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[Vector]

Garland, Myers and Pod for Laine, Johnson and Blankenburg

Yeah this is exactly what I’m talking about. Some weird desperate overpay swing for the fences.

 

[Kryten]

The problem with is that the claim was the Canucks would clear $1.15 million in space by burying Beauvilier, but with the Canucks having accrued no cap space, you can't take the entire amount for Beauvilier off the Canucks' cap while only taking a prorated share of Bear's contract. If you're going to consider prorated amounts, you have to prorate both, which leaves the Canucks over the cap if they bury Beauvilier and sign Bear.

Touché. So we’re back to a 1 year deal less than 1.15 with a handshake deal for the following year

 

[oceanchild]

This is the dream scenario and if he was available it would cost too much, I don’t know how he signed a 2 x 4 million dollar contract he would be cheap for the next year and then he would likely getting what Hronek is set to get

But I would have no problem having Hughes at 7.8… Hronek and Dobson at 7-8
Willander, Lekk and a 1st if a fair price but we can’t afford to pay it we need those ELCs

I think Luo would have to get fired for this to happen, I can’t see him rebuilding. Only so many off the radar names that would fit the profile.

I’ve kicked around the idea in my head. The term isn’t bad with only two seasons left after this one. 8.7m is extremely prohibitive and would need to find a way to get that down. I wouldn’t be willing to give up anything if real value either and I assume the Blue Jackets would scoff at that idea.

He just can’t stay healthy. I would trade Garland for him straight up if he was at $7m, but that’s about it.

 

[oceanchild]

Zero chance Dobson is traded.

Everyone in the league would be interested if he become available.

I think the islanders need to do something significant. Lots of players to trade before Dobson for sure, and the price would be harsh. Just only so many off radar players that fit the bill for what I think this team needs. His lower salary would really help offset the OEL cost and hopefully the cap would increase enough by the time he needed to be re-signed. I do think Luo would need to be fired before this could ever happen (I agree it’s like a 1% chance but I would have said the same about Hronek).

 

[supercanuck]

I just noticed that EP and JTM lead the forwards on the team in TOI/Game, and among the top scorers this season only a couple have a higher TOI/Game than they do (Reinhart, Karlsson). As much as I enjoy the threat of them scoring on the PK, this is probably not the most optimal use of their skills. Hopefully when both Suter and Blueger are playing, they won't be needed as much.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Laine would be a no brainer if feesable cmon now lets not be ridiculous.

 

[sewellda]

Justin Faulk should be our target. Still has it at 31; right shot D logging 20+ minutes on a rebuilding team. Is there a package around Canuck assets that could entice St. Louis to retain 1.75?

 

[DFAC]

Yeah this is exactly what I’m talking about. Some weird desperate overpay swing for the fences.

Jarmo should be fired before he can swing a deal like that. Absolutely brutal for them.

 

[Vector]

Jarmo should be fired before he can swing a deal like that. Absolutely brutal for them.

Slightly more realistically, it’s probably be Laine for Garland, Podkolzin, Poolman, something else and some other salary stuff and minor assets going either way. There’s no way Jiricek would be involved.

You don’t see these kind of trades during the regular season anymore so that’s another knock against it.

 

[Cogburn]

I like the idea of Laine. I hate the cap hit for the risk though.

I wonder what the cost would be to retain half his salary. Two and a half seasons left, I know, but are we talking a first? A first and a prospect? More? I mean, Laine at present is worth nothing with his full cap hit, but at half we could talk about basically full value based on our hopes he rebounds.

1st+Beauvillier for Laine at half retained would be the dream, but retaining 4.35 million dollars for 2 years after this one would be a lot to ask.

 

[Hansen]

Why Laine,,the guy spends more time on IR,then he does on the ice.Not what we need.
What we need is Rick Tocchet to stop playing Myers with Juulsen.

The hypothetical of acquiring him came up so I responded. I think our biggest need is a top 4 rd, followed by a malhotra type 3C

 

[rypper]

Laine can only grow an ugly albino Lincoln beard and for that reason, I'm out.

 

[m9]

It would have to be like Kuzmenko & Garland for Laine so you can put him in Kuz's spot with EP & on the PP.

Not saying I'd do that, btw

 

[andora]

I hope they win the next two... getting nuts in here talking about laine

Let someone else 'fix' him

 

[Josepho]

I'm not sure Kekalainen even has the power to actually make a big move right now.

 

[PavelBure10]

No thanks to Laine. I would prefer to trade assets for a defenseman who could be penciled into the top 4.

 

[I Hart Conor Garland]

I’ve kicked around the idea in my head. The term isn’t bad with only two seasons left after this one. 8.7m is extremely prohibitive and would need to find a way to get that down. I wouldn’t be willing to give up anything if real value either and I assume the Blue Jackets would scoff at that idea.

You should try and propose it on the trade rumors and proposals page.

 

[Vector]

You should try and propose it on the trade rumors and proposals page.

Ha! Blue Jackets fans here are way too unhinged. I know exactly the reaction I'd get.

 

[I Hart Conor Garland]

Ha! Blue Jackets fans here are way too unhinged. I know exactly the reaction I'd get.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

The healthy scratch we should be eyeing isn't in Columbus it's in Philadelphia: Morgan Frost is on Tortorella's shit list.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Laine is precisely what we don't need. I'm not saying he can't blow up somewhere, he always struck me as a guy who will play better on a bigger stage. Like if he was an NYR I could see him being a lot better than he has been in CBJ.

