity to help with the lack of scoring
 

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Logically I think the UFA market for forwards should be avoided at all costs with the possible exception of young cheap wingers capable of pushing Sprong & McMichael for depth spots. But even then only at a rate where they can cut bait. Boyd could still factor in and add to that mix, along with Malenstyn and the rest as far as the fourth-line goes. And, of course, even should Sprong and McMichael win out there's the issue of having enough spots with Hagelin & Panik gumming up the works.

Defense defense defense. Even if they manage to extend Dillon I'd look at someone like TVR, Tanev or Hamonic and maybe even a cheaper reliable LD that would either man 3LD while Fehervary adds more offensive substance or takes Siegenthaler's existing role while also serving as a scratch option. They'll need a back-up/1b sort as well but free agency should be about building from the net out. If someone like Dadonov falls in their laps or something then maybe but that would seem like a tough add given bigger needs, even if it were just a $3-4M one-year deal. Never say never but that's my view barring any trades.
 

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What would it take for Kempny to get traded elsewhere with his 2 years 5 million left on his contract? Outside of 1 year (2018 TDL to 2019 injury) his body of work isn't all that impressive, so I feel like teams aren't willing to even give up low round draft picks. That means we are going to have to take back salary with another disappointing player unless we add to the pot.
 

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Logically I think the UFA market for forwards should be avoided at all costs with the possible exception of young cheap wingers capable of pushing Sprong & McMichael for depth spots. But even then only at a rate where they can cut bait. Boyd could still factor in and add to that mix, along with Malenstyn and the rest as far as the fourth-line goes. And, of course, even should Sprong and McMichael win out there's the issue of having enough spots with Hagelin & Panik gumming up the works.

Defense defense defense. Even if they manage to extend Dillon I'd look at someone like TVR, Tanev or Hamonic and maybe even a cheaper reliable LD that would either man 3LD while Fehervary adds more offensive substance or takes Siegenthaler's existing role while also serving as a scratch option. They'll need a back-up/1b sort as well but free agency should be about building from the net out. If someone like Dadonov falls in their laps or something then maybe but that would seem like a tough add given bigger needs, even if it were just a $3-4M one-year deal. Never say never but that's my view barring any trades.
I don't know if we need to add any dmen. I like some of our young prospects. A couple of them might be ready to make the jump to the NHL.
 

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What would it take for Kempny to get traded elsewhere with his 2 years 5 million left on his contract? Outside of 1 year (2018 TDL to 2019 injury) his body of work isn't all that impressive, so I feel like teams aren't willing to even give up low round draft picks. That means we are going to have to take back salary with another disappointing player unless we add to the pot.
Might have to buy out his contract.
 

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What would it take for Kempny to get traded elsewhere with his 2 years 5 million left on his contract? Outside of 1 year (2018 TDL to 2019 injury) his body of work isn't all that impressive, so I feel like teams aren't willing to even give up low round draft picks. That means we are going to have to take back salary with another disappointing player unless we add to the pot.
If I’m GMBM I give opposing GMs a hard sell on the whole team underperforming under Reirden and Kempny just didn’t fit the system he implemented. His salary isn’t awful and some dumb GM might bite at the thought of him regaining his SC run form
 
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What would it take for Kempny to get traded elsewhere with his 2 years 5 million left on his contract? Outside of 1 year (2018 TDL to 2019 injury) his body of work isn't all that impressive, so I feel like teams aren't willing to even give up low round draft picks. That means we are going to have to take back salary with another disappointing player unless we add to the pot.

Finding a team willing to take a veteran defenseman with a stanley cup on his resume on a 3rd pair player salary wont be hard. The Caps wont get much back but all they really want is the salary cap flexibility.
 
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If I’m GMBM I give opposing GMs a hard sell on the whole team underperforming under Reirden and Kempny just didn’t fit the system he implemented. His salary isn’t awful and some dumb GM might bite at the thought of him regaining his SC run form

Why in God's name does a GM need to be stupid to be willing to pick up a stanley cup winning defenseman on the cheap to use in a 3rd pair on a 3rd pair defenseman's cap hit? I dont get it.

Kempny is not a top 4 defenseman anymore. He is still a solid NHL player, though. There are many teams that could get value out of Kempny.
 

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Thats the thing. I think cap space is going to be a precious commodity for the next few years with the freeze. Teams will be less inclined to take on cap space period unless you make it worth their while. And a buyout is a tough sell with Kempny being on the books for 4 more years when we don't even know what year the cap will finally go up.
 

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Thats the thing. I think cap space is going to be a precious commodity for the next few years with the freeze. Teams will be less inclined to take on cap space period unless you make it worth their while. And a buyout is a tough sell with Kempny being on the books for 4 more years when we don't even know what year the cap will finally go up.

I dont see any reason that a team needing a 3rd pair veteran wouldnt want him. We disagree.
 

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I don't know if we need to add any dmen. I like some of our young prospects. A couple of them might be ready to make the jump to the NHL.
IMO if there's cap space they'll do it. They need more reliability and the whole culture commentary suggests they're not exactly going to err on the side of inexperience if it can be avoided. Maybe there's a leftfield trade of 92/13 instead for a splashier change of structure. Extending Dillon would bring some of that Niskanen/Orpik element to the table but I'm not sure that's enough.

Of course, I've basically written off or forgotten about Kempny in all of this. I don't think he's an answer unless they plan on playing a pretty up-tempo, attacking style. Otherwise I'm not sure he fits and even then with Orlov being better on the left Kempny may only fit if Dillon prices himself out of a return. Ideally I think a natural RD partner for Orlov would be far more preferable.
 

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IMO if there's cap space they'll do it. They need more reliability and the whole culture commentary suggests they're not exactly going to err on the side of inexperience if it can be avoided. Maybe there's a leftfield trade of 92/13 instead for a splashier change of structure. Extending Dillon would bring some of that Niskanen/Orpik element to the table but I'm not sure that's enough.

Of course, I've basically written off or forgotten about Kempny in all of this. I don't think he's an answer unless they plan on playing a pretty up-tempo, attacking style. Otherwise I'm not sure he fits and even then with Orlov being better on the left Kempny may only fit if Dillon prices himself out of a return. Ideally I think a natural RD partner for Orlov would be far more preferable.

The Capitals tried to stretch their cap space by using inexpensive situational defensemen like Kempny and Jensen. 2 of those guys is too much. Their defense corp structure is a mess.

Kempny is out. It might be that they need a more mobile and skilled player in the Dillon roster spot. Lets just say its a trade for a one year rental like Brodin. Put him with Carlson for one year at $4m. Evaluate during the season to see if Fehervary would be ready for that spot the season after. Brodin does a little more and fits today's NHL defensive game a little better than Dillon.

Whatever they do, I agree they have some real structural trouble on the defense.
 
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Why in God's name does a GM need to be stupid to be willing to pick up a stanley cup winning defenseman on the cheap to use in a 3rd pair on a 3rd pair defenseman's cap hit? I dont get it.

Kempny is not a top 4 defenseman anymore. He is still a solid NHL player, though. There are many teams that could get value out of Kempny.
Because he clearly looked broken :dunno:
 
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