Canucks News, Rumours, & Fantasy GM | Part 2

[wonton15]

The lack of news here is evident by @Vector 's declining post per day stats.

Should have sold high on this mod.

Huge offseason for him. Hope he works with HF management on a training plan and works on his lateral posting and agility.

 

[Vector]

Written 32 Thoughts:

3. Whatever happened with Pittsburgh and Vancouver and JT Miller is like the “white whale” of NHL reporting. We know it was a hugely-complicated move, very difficult to pull off. But, at the base of it all, the Canucks made a huge ask (as they should): I believe two firsts and a good prospect. At the end of the day, I just don’t think the Penguins wanted to go there.

13. There was a time Vancouver may have considered moving Thatcher Demko this summer, but that’s over after how he played upon return from injury.

14. One of the most-watched players this first round will be Tampa’s Ross Colton. One year to go before unrestricted free-agency, now arbitration-eligible. Teams are always looking for good centres, and the Lightning’s cap situation is tight, tight, tight

 

[Vector]

Yep, he could have been traded for a haul. Let’s hope he has a really big offseason and shows up at camp in great shape.

Huge offseason for him. Hope he works with HF management on a training plan and works on his lateral posting and agility.

Unfortunately I'm going to have the least committed offseason. My 10-year wedding anniversary is on July 1st and I'll be spending 3 weeks in Japan later that month. Sucks to say but I'm the OEL of our board. Right down to the broken foot.

 

[Gstank]

Ross Colton would definitely be interesting but I think the Canucks will look towards Hayton, Glass, Drury when looking at a young C. I think Drury in particular has a lot of the qualities Allvin just talked about. Good at faceoffs, Defensively responsible, buried on the depth chart. I wonder if they would consider a Hoglander for Drury swap

 

[dez]

Ross Colton would be a typical buy high pick up from the Canucks. Hoglander has more pedigree at the NHL level than Drury, it would have to be apart of a bigger package.

 

[Diamonddog01]

One guy that might be worth exploring an offer for is Sissons (aka the better Colton). Check the boxes even more than Gaudreau did and I’d prefer that contract. No idea what Nashville would want and a 1st is too much. I tend to repeat myself but I’m still annoyed they didn’t offersheet Roy last offseason, especially now that Tocchet is the coach. His forechecking & PF game would be very welcome.

Another guy I like for the 3rd line is Fischer from Arizona.

 

[andora]

One guy that might be worth exploring an offer for is Sissons (aka the better Colton). Check the boxes even more than Gaudreau did and I’d prefer that contract. No idea what Nashville would want and a 1st is too much. I tend to repeat myself but I’m still annoyed they didn’t offersheet Roy last offseason, especially now that Tocchet is the coach. His forechecking & PF game would be very welcome.

Another guy I like for the 3rd line is Fischer from Arizona.

Agree on Roy.. perfect fit
Sissons is good to..

 

[orcatown]

LOL who has better numbers away from Pettersson and Miller? You're talking 2 top30 NHL forwards and we know Brock is a scorer not a checker and furthermore the 3rd part of that Miller line the last 2yrs has been Pearson and DiGuiseppe is that another prop player along with poor defense behind them?

Boeser was a competent member of the lotto line you're stuck in a sample size with him hurt and going through mental anguish and it's hard to give him these excuses but until this year i dont think he ever realized how tenuous his career could be and he would be unwanted. His wrist and back has made him adjust his game to being a better playmaker and when/if his wrist can get stronger then he should be able to rack 25-30goals

A motivated Brock will be a decent top 6 scorer next year and is a better bet than Garland or Beauvillier to produce in the top6 going forward. Of course his contract is hefty and a deterrent but it's 2 yrs on a prime aged player who has chemistry and is a glue guy with both Miller and Pettersson

This the kind of thinking that has left the team screwed over, year after year. We've watched Boeser for at least the last couple of years look awful. He's been too slow to generate anything on his own. Most of his scoring is from garbage goals around the net or assists on the PP. (which he has more messed up with his poor passing than anything and he has been a distant second in deserving that role over Kuzmenko) There has been nothing dynamic or upper level in his game or his scoring for years. Yes, if he plays with Miller or Pettersson, he'll get some stats but very, very little comes from anything he is creating.

His defense is mind-blowingly bad. He has been even worse than Horvat on the back check. (he never gets back to strip the puck), his point coverage is likely the worst on the team and he is one of the worst puck watchers in League IMO.

