Pastor Of Muppetz
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He didn’t play 17 minutes in his last 10..mostly around 15.
He probably will go on to be a good useful PMD ,but he’d be redundant here..imo.
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He probably will go on to be a good useful PMD ,but he’d be redundant here..imo.
SelltheTeamFrancesco
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Texier might be interesting pick up. Played in NLA this year. Probably would be very cheap.
Diamonddog01
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Regardless of his last game he's averaging a touch under 17 min on the season. So Hronek was an essential move which had to be made regardless of cost but Lundkvist is redundant? Hmmm....
SelltheTeamFrancesco
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Playing some of the most sheltered min in the NHL. Comparing him to Hronek or saying that he would have made him redundant is asinine. Honestly the only reason they have tried to play him as much as they have is because of what they gave up for him. His possession number aren't even that great play him in a top 4 role and watch what happens.
He hasn't played 17 mins or more since Jan 4th. Hronek at this point was logging well over 20 mins a game.
They really are not that close at this point, in development or skill right now.
Diamonddog01
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He's an NHL rookie ffs. And my point was that they are both somewhat redundant - your reading comprehension licks ass. And yes, I'm sure that's what one of the top teams in the league was doing lol.
Uh yeah, one is playing in his first NHL season and one is in 5th. He's still averaging 17 min a night on the third best team in the West (which was at the top not long ago). I think they are closer than people think and it will be interesting to revisit this in a few years.
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Hronek played 22 mins a night when he was Lunqvist age. I wasn't looking at this season.
SelltheTeamFrancesco
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Lol maybe try watching the players instead of stat watching. But he plays 17 mins a game. Also he is rookie lol. He was only drafted two years after Hronek. 16 points in 57 games playing 17 mins game while giving you nothing defensively is kind of sad.
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Diamonddog01
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He had already been in the NHL for a bit though. But in any case, I would prefer the Miller and Horvat package to what we currently have and think we'd be in a better position to make further improvements. Perhaps you do not.
Management needs to be cutthroat with players like Bear and not commit to term unless the dollars are overly favorable to the team. There's a ton of promising players out there begging for an opportunity. We can't afford another Poolman or Dickinson situation. Better to cycle through players that are hungry and lean on your pro scouting, imo.
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That would be absolutely shocking considering the 3 year age gap between the two and the fact one is a top pairing guy and the other probably shouldn’t be in the NHL.
Diamonddog01
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We will see. As I said it wouldn't surprise me, didn't say it was going to happen. I don't think Hronek is really a top pairing and I disagree regarding your last comment.
I maintain I did not and do not like the NYR Miller trade package. It stank. I wanted to trade Miller at the time, but I would have wanted a better package. As I said Schneider would have had to be included. I would still be ok with Trading Miller, but again depending on what is coming our way.
Horvat. I liked the trade. I placed a ton of Value on the pick we received. I do think we paid too much for Hronek, but I did like the player and think it was the type of movie we should be looking at.
To take this a step back with Miller/Horavt. Last year I wanted to trade Miller over Horvat because I thought the Horvat contract would be less and a great contract. Now knowing it is 8.5, I take miller every day. I would still be ok as mentioned moving miller, but only for proper value.
Pastor Of Muppetz
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I don’t know what number Bear is looking for..but Schenn is a good back up plan (depending on how much he wants..?..maybe he’ll take $1.5M per)
Diamonddog01
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Well we agree with several things here and I did hold your view when the initial offer was leaked. Now though...with Chytil playing well and having taken another step, with Lambert crushing it in the WHL and with Lundvkist playing in his first season (he looked good at the start of the year, less now) - I think it's a very good package in hindsight. Part of the point I was trying to make though is that if they had Lundvkist then they may not make the Hronek trade (and yes, Hronek is clearly the better player at this time), and/or they trade for more of a defensive RHD which was always been the acute need from day one.
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I'm more worried about the term than the cap hit. Just keep the bottom of the roster fresh and hungry. For a guy like Schenn I would hope they'll do somethingl like take it one year at a time with the understanding he could retire as a Canucks and then move into some role with the organization.
I don't believe in Chytil. I think he was better than I thought, but not what he is showing. Somewhere in between. For Miller that package is missing that Grade A piece especially when that deal was rumored.
I think Bear is a better defencemen than Lundkvist and he didn't make Hronek redundant.
26 year old top six center is not interesting??
Canucks aren’t exactly strong at the center position… this is a beggars can’t be choosers type of thing.
Makes a lot more sense than Laffy
Why would the Canucks go after another winger????
Laf might have made sense in the deadline prior to this year before we got Beau, Mikheyev, Kravstov…
Not sure how this makes sense in any universe. Already stocked at wingers but we’re gonna use assets to get another winger?? Don’t see this at all
Ok but how the hell do we have assets for Lundell??? Lmao
Why would Florida want to trade us a 21 year old 2C/3C that’s playing really well??
This isn’t NHL 23… you have to think about why would the other team do a deal.
Who? Lol
Yeah let’s put our playoff bets on someone who’s been a winger his entire career to flourish in a new position.
It’s not unprecedented but it’s definitely not likely.
We’re not really a team that can test trials these type of things.
y2kcanucks
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Would be nice if the Canucks could trade Hronek to a team for a mid-1st round pick and a high 2nd round pick. Think there would be any takers?
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Chytil would get killed in a 2C role here. He’s there offensively at least getting favourably match up but in his own end he’d be slaughtered. Don’t think you’d trade Horvat in that scenario. In this scenario you probably sign Horvat in the summer for a cheaper contract than the one he got.
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Stars fans seem to like him, but I still the price Nill paid was ridiculous
I’ve been intrigued by Roslovic in the past but I now think that’s he’s a tweener type who can put up decent numbers on mediocre/bad teams but isn’t someone you want on a good team unless you baby him pretty hard with soft usage.
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