That hand eye by Pettersson in OT to pick off Meier’s flip to go in 2 on 1 was so nasty.
Post-Game Talk: Canucks def. Sharks - 4-3 (OT) (Burroughs, Mikheyev, Pettersson, Kuzmenko)
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mriswith
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I'm still holding my breath on him staying healthy this year but his resurgence is so massive for this team. He's back to the two way monster that he was in his second season but stronger and smarter. Despite being on a 100 point pace it still feels like he has less points than he should this year given the chances he's been generating.
Now I'm just waiting for him to add the dangles from his first season back to his game.
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Given the way the team was fading in the third saw no way for a comeback. A couple of players dug deep and got the team out of the ditch. Team has skill and seems to adding grit. No master piece but maybe in the process of seeing our season saved.
Pettersson - the legend is building. HIs commitment is absolute and we don't win without both his skill and his tenacity. Great game
Kuzmenko - his OT winner is likely the highlight of the season. Somehow you knew game was over as soon as he broke for the net. A must re-sign at this point. What a breath of fresh air! How high is the ceiling on this player??
Myers - his game is moving up. Still prone to the big time gaffe but he is playing harder and is pushing the play up the ice. Too bad he can't ever score on his chances but he is playing bigger around his net and really extending his zone of coverage. When Burroughs faded in the third, Myers had to take over coverage for most of the area from the circles in.
MIkhayev - if he can just build off his scoring lately and start tucking away the chances he is getting, his line will be very dangerous. Chemistry seems to building and the talent is there.
Demko - good game. Something to build off of. Couple of the goals against were flukey and he had to come up with huge saves to keep the team in it. Wide open question as to who you start next game.
Garland - never stopped competing. Drove the play and helped late in third with the team on the ropes. One of the only ones providing the energy to get some o-zone time. Did his best to keep his line from totally falling apart.
Miller - had some ups and downs in the game but worked the PP well (even though it didn't score) and pass on the winner was elite.
Not So Good
Boeser - mostly a passenger and not a very good one. Does some dinky little things with his stick but he was getting left two zones behind the play in transition. Play in his end is just horrible. Waves his stick at people occasionally another wise mostly stands still and watches. His point is always open and when player slide up his side on the cycle he never does anything but briefly move towards them. Player loves no contact hockey and I guess he would say after this game -"Well I was tired, you know" - like everyone else wasn't??? Polar opposite to Pettersson in terms of commitment. Either that or he simply cannot skate well enough to be in the League.
Lazar - guy is suppose to provide forechecking and good defense. Provided neither in this game. Aman constantly covering for this player who again was lugging around. In the late Shark blitz, he went AWOL and was the principle reasons his line had trouble. At this point, I think you could make a case that Lockwood could replace him. At least Lockwood has the wheels to stay firmly in the play and likely produce some offense (of which Lazar provides none). History on Lazar has been that he can't provide enough over any length of time to stay in the League. Might be he is slipping back towards a home in the AHL. IMO not close to being good enough. You could find things about Hoglander's play to fault but his try is there. I don't see the same out of Lazar and don't see him accomplishing much of anything.
Schenn - has tailed off in the last couple of games. Has had to bear a ton of weight this year and I think it's beginning to tell. Making a lot of plays from deep in his zone instead of having the speed to move up and shorten his passes. Starting to get beat a bit by players going wide. You hate to criticize given how well he has done for so long but lapses around the net are creeping into his play. Too bad the team isn't deep enough to give him a rest now and then and doesn't have someone else who can play well with Hughes.
Others
Bear - great first couple of periods but tired in the third. Overall, he was helpful in this game and is helping lift OEL's game
Burroughs - really ditto Bear - had a tough third. However, taking on a load that he does not usually gets. More a positive in the game than a negative.
Great road trip and as I suggested before, you can have some optimism looking ahead.
Pettersson - the legend is building. HIs commitment is absolute and we don't win without both his skill and his tenacity. Great game
Kuzmenko - his OT winner is likely the highlight of the season. Somehow you knew game was over as soon as he broke for the net. A must re-sign at this point. What a breath of fresh air! How high is the ceiling on this player??