His lack of mobility and overall lack of speed also makes his transition game weak. He simply does not play a 200 foot game and never really has.

When Boeser was drafted, scouts acknowledged he was a poor skater - that's why he fell to later in the first round. Ultimately, that view was borne out even though, at first, his shot and short bursts of speed seemed to overcome that short coming. However, as the injuries have mounted and the speed of the League increased, Boeser has increasingly struggled.

What we're left with is a suspect top 6 player who can't play anywhere else but top 6 in your lineup. I mean Boudreau got so frustrated, he let Boeser drift down the line up but that only emphasized how bad he was without top end support from players like Pettersson. Only when he was returned to be held up by players like Miller did he again show anything.

Yet, in spite of what we've been people live in some sort of idle hope that with a little more effort, little more conditioning, little more chance that Boeser will reemerge as player he seemed at one time. It's this living on hope rather than living in reality that has so sunk the team in the past. For years, we watched the idiot Virtanen mangle every chance he was given and then be told that he only needed more time. Rather than cut our losses and acknowledge the obvious, we carried on with a player that was never going anywhere.

And so it is with Boeser. Boeser has been given ample opportunity to turn his game around. In fact, I would say he's been babied and given far too many excuses. And we are at point, IMO where a decision has to be made. And hope is not a decision - instead it's away of not making a decision. Boeser is too slow and has lost most of the sting on his shot. And he is costing 6.4 on the cap. That is too much. If we sit back and wait for him to show up at camp drastically improved, we are IMO once again avoiding reallocating resources to someone potentially better or to any area of the club in more need of change. And, at that point, it will be too late to do anything about it.

In truth, Boeser should never have been re-signed last summer. It is likely the worst mistake the present regime has made. That cap space was infinitely more valuable and still is. This mistake needs to rectified ASAP. If we can trade Boeser great (even if we have to add - and the fact he probably do is proof enough of why Boeser should be moved). If not, do the difficult but right thing - BUY HIM OUT. It is the hard decision but good organizations are capable of making those hard decisions.

 

[sting101]

This the kind of thinking that has left the team screwed over, year after year. We've watched Boeser for at least the last couple of years look awful. He's been too slow to generate anything on his own. Most of his scoring is from garbage goals around the net or assists on the PP. (which he has more messed up with his poor passing than anything and he has been a distant second in deserving that role over Kuzmenko) There has been nothing dynamic or upper level in his game or his scoring for years. Yes, if he plays with Miller or Pettersson, he'll get some stats but very, very little comes from anything he is creating.

His defense is mind-blowingly bad. He has been even worse than Horvat on the back check. (he never gets back to strip the puck), his point coverage is likely the worst on the team and he is one of the worst puck watchers in League IMO.

His lack of mobility and overall lack of speed also makes his transition game weak. He simply does not play a 200 foot game and never really has.

When Boeser was drafted, scouts acknowledged he was a poor skater - that's why he fell to later in the first round. Ultimately, that view was borne out even though, at first, his shot and short bursts of speed seemed to overcome that short coming. However, as the injuries have mounted and the speed of the League increased, Boeser has increasingly struggled.

What we're left with is a suspect top 6 player who can't play anywhere else but top 6 in your lineup. I mean Boudreau got so frustrated, he let Boeser drift down the line up but that only emphasized how bad he was without top end support from players like Pettersson. Only when he was returned to be held up by players like Miller did he again show anything.

Yet, in spite of what we've been people live in some sort of idle hope that with a little more effort, little more conditioning, little more chance that Boeser will reemerge as player he seemed at one time. It's this living on hope rather than living in reality that has so sunk the team in the past. For years, we watched the idiot Virtanen mangle every chance he was given and then be told that he only needed more time. Rather than cut our losses and acknowledge the obvious, we carried on with a player that was never going anywhere.

And so it is with Boeser. Boeser has been given ample opportunity to turn his game around. In fact, I would say he's been babied and given far too many excuses. And we are at point, IMO where a decision has to be made. And hope is not a decision - instead it's away of not making a decision. Boeser is too slow and has lost most of the sting on his shot. And he is costing 6.4 on the cap. That is too much. If we sit back and wait for him to show up at camp drastically improved, we are IMO once again avoiding reallocating resources to someone potentially better or to any area of the club in more need of change. And, at that point, it will be too late to do anything about it.

