Anyone know what happened to Dermott and Poolman?. Both played under 10 games this year and we havent heard anything about them lately
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I doubt we qualify Dermott. Guess we’ll see how the summer treats guys like Poolman and Pearson.
Man, we’ve had a number of guys who’ve had no luck at all with injuries.
Man, we’ve had a number of guys who’ve had no luck at all with injuries.
Things that would shock me:
1. Ownership allows a buyout of OEL
2. The team is able to trade him even with retention and significant sweetener.
Things that would not shock me (though unlikely)
1. It’s revealed that OEL was playing injured most of the year and he returns to last years form, a serviceable second pairing guy to play with Hronek
Bottom line is that they are stuck with his contract for 4 years. They just have to make the best of it.
1. Ownership allows a buyout of OEL
2. The team is able to trade him even with retention and significant sweetener.
Things that would not shock me (though unlikely)
1. It’s revealed that OEL was playing injured most of the year and he returns to last years form, a serviceable second pairing guy to play with Hronek
Bottom line is that they are stuck with his contract for 4 years. They just have to make the best of it.
Any way to get Crosby here without trading any of EP40, Hughes or Demko?
I wonder which way they go in Pittsburgh and if Sid wants to finish out his career in Canada.
I wonder which way they go in Pittsburgh and if Sid wants to finish out his career in Canada.
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Looks like you're already half correct. He was injured all last year. Now he just has to get better haha!
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Go ahead foot
Key difference is regulation loss.
Flames regulation record: 31-27-24
Van regulation record: 24-37-21
Flames record would get them into the playoffs.
Hughes, Bear, Hronek, and OEL (if he can return to being a decent Dman) would probably be a slightly below average top 4. If we could add Carlo from Boston and Gavrikov from LA that would give us an ideal mix of Physicalty, Skill, Mobility on the back end and probably make us a top 10 Dcore in the league.
That being said Myers, Garland and Boeser would all have to be traded for that to happen and we would have to have more clearity on if Poolman is able to play and if Pearson returns.
I think the Pearson injury is going to go to a grievence regardless of the outcome.
I hope Podz and Hoglander have big summers as there are a couple of other players like Mcdonough and Karlsson who will probably be pushing for spots come training camp. I wonder if Podz or Hoglander would be attractive enough to a team like Boston for them to consider moving Carlo.
I like Burroughs but I dont think he is going to resign here. There is a lot of competition for the 7/8 spots already and I think there are teams would be willing to give him a Stetcher/Biega like contract
Mik- Petey- Kuz
Beau- Miller - Garland/Boeser
Pearson - ???? - Garland/Boeser
????? - Alman - Joshua
With Hoglander, Karlsson, Mcdonough, Kravstov, and Podz all competing for 1 winger spot is probably one of the weaker forward groups we have had in a while but
Hughes - Bear
OEL - Hronek
?????-Myers
Wolanin, Brisebos, Woo, Hirose, Johansson, Poolman, Dermott (?) is probably one of the deepest D groups we have had in a long time. Even though that isnt saying much.
This is without potential trades happening though
That being said Myers, Garland and Boeser would all have to be traded for that to happen and we would have to have more clearity on if Poolman is able to play and if Pearson returns.
I think the Pearson injury is going to go to a grievence regardless of the outcome.
I hope Podz and Hoglander have big summers as there are a couple of other players like Mcdonough and Karlsson who will probably be pushing for spots come training camp. I wonder if Podz or Hoglander would be attractive enough to a team like Boston for them to consider moving Carlo.
I like Burroughs but I dont think he is going to resign here. There is a lot of competition for the 7/8 spots already and I think there are teams would be willing to give him a Stetcher/Biega like contract
Mik- Petey- Kuz
Beau- Miller - Garland/Boeser
Pearson - ???? - Garland/Boeser
????? - Alman - Joshua
With Hoglander, Karlsson, Mcdonough, Kravstov, and Podz all competing for 1 winger spot is probably one of the weaker forward groups we have had in a while but
Hughes - Bear
OEL - Hronek
?????-Myers
Wolanin, Brisebos, Woo, Hirose, Johansson, Poolman, Dermott (?) is probably one of the deepest D groups we have had in a long time. Even though that isnt saying much.
This is without potential trades happening though
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I don't think there is any way OEL returns to Top 4 form. Hirose is already higher on the depth chart than OEL.... and some are saying he could use a year in the AHL, which honestly I think he's already shown he doesn't need.
Trade either Boeser/Garland and trade Myers with his bonus being paid already he's only going to cost a team 1M in actual Salary. By trading Boeser and Myers, that frees up 12M. The sign Gavrikov and Juulsen. Your Dman situation would then look like this. And I'll be honset, if one of Wolanin, Brisebois, or Burroughs is outplaying OEL, then send OEL to the minors and just play the better player. He shouldn't have a roster spot because of his contract. By making the trades above and signing Gavrikov and Juulsen, we are probably still saving 5M in cap space (Gavrikov 6M and Juulsen 1M). That extra 5M gives us some options and honestly I'd prefer they used that and Bears contract money to sign an RH Dman that can actually keep up with Hughes, or allow Hughes to play more to his strengths by playing sound defensively.
Hughes - Bear
Gavrikov - Hronek
Hirose - Juulsen
OEL.