Myers - his game is moving up. Still prone to the big time gaffe but he is playing harder and is pushing the play up the ice. Too bad he can't ever score on his chances but he is playing bigger around his net and really extending his zone of coverage. When Burroughs faded in the third, Myers had to take over coverage for most of the area from the circles in.
MIkhayev - if he can just build off his scoring lately and start tucking away the chances he is getting, his line will be very dangerous. Chemistry seems to building and the talent is there.
Demko - good game. Something to build off of. Couple of the goals against were flukey and he had to come up with huge saves to keep the team in it. Wide open question as to who you start next game.
Garland - never stopped competing. Drove the play and helped late in third with the team on the ropes. One of the only ones providing the energy to get some o-zone time. Did his best to keep his line from totally falling apart.
Miller - had some ups and downs in the game but worked the PP well (even though it didn't score) and pass on the winner was elite.
Not So Good
Boeser - mostly a passenger and not a very good one. Does some dinky little things with his stick but he was getting left two zones behind the play in transition. Play in his end is just horrible. Waves his stick at people occasionally another wise mostly stands still and watches. His point is always open and when player slide up his side on the cycle he never does anything but briefly move towards them. Player loves no contact hockey and I guess he would say after this game -"Well I was tired, you know" - like everyone else wasn't??? Polar opposite to Pettersson in terms of commitment. Either that or he simply cannot skate well enough to be in the League.
Lazar - guy is suppose to provide forechecking and good defense. Provided neither in this game. Aman constantly covering for this player who again was lugging around. In the late Shark blitz, he went AWOL and was the principle reasons his line had trouble. At this point, I think you could make a case that Lockwood could replace him. At least Lockwood has the wheels to stay firmly in the play and likely produce some offense (of which Lazar provides none). History on Lazar has been that he can't provide enough over any length of time to stay in the League. Might be he is slipping back towards a home in the AHL. IMO not close to being good enough. You could find things about Hoglander's play to fault but his try is there. I don't see the same out of Lazar and don't see him accomplishing much of anything.
Schenn - has tailed off in the last couple of games. Has had to bear a ton of weight this year and I think it's beginning to tell. Making a lot of plays from deep in his zone instead of having the speed to move up and shorten his passes. Starting to get beat a bit by players going wide. You hate to criticize given how well he has done for so long but lapses around the net are creeping into his play. Too bad the team isn't deep enough to give him a rest now and then and doesn't have someone else who can play well with Hughes.
Others
Bear - great first couple of periods but tired in the third. Overall, he was helpful in this game and is helping lift OEL's game
Burroughs - really ditto Bear - had a tough third. However, taking on a load that he does not usually gets. More a positive in the game than a negative.
Great road trip and as I suggested before, you can have some optimism looking ahead.
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Finally had dinner. Just want to add to other posters' comments - so happy for Demko.
If we can have 2 solid goalies going forward, that would be sweet, and one less item off our worry list.
If we can have 2 solid goalies going forward, that would be sweet, and one less item off our worry list.
vadim sharifijanov
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tbh i think it’s totally appropriate to take some liberties if you aren’t a white family. if a Filipinx family wants to name their kid kryztofer or if a Black lady wants her kid to be anfernee hardaway, i say go nuts. the queen doesn’t don’t own those names.
but if you are white, it’s like why the f*** is my name krystyn or jeni4 or schjon podein?
Toxic people are everywhere. Dont think too much about it.
And the less you give a shit about media in general the happier you'll be.
Social media in general is just a hotbed for toxicity, idiotic trends and stupid people. It doesnt reflect the real world, at least I hope so.
Canuckle
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I just want to say all you naysayers no patient bandwagoners, rebuild-calling buffoons, y'all don't know jack. I've been saying since the off-season we have a good crop of forwards. I said it at the start of the season it's Demko that's the problem and it keeps showing to be that way. We don't need a rebuild. A rebuild won't look better than what we have right now. A rebuild might take 10 years to get to what we have now on the roster. Edmonton has McDavid and they're not the best team in the NHL they haven't even won a cup. Y'all need to go touch grass.