In truth, Boeser should never have been re-signed last summer. It is likely the worst mistake the present regime has made. That cap space was infinitely more valuable and still is. This mistake needs to rectified ASAP. If we can trade Boeser great (even if we have to add - and the fact he probably do is proof enough of why Boeser should be moved). If not, do the difficult but right thing - BUY HIM OUT. It is the hard decision but good organizations are capable of making those hard decisions.

Well written Orcatown. I agree that Brock has been nothing short of a disappointment for the last couple years. To be talked about as someone who needs to change his off season work habits and improve his consistency by the GM in an end of season presser tells us all we need to know in how they think about the situation as well. Furthermore they gave the green light for his agent to find Brock a new place to play when he was unhappy. Not exactly an asset with value i get all that.

I'm not a leader of the BB6 fan club as nobody has sweat less for this team the last 2yrs and i was sick of his dreadful act many a nights from Oct to Jan. I'm not excited to be forming an argument for keeping Brock either but i think there is an argument to be made and if i had to choose between Garland and Boeser i would take Boeser.

Here is a 2yr breakdown of Garland vs Boeser against playoff teams as it's my belief that Garland preys on shit teams and the evidence supports it.

The fact remains who will be playing in our top6 that can score and what is Garlands excuse vs what Brock has gone through? What horse is worth betting on given the circumstances?

Garland
22/23- 40-5-15-20......ES = 40-5-8-13
21/22 -37-7-13-20 .....ES = 37-7-12-19

Boeser
22/23 37-12-18-30.....ES = 37-8-12-20
21/22 40-13-14-27.....ES = 40-6-9-15 .(.45ppg over the last 2 yrs)
in the 116 games prior to the injuries and death of his father his *ES production = 113-25-40-65 (.57ppg) * not adjusted to playoff teams

In an ideal world it would be beneficial to have them both gone but having middle sixers who cant hold down top6 scoring roles in Garland and Beauvillier making 9 million is worse than BB6 who at least has a reason for optimism going into next year and has a better contract situation in term and a proven track record.

Furthermore Garland and Beauvillier are easier to replace in our lineup from within at the moment by Hoglander and Podkolzin as they dont play PP1 dont play top6 consistently and are smurfs that get pushed out against better teams. Expecting Hog and Pod to play top6 and PP1 is asking too much going into next season and the market for top6 scorers is dreadful.

Re: buyout ...that's a dumb move. You only save 4 million dollars over 4yrs? If you HAVE to get rid of him just retain salary?

 

[Szechwan]

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13. There was a time Vancouver may have considered moving Thatcher Demko this summer, but that’s over after how he played upon return from injury.

So let me get this straight, this management group was legitimately considering moving him based on a small sample size rough patch, but are now no longer moving him based on a small sample sized good stretch?

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

So let me get this straight, this management group was legitimately considering moving him based on a small sample size rough patch, but are now no longer moving him based on a small sample sized good stretch?

Agreed...that does not make a lick of sense.

JR said that Demko was a franchise goalie before the start of last season...He has a poor start, and then they were apparently considering trading him at his lowest value..?..makes even less sense.

Most of the Demko trade rumours this last season were absolute trash.

 

[sting101]

And for the record i dont see any of those 3 wingers as anything worth clinging to. I would easily move off all 3 for a good 3C top4D or a winger like Markus Foligno so my argument is only about realistic moves vs suddenly teams handing all those 3 value positions with value players in an off season to us which is unlikely especially given that Myers and OEL are such huge components of getting our cap and lineup in order and would take priority. Although it appears OEL will be given a chance to "get his name back" next year

 

[JohnHodgson]

So let me get this straight, this management group was legitimately considering moving him based on a small sample size rough patch, but are now no longer moving him based on a small sample sized good stretch?

Farhan also said Demko wanted out lol.

When it comes to fake rumors and wrong information - Canucks media is definitely top 2 (they aint 2).

 

[andora]

Well written Orcatown. I agree that Brock has been nothing short of a disappointment for the last couple years. To be talked about as someone who needs to change his off season work habits and improve his consistency by the GM in an end of season presser tells us all we need to know in how they think about the situation as well. Furthermore they gave the green light for his agent to find Brock a new place to play when he was unhappy. Not exactly an asset with value i get all that.

