Friedman: Canucks give Brock Boeser's agent the permission to speak with other teams

[Nucker101]

Lambos? Greenway? Are these proposals for real?

Gee, I wonder if Minny would part ways with Rossi and Kaprizov?


Man are some of the Canucks fans in this thread out to lunch on Boeser’s trade value. Prepare to be disappointed.

 

[M2Beezy]

So according to boeser himself talking about how he wasn't in lineup, and only in lineup because of another injury doesn't mean he was benched? There has been other times he didn't play and benched by Bruce. Stip lying because fakenews , make belief, trolling people like you are tiring

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“It was a very important game for me and my family, so when I came in this morning and my name wasn’t on the white board it hurt - it hurt bad,” says Brock Boeser of being an almost healthy scratch on Hockey Fights Cancer night. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Canucks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#Canucks</a></p>&mdash; Thomas Drance (@ThomasDrance) <a href="">December 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

"Almost benched" is not the same as benched.

He was not benched, stop trying to push an agenda that does not exist, bub. Admit you were wrong, or dont - I couldnt possibly care, but you keep responding and further digging your hole in this argument

And interesting to call me a troll well I have been posting here within the rules for over 8 years and you have been here a few months well throwing around the troll term every post

Brock Boeser has had his ups and downs esp considering off ice family issues and losses, but still piles up the points when he plays, and has one of the longest point streaks of the season so far

 

[Hoglander]

So basically, VAN management is like "Hey Brock, can you get your agent to come up with a trade for you, because we are too incompetent to do it ourselves".

 

[KingBogo]

Dillon maybe. Canucks really don't need another LHD, though Dillon would at least bring a different type of LHD to the mix. A type they could use. Dillon has played a little bit on his off side previously as well, has he not?

Schmidt doesn't work though.



Schmidt is basically a non-starter. I don't think either the Canucks, nor Schmidt himself would want anything to do with running that one back. It was just a really poor fit. Some different people involved on the Canucks side now, but it was just not a fit at all and i don't think enough has changed for anybody to think it's worth trying again.

Dillon might work, but i'm not entirely sure Winnipeg would want to move a guy like that, heading toward the playoffs. Seems like exactly the sort of guy teams usually like to go out and add at the deadline. Not subtract.






I'd do this, from a Canucks perspective. They really don't need a similar goal-scoring winger who requires top PP time and doesn't do a lot else. They're already overflowing with wingers, even with guys like Pearson on the shelf, there still isn't room for a guy like Podkolzin in the lineup every night.

But i'd still do the deal, see how Olofsson fits in, and look at moving him if/when it doesn't really work. At this point, Boeser clearly just needs a change of scenery. Something isn't working in Vancouver...and Olofsson is a pretty comparable player. Boeser might have a bit more "name value" but Olofsson's contract is probably a bit easier to make a trade with (easier to fit into more cap situations, bigger market) so it's pretty close to a wash, with a 4th thrown in, i'd say that's fair.

I didn't realize the bridge was burned that badly with Schmidt. But if we were to move a defenseman he is the one I think the Jets would want to move. Jets D is a bit on the smaller size, and Dillon is needed for his size and willingness to have an aggressive edge. DeMelo, is 2nd to Morrissey in his ability to play defense. He is also used to baby sit any D prospects brought into the lineup.

Maybe something more futures based if salary is retained on Boeser.

 

[Wandering Cynic]

To Vancouver:
Josh Anderson (1 mil retained)
Arber Xhekaj

To Montreal:
Brock Boeser
Jack Rathbone

 

[oceanchild]

So according to boeser himself talking about how he wasn't in lineup, and only in lineup because of another injury doesn't mean he was benched? There has been other times he didn't play and benched by Bruce. Stip lying because fakenews , make belief, trolling people like you are tiring

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“It was a very important game for me and my family, so when I came in this morning and my name wasn’t on the white board it hurt - it hurt bad,” says Brock Boeser of being an almost healthy scratch on Hockey Fights Cancer night. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Canucks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#Canucks</a></p>&mdash; Thomas Drance (@ThomasDrance) <a href="">December 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Your being intellectually dishonest, he was not in fact scratched, he did play. He came close, like someone who almost crashed a car, did you or did you not. Yes those details matter, that it almost happens matters, but it didnt happen at that is the factual result. As for this benching nonsense, he has not been benched or scratched. Has be maybe missed a few shifts because the coach wants his to pick it up, sure. Almost velvety NHLer has had a coach try and get them going at some point, so it means nothing.

