Friedman: Canucks give Brock Boeser's agent the permission to speak with other teams

[NewEraGM]

Totally fair

My rule is generally you have the three catagories:
- Points / production
- Fancy stats
- Eye test

If a guy passes 2 of 3, I’d put less wait on the other. If he fails 2 of 3 - good chance the other is an outlier.

Brock’s production looks fine on the surface. His analytics suck. And he fails the eye test. One doesn’t need to spend much time in Canucks GDT posts to realize this.

I mean, he’s not being potentially shopped because he’s playing well. He’s being shopped because he’s playing bad.

He’s been a good player before. And has gone through some shit to put it lightly. But he’s also looked slower than ever due to injuries and this league is hard on players who have lost a step. Risky and tricky deal for both Vancouver and any suitor I would say. I have no idea what a deal would be structured like to be honest or what his value actually is on the trade market.

Yea I hear y’a. I just think a change of scenery would be the best thing for him and it would do wonders for him. The team has been through big ups and downs (mostly downs), COVID, Family illness….like I just think if anyone can benefit from a change, it’s him.

As another teams GM, I would look at the whole story with Brock and try to buy low on him. He’s shown he can produce. He’s a 25-30 goal scorer. He has pedigree and a good history. As for the injuries, I’m not sure what they entail to be honest but players can come back from those. And the contract I really don’t think is that bad. It’s 2.5 more years.

 

[KingBogo]

Schmidt? Dillon? From the outside seems like Jets have surplus of quality LHD.

Schmidt would be the choice of most Jets and he primarily plays on the right side. His contract is similar at $5.95 M and same length as Boeser's. He is mostly playing on the 3rd pair for the Jets behind DeMelo and Pionk. It would have the side benefit of opening up a spot for Heinola who has outgrown the AHL, and is ready to move up to the NHL roster.

 

[Peter Griffin]

If this club was smart, they would deal Horvat first then move Boeser up the lineup and try and build his value….

They’re probably looking to shed Boeser in order to give Horvat an 8 X $8M contract extension.

 

[Love]

Once again in Vancouver we have a management group who’s number one rule of business is buy high sell low

 

[Connor McConnor]

Schmidt would be the choice of most Jets and he primarily plays on the right side. His contract is similar at $5.95 M and same length as Boeser's. He is mostly playing on the 3rd pair for the Jets behind DeMelo and Pionk. It would have the side benefit of opening up a spot for Heinola who has outgrown the AHL, and is ready to move up to the NHL roster.

Why in the World would either party want a return to Vancouver for Schmidt after the way it ended when he got traded?

 

[34]

very odd trade tactic. Maybe he wants to go home to Minnesota.

 

[57special]

very odd trade tactic. Maybe he wants to go home to Minnesota.

MN would like to have him, as there is a gaping hole on Boldy's other wing currently being filled by AHL'ers such as Petan and Cramarossa. Unfortunately, they also have a 15M cap penalty over the next two years, which makes affording him problematic. I mean, they would've kept Fiala if they wanted a scoring winger.

 

[McJedi]

After being a healthy scratch, I’m sure Vancouver fans will scream at me Boeser still gets a 1st plus.

Laughing out loud at the Vancouver projections of value on this awful contract.

Dude has no value at that AAV and term.

Vancouver either retains at least $1.65mm per or takes back a bad contract with a few years left on it. That’s how a Boeser trade will eventually look.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

After being a healthy scratch, I’m sure Vancouver fans will scream at me Boeser still gets a 1st plus.

Laughing out loud at the Vancouver projections of value on this awful contract.

Dude has no value at that AAV and term.

Vancouver either retains at least $1.65mm per or takes back a bad contract with a few years left on it. That’s how a Boeser trade will eventually look.

Beginning to think your right on this, sadly.

 

[WolfgangPuck]

Schmidt would be the choice of most Jets and he primarily plays on the right side. His contract is similar at $5.95 M and same length as Boeser's. He is mostly playing on the 3rd pair for the Jets behind DeMelo and Pionk. It would have the side benefit of opening up a spot for Heinola who has outgrown the AHL, and is ready to move up to the NHL roster.

Don’t think Canucks want Schmidt back. Pionk’s contract is similar too. Willing to take a flyer on Boeser and trade either Schmidt or Pionk This would open roster for Ville with the parent club

 

[canadianmagpie]

After being a healthy scratch, I’m sure Vancouver fans will scream at me Boeser still gets a 1st plus.

Laughing out loud at the Vancouver projections of value on this awful contract.

Dude has no value at that AAV and term.

Vancouver either retains at least $1.65mm per or takes back a bad contract with a few years left on it. That’s how a Boeser trade will eventually look.

He wasn't a healthy scratch. He was supposed to be but ending up scoring.

MN would like to have him, as there is a gaping hole on Boldy's other wing currently being filled by AHL'ers such as Petan and Cramarossa. Unfortunately, they also have a 15M cap penalty over the next two years, which makes affording him problematic. I mean, they would've kept Fiala if they wanted a scoring winger.

If the Canucks could move Myers, I wouldn't mind getting Dumba from Minnesota.

 

[KingBogo]

Don’t think Canucks want Schmidt back. Pionk’s contract is similar too. Willing to take a flyer on Boeser and trade either Schmidt or Pionk This would open roster for Ville with the parent club

Except Pionk is a significantly better player and too much to take a flyer on Boeser.

 

[Ita]

After being a healthy scratch

I am surprised you still haven’t been banned for trolling yet, especially when it comes to spreading false information.