OEL must have amazing twitch muscle responses and hand-eye coordination to compensate for his lack of general fitness and athleticism. Imagine if he actually trained in the off-season. His skating is so laboured now, he should be working with a better skating coach fulltime. It is amazing that at this stage of his career, he really needs to learn how to prepare.
I suppose Karlsson was similar and turned it around but OEL would have to acknowledge his weaknesses before he could turn it around like Karlsson and in his end-of-season comments OEL appears to be oblivious to the fact his career has slipped away.
You can't send OEL down for cap relief, there's no buyout coming, any precedent on telling him not to report and just stay at home for the final 4 years? Make a Bet on Hirose sign him to 4 years. If it's about culture and winning than OEL can't be around this team eating that much money and performing so poorly.
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What part of he was recovering from a fractured foot (and couldn’t train in the off season) did you not understand?
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If Sekeres is promoting an OEL buyout, it has to be a bad idea.
Wow, Bear really threw Bruce under the bus in an implicit fashion.
"In Carolina, every single face-off there's a plan"
"Where we were at this year, it was kind of like .. oh my god, you gotta just survive, you're just making hockey reads instead of playing with structure ... it's kind of like every man for himself. You could sense it, we didn't really have that team camaraderie, that togetherness, everyone was a little lost."
Talking about trust, he again goes back to issues earlier in the season: "We gotta build trust, but It's hard to build trust when there isn't much direction being placed within your coaches and your system ... guys kind of did whatever they wanted, now we're building towards that accountability ... and then everything flows together"
Talking about training camp: "I'm excited, I really like what the coaches have brought"
Wow, Bear really threw Bruce under the bus in an implicit fashion.
"In Carolina, every single face-off there's a plan"
"Where we were at this year, it was kind of like .. oh my god, you gotta just survive, you're just making hockey reads instead of playing with structure ... it's kind of like every man for himself. You could sense it, we didn't really have that team camaraderie, that togetherness, everyone was a little lost."
Talking about trust, he again goes back to issues earlier in the season: "We gotta build trust, but It's hard to build trust when there isn't much direction being placed within your coaches and your system ... guys kind of did whatever they wanted, now we're building towards that accountability ... and then everything flows together"
Talking about training camp: "I'm excited, I really like what the coaches have brought"
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I think a big problem that got mentioned was that Bruce shouldn't have been brought back if management wanted their own guy, and I believe that to a degree. As always, ownership shot themselves in the foot - actually not accurate, it's more akin to what RoboCop went through.
The Aquilinis just straight up have no idea how to manage their business professionally, which is why every year it's some unique shitshow. Not to let Bruce off the hook, but his coaching was a symptom. The disease it's nearly embedded into the brand's DNA.
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What part of making more undefendable excuses for a declining player 9 full months after an injury that generally takes a couple to recover from?
The dawn of reality often comes too late in Canuckville.
It is one of the greatest foibles of being a devoted Canuck FAN-atic; the Kool-aid appears better than it tastes.
Shortly after Bear arrived there was a play at the end of a period where he was getting ready to push the play forward with 5 or 8 seconds left and his teammates just quit playing and headed to the bench and you could see he was WTF about the habits of the team around him after coming from Carolina, so those quotes aren’t surprising in the least.
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It's kinda interesting how the tide turns on certain players and then the reality of how bad or good they are gets skewed.
OEL for instance was a good 2nd pair defenseman in 2021/22 and our 2nd best on the team. Had the toughest defensive assignments with Tyler the tank Myers who he clearly elevated and held water.
Then he breaks his foot, is in a walking boot while others are training and skating has a poor start on a team without structure, poor communications, awful defence partners and goaltending. While this is happening gets re injured a couple times to the point of having to be shut down.
Now he's defined as a awful hockey player that needs to be bought out?
It's pretty much the same with Boeser.
And while i have gripes with these players with how they compete and engage in the game it's conceivable that they can rehabilitate their values enough to be decent top6 top4 players with Miller and Hronek.
In Boesers case 45-12-23-35 since Jan 1st and basically a even +/- once Tocchet got the structure and systems in check around game 48-50.
A .69ppg (56 p/82) -20 player before vs .78ppg (64 p/82) and even +/- after the new year.
OEL for instance was a good 2nd pair defenseman in 2021/22 and our 2nd best on the team. Had the toughest defensive assignments with Tyler the tank Myers who he clearly elevated and held water.
Then he breaks his foot, is in a walking boot while others are training and skating has a poor start on a team without structure, poor communications, awful defence partners and goaltending. While this is happening gets re injured a couple times to the point of having to be shut down.
Now he's defined as a awful hockey player that needs to be bought out?
It's pretty much the same with Boeser.
And while i have gripes with these players with how they compete and engage in the game it's conceivable that they can rehabilitate their values enough to be decent top6 top4 players with Miller and Hronek.
In Boesers case 45-12-23-35 since Jan 1st and basically a even +/- once Tocchet got the structure and systems in check around game 48-50.
A .69ppg (56 p/82) -20 player before vs .78ppg (64 p/82) and even +/- after the new year.
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People making the mistake of thinking the last couple of weeks is how the team will fair next season.
This, after doing the same thing last year.
Folks thinking Hirose will be on the team next year, based on a few meaningless games; probably have McDonough and McWard pencilled in as well.
This, after doing the same thing last year.
Folks thinking Hirose will be on the team next year, based on a few meaningless games; probably have McDonough and McWard pencilled in as well.
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