But it's funny that these boards railed on and on about how we had too many one dimensional wingers and now there is a lot of cloying to add 8.7 million dollars in a one dimensional winger (I can't see the experiment at center working over the long haul).

I think a team like the Islanders should be trying to get Laine if they can though.

 

[ChilliBilly]

It was specific to the one Prospect with a more direct question but I mean at the end of the day you have to seriously evaluate what you have in your system and how many of those guys at each position do you legit see becoming an NHL player then cross reference that to your salary projections and lineup projections and see how big of a hole it creates.

If you refuse to move a prospect because he's the best one while potentially having for example three other projected NHL players is that beneficial? If the player you are bringing in is of the right age and impact Where's the Line? There's only so many minutes in a game to be spread around

I have no problem with moving prospects and picks. Assuming they are good deals. My objection is to the budget and cap control. I am sick of us desperately using LTIR to be compliant. You need ELC's or decent waiver fodder to keep your lineup cap compliant. And you should only go "all in" if you have more of a baseline than 18 games into your first positive season in quite a while.

Also, if you have cap space, you can make better TDL deals. Thats where the real value is, and by then you have a good idea where u need strengthening to weather the playoffs.

 

[theguardianII]

I have no problem with moving prospects and picks. Assuming they are good deals. My objection is to the budget and cap control. I am sick of us desperately using LTIR to be compliant. You need ELC's or decent waiver fodder to keep your lineup cap compliant. And you should only go "all in" if you have more of a baseline than 18 games into your first positive season in quite a while.

Also, if you have cap space, you can make better TDL deals. Thats where the real value is, and by then you have a good idea where u need strengthening to weather the playoffs.

I agree with most of this except they are ALL IN NOW already.

That was decided when they bought out OEL. While his 4+million cap hit is not the worst for most teams it can or could be crippling in the future if they don't get a couple of existing prospects into the lineup PDQ.

I am sure they expect(ed) to trade Garland, Beauvillier, Myers or Boeser to gain more space either during the summer or up to the TDL. But if done now it may upset the "room" now. The team is still fragile mentally

Laine is precisely what we don't need. I'm not saying he can't blow up somewhere, he always struck me as a guy who will play better on a bigger stage. Like if he was an NYR I could see him being a lot better than he has been in CBJ.

IMO he would perform much better in Vancouver because he would not be required to lead. Here he could be "just" a player again without the pressure of the team solely on his shoulders.

If Allvin could get him for Garland and Beauvillier with a very late pick I think that could be considered a steal. It would certainly signal to Pettersson the team is seriously looking to the future.

Players of his pedigree just don't grow on tree's.

Garland, Myers and Pod for Laine, Johnson and Blankenburg

Well a blockbuster deal for sure and IMO feasible. Both teams could be improved. But instead of Blankenburg, Peeke.

Zero chance Dobson is traded.

Everyone in the league would be interested if he become available.

Romanov instead?

I’ve kicked around the idea in my head. The term isn’t bad with only two seasons left after this one. 8.7m is extremely prohibitive and would need to find a way to get that down. I wouldn’t be willing to give up anything if real value either and I assume the Blue Jackets would scoff at that idea.

The Canucks do appear to have a couple of defensive prospects that could make the team over the next two years or sooner.

That Brzustewicz kid is destroying his peers in the OHL, Pettersson is making the Swedish National team and even Jurmo looks like he is taking a small step forward. McWard impressed Juulsen IS playing now and there has been lots of hope for Hirose. Wolainin is still lighting it up. Brisebois recovering.
It looks like Vancouver D depth will/could be fine in the very near future. BUT Allvin has designed the cap for a win now.

 

[theguardianII]

The Canucks need somebody and fast. Ever since Soucy went down to injury, the Canucks have been going into a downward spiral.
Bear would be a nice bottom pairing defenseman, but the Canucks really need someone penciled into the top 4. Bear would replace Juulsen and would fire him out of a cannon to Abbotsford, but the Canucks are really lacking depth on defense.
Injuries happen throughout the season, and if Hughes/Hronek get injured, the season is over.
Hirose looked lost last night. Juulsen looks lost every night. Irwin, Woo, not good enough. It's time for Allvin to get creative. The time is now.
This core is in win now mode. The Canucks 2024 first rounder should be available, aswell as Raty, Podkolzin, Silovs or whoever we have that may entice a team to trade away a top 4 defenseman. Would be great to see if Allvin could pull off another Hronek type deal.
Ever since the Soucy injury, Hughes and company have looked a little lost at times in their own zone. That along with a horrendous schedule, the team is getting tired. I really hope that Allvin has some tricks up his sleeve before we lose out on this wonderful season due to another injury.

Any other decent defensemen out there on expiring contracts?

Other teams may have a player they may move to help them this year.

Romanov,
Zardorov
Columbus has a couple
Carolina -Pesce
Zaitsev
Livingston
Foote
Bahl
Ristolainen ??
Stanley
Schneider
Harpur?
A Montreal dman?
Myers P.
Fleury

Outside chance at Dobson but would cost a lot, Myers and a AAA prospect + picks would be in any deal

There are some more possibilities.

Trades where dollar in and dollar out

For Vancouver it will likely be more than one trade at the same time.

 

[krutovsdonut]

The healthy scratch we should be eyeing isn't in Columbus it's in Philadelphia: Morgan Frost is on Tortorella's shit list.

torts' shit list is often transitory.