I will check between the cushions on my couch, but my crippling student debt says probably not.
Canucks Management and Ownership Thread v30.0 (Post #186)
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I will check between the cushions on my couch, but my crippling student debt says probably not.
Ooh, if so, I may actually be able to help out:
Who will make comics for us then?
AwesomeInTheory
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They have probably always been bad, but only so much comes out at a time. I also think they probably have gotten worse as time has gone by.
sting101
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i just don't get them wanting a successful tenant and team equating to them being bad owners.
i mean they might be bad people (i don't know). they may be misguided on who to hire (Linden Gillis)
but is it fair to begrudge them for spending to the cap and give their President and GM a mandate to put a good product on the ice? especially considering before the goalie fiasco they had committed to career contracts for the Sedin's Luongo Burrows etc
weren't they good owners in 2008 2011 2013 when they had to fly to Florida to talk Luongo off a cliff? when did things go bad?
That could be the case... but I'd like to point it's not hard to be a 'good' owner when we were raking in as much cash as we were during the teams peak. I mean we climbed as high as what, 3rd in the league in revenues at $150 million a year or something like that? In a salary cap league were player rosters are capped at 60-70M?
Pretty easy to be generous in that situation. Aquilini bought in with the team during the good times, then saw the team quickly rise to a new peak. We'll see start to see how far his generosity extends when the team is being pressed financially.
Our GM, coach and president can be bad at their jobs (I don't believe they are), but the ownership on their back needs to stop. I don't believe for a second Benning is making these trades because he 100% believes it's right for the organization. He says he wants draft picks, that's his bread and butter, but he ends up trading so many? The only reason I see him trading them are for immediate help because owners want playoff money. Regardless if our management is bad or not, it's so hard to do your job when there is pressure from above.
Im glad they spend to the cap, but I wish they would just let the people they hire do their job and not pressure them into making trades that will hurt them. There's hardly any pressure from ownership on teams like Chicago, New York, LA, Detroit, etc and they are successful for long periods of time.
Im glad they spend to the cap, but I wish they would just let the people they hire do their job and not pressure them into making trades that will hurt them. There's hardly any pressure from ownership on teams like Chicago, New York, LA, Detroit, etc and they are successful for long periods of time.
mathonwy
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Jimbo is getting us immediate help?
Who is this immediate help you're referring to?
Etem? Vey? Prust?
Jimson Hogarth*
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Even if ownership is pushing management to make the team better now, the actual trades that are made (in terms of value) are the responsibility of the GM. Benning has gotten terrible value in most of his trades to the point that it's actually shocking when he makes a fair trade.
y2kcanucks
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When one says immediate help, usually those players are actually helpful. Granlund is still a replacement level player.
BloatedGuppy
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Ownership Pros - Willing to spent to the cap, buy-out/bury contracts "for the good of the team", pay big in UFA
Ownership Minuses - They appear to "have ideas" about how the on-ice product should be constructed. May be playing the role of GM behind the scenes.
My guess to this question? Could be when the owners apparently forced Gillis to hire Torts, when he apparently wanted to have nothing to do with him...and then firing Gillis when it didn't work out....followed by hiring three guys, Linden, Benning and Willie with 'zero' NHL experience....now if the radio guys are to be believed, he doesn't even trust his underlings to make a major trade. If all is true, then that might explain everything.
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y2kcanucks
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Very interesting comments.
Some ppl on here have said this in the last. Essentially Aquilini or Benning chose JV and scouting chose the likes of McCann, Demko and Tryamkin
Hmmmm....
So much for crediting Benning with McCann (funny how that credit has stopped since he was dealt and apparently is now a bust since he's in a different uniform), Demko, and Tryamkin.
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