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[Mr. Canucklehead]

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Some Important Off-Season Dates

Buyout Period: 48 hours after the SCF; players without NMCs must be placed on unconditional waivers 24 hours prior (another buyout period opens if a team has a player file for arbitration)
Team-Elected Arbitration: 48 hours after the SCF
Draft Day 01: June 28th
Draft Day 02: June 29th
Qualifying Offer Date: July 1st
Free Agency Opens: July 1st
Player-Elected Arbitration: July 5th
Young Stars Classic Tournament: Sep. 13th-16th

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[SeawaterOnIce]

Unlike the fall/winter of 2020, you can rationalize not signing your UFA's and you trust the management group enough to know there's a reason why they aren't bringing some of the guys back (cap reasons, term, cheaper options).

 

[StrictlyCommercial]

Unlike the fall/winter of 2020, you can rationalize not signing your UFA's and you trust the management group enough to know there's a reason why they aren't bringing some of the guys back (cap reasons, term, cheaper options).

The big difference is we had cap space and the players (Tanev/Toffoli) wanted reasonable deals.

 

[kcunac]

Hronek, Mikheyev, Poolman to SJ for Pitts 1st rounder.

 

[Bgav]

Hronek, Mikheyev, Poolman to SJ for Pitts 1st rounder.

Why on earth would Pitts do this lol

 

[Vector]

Why on earth would Pitts do this lol

Well...they traded their 1st to San Jose as part of the Karlsson package. So that's why they initially did it. At this point, they no longer have control over the pick and San Jose could decide that acquiring Hronek and signing him to a big contract is more palatable than chasing someone in free agency,

 

[Deeds26]

Going to pray to our overlord, @Vector , that something happens today in the form of re-signing or trade (unlikely due to it being Cup Finals).

I need something to discuss and over analyze.

 

[Vector]

Going to pray to our overlord, @Vector , that something happens today in the form of re-signing or trade (unlikely due to it being Cup Finals).

I need something to discuss and over analyze.

I am so damn bored.

 

[kcunac]

Why on earth would Pitts do this lol

SJ could do it because they have no puck-moving top 4 defenseman and it is very difficult to get one, especially one with a RHS. Hronek should be worth more than a first and probably more than what we paid for him since he just had his best season.

 

[Bgav]

SJ could do it because they have no puck-moving top 4 defenseman and it is very difficult to get one, especially one with a RHS. Hronek should be worth more than a first and probably more than what we paid for him since he just had his best season.

I forgot the sharks have the pick but... they are so far from being a playoff team. I cant see them trading a first-rounder. Unless they hire Jim Benning

 

[Jerry the great]

Chatfield looked like a career AHLer on the Canucks and literally nobody thought otherwise at the time.

Any chance you have a reference for that comparison because that’s not how I remember it. My memory of Chatfield is that he had great mobility and was a fearless player but could get out of position or cough up the puck too much to be a reliable defender. So definitely not like Tanev on those two key points.

The Tanev comparisons pre-dated his time with the Canucks in the bubble. Canucks' army guys were the ones pushing that narrative:

 

[kcunac]

I forgot the sharks have the pick but... they are so far from being a playoff team. I cant see them trading a first-rounder. Unless they hire Jim Benning

They still have their own first rounder. They need quality players. Utah could be another option, in that case for their 2nd and 3rd, but Utah already has Durzi so I see it as less of a fit. Is SJS going to draft celebrini and have him play in front of that same defense?

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

I need something to discuss and over analyze.

My new barbeque is coming in today! The most I've ever spent on one....

Edit: Some news, not so good news I guess.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800929305624822037

 

[Vector]

I forgot the sharks have the pick but... they are so far from being a playoff team. I cant see them trading a first-rounder. Unless they hire Jim Benning

There's some rumblings that they want to upgrade their defence, possibly add a guy who can play on the powerplay, so Celebrini and Smith aren't coming into a total tire fire. If you squint, Hronek fits. Doesn't actually make a lot of sense timeline-wise and they'd probably have to overpay him on his contract.

 

[Lindgren]

I am so damn bored.

Did either of those unsigned draft picks you were curious about sign somewhere?

 

[Vector]

Did either of those unsigned draft picks you were curious about sign somewhere?

Not a single one.

 

[Lat]

My new barbeque is coming in today! The most I've ever spent on one....

Edit: Some news, not so good news I guess.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800929305624822037

My Genesis is 15 years old and I expect it to last a lifetime.
Anyhow, did the BBQ salesman have any juicy rumours to share?


WRT to Lindholm, that was a non-issue to me and I had zero expectations of an extension.
The Joshua news is more concerning to me.

 

[Vector]

Not Canucks related at all really but...it's something. Other than the McDonough trade, no team has done anything of significance.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

There's some rumblings that they want to upgrade their defence, possibly add a guy who can play on the powerplay, so Celebrini and Smith aren't coming into a total tire fire. If you squint, Hronek fits. Doesn't actually make a lot of sense timeline-wise and they'd probably have to overpay him on his contract.

If San Jose wants to upgrade their defense, I bet they could land Jacob Trouba with a significant sweetener. This is the off-season he loses his NMC and I'm sure the Rangers want that cap space back.

 

[Bgav]

They still have their own first rounder. They need quality players. Utah could be another option, in that case for their 2nd and 3rd, but Utah already has Durzi so I see it as less of a fit. Is SJS going to draft celebrini and have him play in front of that same defense?

There’s a ton of RH dmen in ufa this year - if I were them I would just sign Roy or someone and keep the first

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

Chatfield looked like a career AHLer on the Canucks and literally nobody thought otherwise at the time.

Yup, actually that is not true but good on you for mis-remembering.

 

[Vector]

If San Jose wants to upgrade their defense, I bet they could land Jacob Trouba with a significant sweetener. This is the off-season he loses his NMC and I'm sure the Rangers want that cap space back.

There are several other options that make a lot more sense. Take on an asset and acquire Torey Krug, if he'll waive, is another example.

 

[Bonham]

7x8M for Lindholm would be awful.

Glad to hear that Management is not persuaded by sunk cost and are willing to move on. He is 30 years old and is on a steady downward trajectory. It is the type of deal that can slam a window shut and will be regrettable the moment it is signed.

 

[Diversification]

Looks like it might be time to trade Lindholm's rights to Boston and then flip that to CAR for Guentzel's rights.

 

[bossram]

Unlike the fall/winter of 2020, you can rationalize not signing your UFA's and you trust the management group enough to know there's a reason why they aren't bringing some of the guys back (cap reasons, term, cheaper options).

I mean, yeah.

If the player is fundamentally not worth the contract, let him go. And then go find other guys who are undervalued. I think Allvin grasps this, and it's good. Very refreshing from the Benning era.

As @StrictlyCommercial said, the difference with Benning and Toffol/Tanev was they asked for and eventually signed very reasonable deals.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

My new barbeque is coming in today! The most I've ever spent on one....

Edit: Some news, not so good news I guess.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800929305624822037

Is that the Shea model?

Lindholm wasn't going to work out. They made an offer and time to move on.

It's also not surprising that there are now rumblings Hronek could be trade before or at the Draft if an extension isn't done. Since I don't expect an extension, seems like he will be dealt.