Your post history is mostly consisted of comments to get people worked up. Is that the only way you can get attention? It’s pretty sad.

 

[Classic16]

Except Pionk is a significantly better player and too much to take a flyer on Boeser.

Jets rw is so thin I can't see them not being interested. Maybe Demelo +

 

[Gstank]

Jets rw is so thin I can't see them not being interested. Maybe Demelo +

Demelo, 2023 2nd and Riechel?

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Olofsson for Boeser? Edit: with little tweaks.

 

[Gstank]

Olofsson for Boeser?

I would think we would prefer some kind of prospect or pick as well

 

[Adele Dazeem]

MN would like to have him, as there is a gaping hole on Boldy's other wing currently being filled by AHL'ers such as Petan and Cramarossa. Unfortunately, they also have a 15M cap penalty over the next two years, which makes affording him problematic. I mean, they would've kept Fiala if they wanted a scoring winger.

Fiala cost way more. I think the Wild could get him with some creative cap moves.

 

[Canuck86]

He was scratched, every media reported it. We're not in a galaxy

No shit sherlock, Boudreau also scratched Garland earlier in the year and said there was multiple players he considered benching when it came to Boeser. Boeser is producing points wise but think with all he has dealt with regarding his dad and now his passing ALONG with Boudreau not playing Boeser in the top 6 the current Canuck coach doesn't favour him this year...last season Boeser did quite well hafter Boudreau took over but with Kuzmenko and Mikheyev attached to Pettersson's hip and the reluctance to put Boeser with JT and Bo its understandable why Boeser would be unhappy with where he stands with the Canucks. 3rd line winger and 2nd PP unit is not what he would like and its miscasting Boeser by the coach too.

Hope they don't give him away and take a contract back like we did moving Dickinson and a 2nd to bring in Stillman and his contract of the same length just 1m in savings...when we had a plethora of LHD we coul have used before ever trading for Stillman...

New management, same poor roster decision making...will it ever change in Vancouver!? I hope so...

 

[Canucks LB]

I still think the Dumba for Brock Boeser just makes a whole ton of sense.

Brock gets close to his family, and I feel would work really well with Kaprizov.

If dumba plays well, keep him in Vancouver, it’s a much needed role.

And if he still struggles, you take the cap space at the end of the year.

Just seems pretty logical, I’m not sure on the wilds needs though

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

Inb4 Boeser for like a 4th and a 5th.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

Let the lowballs commence

Funny first thing I thought was “Here comes the overpayment demands”.

 

[Bankerguy]

Boeser has 271 points in 343 career games, that would be like a 65 point pace assuming he plays an 82 game schedule. with 30 goals in those 82 games. This is playing on a really bad team.
he's 25 yrs old 3 years left 6.65M
Problem is he doesn't usually play all 82 games. Bit injury prone. Nice hair
I think he should be able to score a decent return. I bet that if he went to a playoff caliber team, he'll play at a better pace. 75 - 80 point pace, 35 goals if he stays healthy.
The injury this year was a freak hand issue that is healed. not a lingering injury that would likely pop up again like a concussion or shoulder, hip etc.

 

[oceanchild]

Oh right, because no one one can read. He was scratched tonight before late injury put him in

Almost being scratched once, isn’t the same as benched multiple times.

 

[biturbo19]

Schmidt? Dillon? From the outside seems like Jets have surplus of quality LHD.

Dillon maybe. Canucks really don't need another LHD, though Dillon would at least bring a different type of LHD to the mix. A type they could use. Dillon has played a little bit on his off side previously as well, has he not?

Schmidt doesn't work though.

Schmidt would be the choice of most Jets and he primarily plays on the right side. His contract is similar at $5.95 M and same length as Boeser's. He is mostly playing on the 3rd pair for the Jets behind DeMelo and Pionk. It would have the side benefit of opening up a spot for Heinola who has outgrown the AHL, and is ready to move up to the NHL roster.

Schmidt is basically a non-starter. I don't think either the Canucks, nor Schmidt himself would want anything to do with running that one back. It was just a really poor fit. Some different people involved on the Canucks side now, but it was just not a fit at all and i don't think enough has changed for anybody to think it's worth trying again.

Dillon might work, but i'm not entirely sure Winnipeg would want to move a guy like that, heading toward the playoffs. Seems like exactly the sort of guy teams usually like to go out and add at the deadline. Not subtract.

To:
RW Boeser ($6.65M UFA 2025/26)

To
LW/RW Olofsson ($4.75M UFA 2024/25)
2024 4th RND pick

Who says no?

Olofsson for Boeser? Edit: with little tweaks.

I'd do this, from a Canucks perspective. They really don't need a similar goal-scoring winger who requires top PP time and doesn't do a lot else. They're already overflowing with wingers, even with guys like Pearson on the shelf, there still isn't room for a guy like Podkolzin in the lineup every night.

But i'd still do the deal, see how Olofsson fits in, and look at moving him if/when it doesn't really work. At this point, Boeser clearly just needs a change of scenery. Something isn't working in Vancouver...and Olofsson is a pretty comparable player. Boeser might have a bit more "name value" but Olofsson's contract is probably a bit easier to make a trade with (easier to fit into more cap situations, bigger market) so it's pretty close to a wash, with a 4th thrown in, i'd say that's fair.



From a Vancouver perspective...something built around a guy who could play #3C for them would probably make more sense. Someone like Girgensons maybe...but there's a significant value gap from him to Olofsson, so the "+" would have to be an actual prospect or pick, rather than a 4th round throw-in.