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A little bit of info from LeBrun about the Miller rumours.

I don’t blame Canucks general manager Patrik Allvin for trying to minimize the extent of Miller trade talks after the deadline. There’s no currency in publicly discussing trade talks involving a player who signed a seven-year, $56 million extension last summer that hasn’t even kicked in yet.

But what is also true is that the Canucks had some meaningful trade discussions with Pittsburgh before the deadline, to the point where two third-party teams, and maybe more that I didn’t hear of, were approached by the Canucks and asked if they would take a player from Pittsburgh to make the whole thing work cap-wise. One team gave it serious thought but then heard back from the Canucks on Friday that the discussion with Pittsburgh was dead.

So, what do we make of all this? First of all, remember that, per the CBA, when Miller signed his extension Sept. 2 the Canucks could have given him no-move protection right then and there, ahead of the new contract kicking in July 1. They did not, choosing instead to keep that flexibility for this season. So, read into that what you will, but I think Miller and his agent Brian Bartlett filed that away as “be ready for anything until the extension kicks in.”

There’s still a decent chance Miller is part of the Canucks’ opening night lineup next fall, but I also believe management will keep listening prior to July 1, just in case. Miller hasn’t been promised anything either way.

(By the way, it goes without saying that the Canucks will try again on moving Brock Boeser this summer, but I didn’t think we needed a whole section to state the obvious here.)
 
Re OEL:

Was obvious early in the season that he was playing hurt. Awkward turn, scaled down physical play and a bunch of times i observed him struggling to get up on either the bad ankle he injured at the worlds or perhaps a knee injury. Hobbled much of the season from my standpoint.

On ice he had good results with Ethan Bear while Myers and Schenn to no surprise were dragging him to hell.

The 7 million dollar question is really can he get healthy and get positive results with Hronek or Bear.
 
I wonder how quickly the JT thing gets revisited if the pens bow out quickly in R1.
 
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I wonder how quickly the JT thing gets revisited if the pens bow out quickly in R1.
They made a big mistake going for Granlund. It's half assing what they should be doing - going all in for Crosby and Malkin's remaining years as elite forwards.

They'd be smart to try to get JT before July 1 but feels as though Allvin won't budge unless he knows he can jettison the assets gained to acquire a young center and/or RHD almost immediately
 
Jeesh what a soap opera. Do we have to be moving on from everybody all the time. No team in the NHL has this much drama do they.

I guess the pundits sure know what bees nest to kick to get attention

No wonder players get sick of Canadian markets. Pretty much sign up for being part of the royal family. Quite frankly i'm sick of it. The deadline is over whats the point of dragging players names through the mud and speculating with 20 games and playoffs before it's relevant
 
I wonder how quickly the JT thing gets revisited if the pens bow out quickly in R1.

They will have a significant chunk of cap space with very few consequential RFAs. Around 20m with big ticket Zucker coming off the books (5.5m).
 
Jeesh what a soap opera. Do we have to be moving on from everybody all the time. No team in the NHL has this much drama do they.

I guess the pundits sure know what bees nest to kick to get attention

No wonder players get sick of Canadian markets. Pretty much sign up for being part of the royal family. Quite frankly i'm sick of it. The deadline is over whats the point of dragging players names through the mud and speculating with 20 games and playoffs before it's relevant
A f'n men
 
Bob McKenzie also mentioned that it appeared to be an issue where the Pens wanted Vancouver to take back a player they weren’t interested in. I thought it might’ve been McGinn but he was pretty easily dumped on Anaheim. Maybe Rakell but talking to Pens’ fans they all were adamant he’s not a guy Pittsburgh would be dumping. Possibly Jeff Carter? Jan Rutta?

Will be interesting if this is revisited around the draft as there were also rumours that Pittsburgh was interested in Demko and his cost certainty given Jarry is an impending UFA.
 
Jeesh what a soap opera. Do we have to be moving on from everybody all the time. No team in the NHL has this much drama do they.

I guess the pundits sure know what bees nest to kick to get attention

No wonder players get sick of Canadian markets. Pretty much sign up for being part of the royal family. Quite frankly i'm sick of it. The deadline is over whats the point of dragging players names through the mud and speculating with 20 games and playoffs before it's relevant
Not sure if this is a Canadian market thing as much as a poorly run franchise thing.
 
If we could only move Miller and have a 2C in his prime in return to help with a retool. A guy like Bo Horvat maybe?
 
After trading Miller and Horvat where’s the 2C suppose to come from? I don’t think Miller is getting moved.
 
No team continually fails to meet the expectations they set for themselves like the Canucks do, either.