The attempt to convince us with a flimsy argument that your narrative holds water, while calling out others is suspect. Perhaps we can deal in facts, like his production rate which is that of a solid second liner, that he is a good team mate, that he can score at the NHL level consistently.. does his game have warts, sure. I don’t see Wayne Gretzky’s name on the Selke Trophy but it doesn’t mean he isn’t the great one.

 

[oceanchild]

I think a different narrative is being missed by the group that is down on this guy and looking at his agents involvement as a bad thing. This kid just lost his dad, it’s all on the record and doesn’t need to be rehashed. So if they traded him, potentially a bunch of backlash could be waiting. Not to mention he probably rebounds and it will look like they got poor value for him and open them up to the arm chair GMs for critical and unflattering analysis.

BUT, if this a we both know he needed a change, out of respect we worked with him, he’s a good kid and a good player and he just needed a reset, and they let him pick a destination. That’s what a first class organization does, that’s how you defend yourself from the potential of this blowing up in your face. What your seeing here is sage and the kind of thing that comes from experience.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

So basically, VAN management is like "Hey Brock, can you get your agent to come up with a trade for you, because we are too incompetent to do it ourselves".

tbh it’s more, we need you to meet with other GMs and show them that you are committed and have a plan to get your head back into the game, and also a plan for how to get physically better

i love brock but he is damaged goods. if i am a GM potentially bringing him on at that cap hit and for two more years after this, i would need to have that discussion with him before i even consider going down any roads with allvin.

 

[BKarchitect]

To Vancouver:
Josh Anderson (1 mil retained)
Arber Xhekaj

To Montreal:
Brock Boeser
Jack Rathbone

I doubt the Habs are willing to give up that much toughness in one deal.

Xhekaj for Rathbone would be a non-starter for them as well...they have plenty of young defenseman to play the Rathbone role (and better ones frankly). Arber is a unique cat and his value internally to the Habs combined with his rate of progression would make him one of their inner circle assets.

 

[Double Dion]

I'd do Lucic for Boeser and a 2nd in 2023. Lucic expires this year.

 

[ffh]

Boeser has no value with that contract. The Canucks overpaid him at the time and healthy scratching him now basically kills any sort of value he might have.

Nobody’s value goes down based on his last few games

 

[Slats432]

The proposals in this thread are insane. People thinking they can get a 60 point NHL guy who is 25 years old for free, basically.

"He has no value." Nuts.

 

[Nucker42]

Lambos? Greenway? Are these proposals for real?

Gee, I wonder if Minny would part ways with Rossi and Kaprizov?


Man are some of the Canucks fans in this thread out to lunch on Boeser’s trade value. Prepare to be disappointed.

It goes both ways, lot of clowns out there saying the guy has no value. Just coming on a 9 game point street. Average 65 points a season, I missed when those players started growing on trees?

Obviously Lambos and Rossi are no touch, but Greenway? 99% of Canucks followers would touch a 1 for 1 deal for him.

Just needs to be brought down a touch by both fan bases.

 

[biturbo19]

I didn't realize the bridge was burned that badly with Schmidt. But if we were to move a defenseman he is the one I think the Jets would want to move. Jets D is a bit on the smaller size, and Dillon is needed for his size and willingness to have an aggressive edge. DeMelo, is 2nd to Morrissey in his ability to play defense. He is also used to baby sit any D prospects brought into the lineup.

Maybe something more futures based if salary is retained on Boeser.