I'm not a leader of the BB6 fan club as nobody has sweat less for this team the last 2yrs and i was sick of his dreadful act many a nights from Oct to Jan. I'm not excited to be forming an argument for keeping Brock either but i think there is an argument to be made and if i had to choose between Garland and Boeser i would take Boeser.

Here is a 2yr breakdown of Garland vs Boeser against playoff teams as it's my belief that Garland preys on shit teams and the evidence supports it.

The fact remains who will be playing in our top6 that can score and what is Garlands excuse vs what Brock has gone through? What horse is worth betting on given the circumstances?

Garland
22/23- 40-5-15-20......ES = 40-5-8-13
21/22 -37-7-13-20 .....ES = 37-7-12-19

Boeser
22/23 37-12-18-30.....ES = 37-8-12-20
21/22 40-13-14-27.....ES = 40-6-9-15 .(.45ppg over the last 2 yrs)
in the 116 games prior to the injuries and death of his father his *ES production = 113-25-40-65 (.57ppg) * not adjusted to playoff teams

In an ideal world it would be beneficial to have them both gone but having middle sixers who cant hold down top6 scoring roles in Garland and Beauvillier making 9 million is worse than BB6 who at least has a reason for optimism going into next year and has a better contract situation in term and a proven track record.

Furthermore Garland and Beauvillier are easier to replace in our lineup from within at the moment by Hoglander and Podkolzin as they dont play PP1 dont play top6 consistently and are smurfs that get pushed out against better teams. Expecting Hog and Pod to play top6 and PP1 is asking too much going into next season and the market for top6 scorers is dreadful.

Re: buyout ...that's a dumb move. You only save 4 million dollars over 4yrs? If you HAVE to get rid of him just retain salary?

I am not prone to either guy one way or another but how much would you say context such has linemates ice time and zone starts play into that

It isnt a deafening difference between those two in those numbers.. was just curious

 

[JohnHodgson]

This the kind of thinking that has left the team screwed over, year after year. We've watched Boeser for at least the last couple of years look awful. He's been too slow to generate anything on his own. Most of his scoring is from garbage goals around the net or assists on the PP. (which he has more messed up with his poor passing than anything and he has been a distant second in deserving that role over Kuzmenko) There has been nothing dynamic or upper level in his game or his scoring for years. Yes, if he plays with Miller or Pettersson, he'll get some stats but very, very little comes from anything he is creating.

His defense is mind-blowingly bad. He has been even worse than Horvat on the back check. (he never gets back to strip the puck), his point coverage is likely the worst on the team and he is one of the worst puck watchers in League IMO.

His lack of mobility and overall lack of speed also makes his transition game weak. He simply does not play a 200 foot game and never really has.

When Boeser was drafted, scouts acknowledged he was a poor skater - that's why he fell to later in the first round. Ultimately, that view was borne out even though, at first, his shot and short bursts of speed seemed to overcome that short coming. However, as the injuries have mounted and the speed of the League increased, Boeser has increasingly struggled.

What we're left with is a suspect top 6 player who can't play anywhere else but top 6 in your lineup. I mean Boudreau got so frustrated, he let Boeser drift down the line up but that only emphasized how bad he was without top end support from players like Pettersson. Only when he was returned to be held up by players like Miller did he again show anything.

Yet, in spite of what we've been people live in some sort of idle hope that with a little more effort, little more conditioning, little more chance that Boeser will reemerge as player he seemed at one time. It's this living on hope rather than living in reality that has so sunk the team in the past. For years, we watched the idiot Virtanen mangle every chance he was given and then be told that he only needed more time. Rather than cut our losses and acknowledge the obvious, we carried on with a player that was never going anywhere.

And so it is with Boeser. Boeser has been given ample opportunity to turn his game around. In fact, I would say he's been babied and given far too many excuses. And we are at point, IMO where a decision has to be made. And hope is not a decision - instead it's away of not making a decision. Boeser is too slow and has lost most of the sting on his shot. And he is costing 6.4 on the cap. That is too much. If we sit back and wait for him to show up at camp drastically improved, we are IMO once again avoiding reallocating resources to someone potentially better or to any area of the club in more need of change. And, at that point, it will be too late to do anything about it.

In truth, Boeser should never have been re-signed last summer. It is likely the worst mistake the present regime has made. That cap space was infinitely more valuable and still is. This mistake needs to rectified ASAP. If we can trade Boeser great (even if we have to add - and the fact he probably do is proof enough of why Boeser should be moved). If not, do the difficult but right thing - BUY HIM OUT. It is the hard decision but good organizations are capable of making those hard decisions.