The drama will stop when the winning starts.
oh agree somewhat. But just look at TOR and MTL for confirmation that either your winning the cup or it's a giant drama in the big Canadian markets. It would be bad for business for it not to be for the pundits
 
Bob McKenzie also mentioned that it appeared to be an issue where the Pens wanted Vancouver to take back a player they weren’t interested in. I thought it might’ve been McGinn but he was pretty easily dumped on Anaheim. Maybe Rakell but talking to Pens’ fans they all were adamant he’s not a guy Pittsburgh would be dumping. Possibly Jeff Carter? Jan Rutta?

Will be interesting if this is revisited around the draft as there were also rumours that Pittsburgh was interested in Demko and his cost certainty given Jarry is an impending UFA.

Frank Seravelli reported that the Penguins ended discussions on Miller, not the Canucks. Carter has an NMC, and I'm sure the Canucks would have been happy to add Rutta.
 


Here's Pronman's take on Sasson from an article a few weeks ago:

28. Max Sasson, C, Western Michigan-NCHC: Sasson has been the center of the top line for Western. He’s a strong skater, and unusually quick for a college free-agent target, especially given he’s not small which will make him quite attractive to NHL clubs. He works hard enough with his feet to potentially play a lower role on a team. The question with him will be offense. Sasson can make plays but he’s not a natural scorer with a ton of skill.
 
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Here's Pronman's take on Sasson from an article a few weeks ago:

28. Max Sasson, C, Western Michigan-NCHC: Sasson has been the center of the top line for Western. He’s a strong skater, and unusually quick for a college free-agent target, especially given he’s not small which will make him quite attractive to NHL clubs. He works hard enough with his feet to potentially play a lower role on a team. The question with him will be offense. Sasson can make plays but he’s not a natural scorer with a ton of skill.

Malinski, Livingstone and Sasson would be solid gets. NCAA route seems to be one of the best opportunities to improve for the Canucks. Picking up a few of these guys, plus the Kuzmenko signing last offseason, would be the best thing this management team has done.
 
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Malinski, Livingstone and Sasson would be solid gets. NCAA route seems to be one of the best opportunities to improve for the Canucks. Picking up a few of these guys, plus the Kuzmenko signing last offseason, would be the best thing this management team has done.
Faber is not as high on Malinski as anything more than a good low cost gamble.

He likes some 6’3 LHD. That LHD and Livingstone are the guys he sees as the biggest gets. Edit: Bengtsson is the guy

I think he has Hirose/Malinski lower

Also, if you are an agent for a high demand winger and your client signs in VAN, you should be fired. Way too many wings in similar positions.
 
Bengtsson and Livingstone would be awesome

Quite frankly other than Graf and Malinski i dont see much NHL upside to most of the other guys. Malinski after the Hronek trade doesn't make a ton of stylistic sense if they are hoping to use him to his best role

Graf being from MASS and a winger will not be coming here

Bengtsson is exactly what we need more of instead of a UFA signing. Truscott is someone who could also surprise as a 3rd pair guy. Let these guys battle for the minutes. Wolainin even if they can get that done.

Just bridge to RePetey because if he has another development year like this he's fast tracking to a top4 guy in 3-4yrs right in line with getting OEL outta here

Livingstone makes so much sense for him and for us. He can platoon for a year then take over for Myers. Even if he struggles a bit he has lots of opportunity to be a depth guy
 
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Dermott, Bear, Studnika, Stillman

Some pro-scouting misses. Studnika is an AHLer. Dermott and Bear are depth dmen that are injury prone and Stillman sucked.

Books still out on Kravtsov. Really need some luck when it comes to these age gap players as well

Bear absolutely has not been a ‘miss’ and taking a slapshot to the face isn’t ‘injury prone’.


Here's Pronman's take on Sasson from an article a few weeks ago:

28. Max Sasson, C, Western Michigan-NCHC: Sasson has been the center of the top line for Western. He’s a strong skater, and unusually quick for a college free-agent target, especially given he’s not small which will make him quite attractive to NHL clubs. He works hard enough with his feet to potentially play a lower role on a team. The question with him will be offense. Sasson can make plays but he’s not a natural scorer with a ton of skill.


Sasson looks very interesting as a bottom-6 C type.

Malinski is *so* old. He’s basically the same age as Hronek from the same draft year.
 
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Does anyone know the context (i.e. linemates, PP time, etc.) behind this increase in production for Sasson?
 
Bear absolutely has not been a ‘miss’ and taking a slapshot to the face isn’t ‘injury prone’.


Sasson looks very interesting as a bottom-6 C type.

Malinski is *so* old. He’s basically the same age as Hronek from the same draft year.

Expectations definitely need to be tempered for these NCAA FAs who are 23/24 (Malinski will be entering his 25 yo season in 23-24!!) who have never played a single game of pro hockey. Would essentially have to walk onto the team and not look out of place. The good news is that they can only sign a 1 year ELC, so if they signed to play out the stretch you get a decent look at whether you have a player worth qualifying or not—pretty low risk.
 
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