I mean, i don't know for sure. But the way Schmidt left, he was pretty darn frustrated with the way things had gone, and made some pretty clear comments to that effect, fairly publicly. And the Canucks were pretty happy to just wash their hands of it and move on.

The coach and management have changed, but a lot of the team is still the same. I just can't seem Schmidt slinking back into that locker room after the way it went last time, and the way he left. The personnel dynamics of that would just be real awkward. And despite new management, it never really seemed like Schmidt and his personality fit in with the city/market and the organization as a whole in Vancouver. That stuff hasn't really changed much.

To Vancouver:
Josh Anderson (1 mil retained)
Arber Xhekaj

To Montreal:
Brock Boeser
Jack Rathbone

I'd be into this from Vancouver's end, but i can't see Montreal actually offering something like that. Especially not giving up that much size and grit, for two super soft skill guys.

 

[AKL]

It goes both ways, lot of clowns out there saying the guy has no value. Just coming on a 9 game point street. Average 65 points a season, I missed when those players started growing on trees?

Obviously Lambos and Rossi are no touch, but Greenway? 99% of Canucks followers would touch a 1 for 1 deal for him.

Just needs to be brought down a touch by both fan bases.

How can he average 65 points per season when he's never scored more than 56 points in a season?

 

[Warh1ppy]

We don't have the cap space for him, we only have 1.5 million available. The only reason Fabbro is even remotely being talked about is because with him, Carrier, and Jeanott all needing contracts next season it's going to be rough to fit it all. So adding that contract in isn't going to happen.

Lets be honest here, if Poile was willing to give up Fabbro for him the deal would have already been done, not being sat in his agents lap.

Not saying it would happen. Just ballparking it due to team needs heard via rumour wires

 

[BLONG7]

Simmonds + Engvall + Kerfoot + 2nd for Boeser

LOL......................Nucks fans are gonna love this one....throw in Mete and an AHL goalie, just for fun. I mean how could the Nucks refuse...

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

I don’t know why they didn’t just deal Boeser and Miller. Makes you wonder if Rutherford is an idiot or if ownership interfered.

Both

I'd do Lucic for Boeser and a 2nd in 2023. Lucic expires this year.

lol I’m sure you would.

As a Canucks fan, Lucic can go f*** himself. Want nothing to do with him let alone give up a 2nd as well.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

I'd do Lucic for Boeser and a 2nd in 2023. Lucic expires this year.

and we're giving up a 2nd, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[CascadiaPuck]

I am surprised you still haven’t been banned for trolling yet, especially when it comes to spreading false information.

Your post history is mostly consisted of comments to get people worked up. Is that the only way you can get attention? It’s pretty sad.

It wouldn’t be a main board Canucks thread without that poster trolling it. Treat it as performance art and it actually becomes hilarious.

 

[Jannik Hansen]

Ok but don’t just parrot advanced stats either. There’s likely a reason for it.

And again, 6.65M for 3 years really isn’t that bad for someone who has 65 points and bad advanced stats. If that’s the floor, it’s a really a fine contract. There are far worse out there.

So the flyer I referred to is not : it either becomes a terrible contract or an ok one ….the flyer is it is an okay contract or a good one if he can return to form.

Advanced stats are so overused it’s crazy…every once and a while I’ll see someone post a chart like the one you did and then go to form a whole opinion on a player based on that alone.

You still have a disdain for analytics despite the last 3 Cup winners?

 

[Nucker42]

How can he average 65 points per season when he's never scored more than 56 points in a season?

Sorry thought this was obvious, based on an 82 games schedule. If you dislike the player then why engage on a trade forum involving him?

 

[AKL]

Sorry thought this was obvious, based on an 82 games schedule. If you dislike the player then why engage on a trade forum involving him?

6 seasons and he's never played a full 82 game season, so why would you base his production off that?

 

[BLONG7]

What happened here guys, Brock and Bruce having issues? Has he been bad recently? Did he deserve to be scratched?

 

[The don godfather]

Zona and nucks match made in heaven. Boesar for chychrun plus other parts going back and forth.