I’m not a huge Boeser guy and wanted to trade him instead of re-signing him but this is kind of a reach.

Here are the facts/conventional opinions:

He was our best forward in the North Division.

He had a huge cap number in his last year (gift from JB), to trigger a high QO.

When we re-signed Boeser, most deemed it a fair contract. When we re-signed Boeser, we didn’t have Beau, Kuzmenko or Mikehyev. He was our best winger considering the C depth (Miller-Petey-Horvat). Obviously with hindsight goggles, it’s easy to scream that Boeser is redundant and maybe our 3rd or 4th best winger.

It’s so easy for people to use hindsight and then say stuff like wow this was a HORRIBLE MISTAKE!!!! What if Boeser turned around and scored 30 goals and 70 points this year?? Everyone would be talking about what a steal of a contract that was.

You can only make the best decisions at that point in time. Boeser was our best winger when he was re-signed.

Even though he had a down year, he’d probably get around$5M on the open market. So all this criticism for someone who’s a little bit overpaid on a bridge contract… just completely unwarranted.

Go direct your anger at Myers or OEL. 13M of wasted cap.

Well written Orcatown. I agree that Brock has been nothing short of a disappointment for the last couple years. To be talked about as someone who needs to change his off season work habits and improve his consistency by the GM in an end of season presser tells us all we need to know in how they think about the situation as well. Furthermore they gave the green light for his agent to find Brock a new place to play when he was unhappy. Not exactly an asset with value i get all that.

I'm not a leader of the BB6 fan club as nobody has sweat less for this team the last 2yrs and i was sick of his dreadful act many a nights from Oct to Jan. I'm not excited to be forming an argument for keeping Brock either but i think there is an argument to be made and if i had to choose between Garland and Boeser i would take Boeser.

Here is a 2yr breakdown of Garland vs Boeser against playoff teams as it's my belief that Garland preys on shit teams and the evidence supports it.

The fact remains who will be playing in our top6 that can score and what is Garlands excuse vs what Brock has gone through? What horse is worth betting on given the circumstances?

Garland
22/23- 40-5-15-20......ES = 40-5-8-13
21/22 -37-7-13-20 .....ES = 37-7-12-19

Boeser
22/23 37-12-18-30.....ES = 37-8-12-20
21/22 40-13-14-27.....ES = 40-6-9-15 .(.45ppg over the last 2 yrs)
in the 116 games prior to the injuries and death of his father his *ES production = 113-25-40-65 (.57ppg) * not adjusted to playoff teams

In an ideal world it would be beneficial to have them both gone but having middle sixers who cant hold down top6 scoring roles in Garland and Beauvillier making 9 million is worse than BB6 who at least has a reason for optimism going into next year and has a better contract situation in term and a proven track record.

Furthermore Garland and Beauvillier are easier to replace in our lineup from within at the moment by Hoglander and Podkolzin as they dont play PP1 dont play top6 consistently and are smurfs that get pushed out against better teams. Expecting Hog and Pod to play top6 and PP1 is asking too much going into next season and the market for top6 scorers is dreadful.

Re: buyout ...that's a dumb move. You only save 4 million dollars over 4yrs? If you HAVE to get rid of him just retain salary?

Agreed. Buyout makes no sense… just retain salary on a trade lmao. Tons of teams would take a flyer on a 26 year old top six F for cheap.

 

[MS]

I am not prone to either guy one way or another but how much would you say context such has linemates ice time and zone starts play into that

It isnt a deafening difference between those two in those numbers.. was just curious

Yes, to me Garland's performance is substantially superior to Boeser's when you factor in that one guy is consistently getting huge minutes with elite players + PP1 time and the other guy is consistently getting middle-6 minutes with much worse players and PP2 time.

 

[ahmon]

To me Garland is comparable to a Arvidsson in La.

Small player who is gritty, has good playmaking, forechecks hard, goes to hard areas and can agitate.

He's a player you can actually potentially win with.



Boeser on the other hand, should be healthy scratched, doesn't create offense, lose puck battles everywhere on the ice and is a huge defensive liability.

Look at the production of Beauvillier when he was playing with Petey/Kuz and then when hes not. Its night and day.

 

[MS]

Look at the production of Beauvillier when he was playing with Petey/Kuz and then when hes not. Its night and day.

Yeah, Beauvillier is kind of a Rosetta Stone into this as he spent 15 games getting Boeser minutes and then 15 games getting Garland minutes and look what happened. He got better results than Boeser in the Boeser minutes and worse results than Garland in the Garland minutes.

 

[m9]

Like Ray Ferraro always said, middle-six forwards will always be streaky. If they weren't, they wouldn't be middle-six forwards.

Beauvillier's output certainly falls in line there.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Farhan also said Demko wanted out lol.

When it comes to fake rumors and wrong information - Canucks media is definitely top 2 (they aint 2).

Farhan has been straight up weird for about a year. It's like he's trying on an "edgy shtick" for size, but he's just coming across as a bit incoherently antagonistic.

 

[Vector]

Was thinking about coaches' ages today.

Rick Bowness (68)
Darryl Suter (64)
John Tortorella (64)
Lindy Ruff (63)
Gerard Gallant (59)
Rick Tocchet (59)
Dean Evason (58)
Lane Lambert (58)
Craig Berube (57)
Bruce Cassidy (57)
Paul Maurice (56)
David Quinn (56)
John Cooper (55)
Don Granato (55)
Todd McLellan (55)
Mike Sullivan (55)
Peter DeBoer (54)
Dave Hakstol (54)
Luke Richardson (54)
Jim Montgomery (53)
Rod Brind'Amour (52)
Jared Bednar (51)
Derek Lalone (50)
John Hynes (48)
Andrey Tourigny (48)
Martin St. Louis (47)
Jay Woodcroft (46)
D.J. Smith (45)
Sheldon Keefe (42)

What spurred this on is Allvin's praise for Colliton and their prior connection. Given Tocchet's age and how he has two years left on his deal, I wonder if that's the succession plan. In two years Colliton will still be younger than any head coach currently employed. Two seasons is a lot of time and so much could happen so this is purely reading tea leaves.

 

[MS]

Was thinking about coaches' ages today.

Rick Bowness (68)
Darryl Suter (64)
John Tortorella (64)
Lindy Ruff (63)
Gerard Gallant (59)
Rick Tocchet (59)
Dean Evason (58)
Lane Lambert (58)
Craig Berube (57)
Bruce Cassidy (57)
Paul Maurice (56)
David Quinn (56)
John Cooper (55)
Don Granato (55)
Todd McLellan (55)
Mike Sullivan (55)
Peter DeBoer (54)
Dave Hakstol (54)
Luke Richardson (54)
Jim Montgomery (53)
Rod Brind'Amour (52)
Jared Bednar (51)
Derek Lalone (50)
John Hynes (48)
Andrey Tourigny (48)
Martin St. Louis (47)
Jay Woodcroft (46)
D.J. Smith (45)
Sheldon Keefe (42)

What spurred this on is Allvin's praise for Colliton and their prior connection. Given Tocchet's age and how he has two years left on his deal, I wonder if that's the succession plan. In two years Colliton will still be younger than any head coach currently employed. Two seasons is a lot of time and so much could happen so this is purely reading tea leaves.

It's actually kind of nuts how so many coaches are born inside of one 5-year window.

Also this must be the oldest group of coaches in NHL history. I've made the point before about how Pat Quinn was 51 in 1994 and seemed ancient but was younger than 'young head coach Travis Green' but in fact Quinn when he first retired from coaching was at an age that would make him one of the youngest coaches in today's NHL.

 

[Vector]

It's actually kind of nuts how so many coaches are born inside of one 5-year window.

Also this must be the oldest group of coaches in NHL history. I've made the point before about how Pat Quinn was 51 in 1994 and seemed ancient but was younger than 'young head coach Travis Green' but in fact Quinn when he first retired from coaching was at an age that would make him one of the youngest coaches in today's NHL.

Funny coincidence that you mention 1994. Two coaches from that season are currently head coaches: Sutter and Bowness. They would have been 36 and 39.

 

[thecupismine]

Man I did not know Tochett was 59 - that dude looks amazing for 59.

 

[JohnHodgson]

Farhan has been straight up weird for about a year. It's like he's trying on an "edgy shtick" for size, but he's just coming across as a bit incoherently antagonistic.

Did you see the questions he was asking at the presser about Millsy and Petey's relationship?

Guy used to be a likeable, and responsible media member.

Not quite sure what happened to him.