You're a wise man good sir......wise man!
Big props to you if you were correct on Demko. I didn't see this at all. What flaws did you see in Demko last year that lead you to believe that he'd struggle this year?
Hughes - 23:13
Ekman-Larsson - 21:01
Myers - 19:29
Burroughs - 19:26
Bear - 17:22
Schenn - 17:03
We all love Schenn but people really need to understand that a big part of his success is that they've handled his minutes load excellently.
Ekman-Larsson - 21:01
Myers - 19:29
Burroughs - 19:26
Bear - 17:22
Schenn - 17:03
We all love Schenn but people really need to understand that a big part of his success is that they've handled his minutes load excellently.
Josepho
i want the bartkowski thread back
i don't miss tanner pearson
Exactly my take on this,.
Lots of brits have Chinese names during the colony years in Hong Kong and It seemed slightly bit off in a way but It was fine because they werent "yellow"(?).
But if you willingly misspell your own language you just look f***ing stupid.
Bjornar Moxnes
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It's crazy how despite the nucks awful start, they're about to tie the Flames in points soon...
Canuckle
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Oh no I said begining of this season, when we were struggling, when we were scoring goals but giving up 3 goal leads, we needed Demko to make the big saves but he made none. Last year he was great but this year he was different. I hope he can gradually restructure his game and come back with a bang.
rypper
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The team could just as easily go on another losing skid. Then it'll be you that's eating crow. There's flaws in the roster no doubt, they're overcoming them now though.
Little known fact but Brock Boeser has an absolutely ugly -12 +/-. Worst on the team. Tied for 7th worst in the league.
Kind of incredible that Dries and Stillman are -7 in only 11 games each. Pearson's -9 is also terrible and Miller's -7 is mostly driven by how terrible he was to start the season.
Kind of incredible that Dries and Stillman are -7 in only 11 games each. Pearson's -9 is also terrible and Miller's -7 is mostly driven by how terrible he was to start the season.
Canuckle
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There's flaws in every team. But to call a rebuild that quick that haste, with this crop of deep forwards? Lunacy. Yea and if we go on another winning skid do you eat the crow? Don't play this short-sighted game.
Defence is still the biggest problem that wont be fixed easily.
If the management group can fix that soon then I will gladly eat crow.
No one really said the forwards were bad(at least that Im aware of),
the problem was they did very little to deal with the d-core of this team.
You cant rely of goalies to make god like saves every game, even Demko and Markstrom before had off years as we all see.
Relying on one single factor (goaltending) to hopefully push your team to the playoffs doesnt look like a good formula for success in my books.
The canucks roster right now is like a bodybuilder who has a really strong upper body and legs but have no adequate core muscles and glutes to support and hold the whole body together.
Its not right and it's bound to fail imho.
Bo does.
rypper
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For the record I never wanted a rebuild, just to dump the bozo for some defensive help.
I'm just going to keep a measured approach. There'll be high highs but still low lows to come. The defense is too suspect.
Canuckle
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I made none of those claims.
My point was calling out the rebuild supporters and how short-sighted they are.
They didn’t fix the D because it’s near impossible to fix. There are 6D and 2 of them are basically untradeable and sucks up 13M in cap, never mind the fact there is another untradable one taking up 2.5M. That’s 16M spent on players that should cost like 4 in total. You really can’t do anything until you wait till Myers become tradeable and OEL’s buyout doesn’t destroy your cap.
They essentially upgraded the 3rd paring but Dermott is gone indefinitely because concussion. I guess we could’ve gotten Marino to pair with Quinn but then we don’t have the asset to beat out the NJ offer.
Bruce Boudreau admitting in the post-game presser that his team was running out of gas in the third period. A power play goal earlier in the game might have helped.....and they had a lot of glorious chances on the man-advantage.
But can't argue with a 3-0 road-trip which lands them a point out of seventh in the log-jammed Western Conference. Clearly there's a lot of teams are underperforming right now and all hovering around the .500 mark.
More important from the Canucks standpoint is that two of the wins on this trip were against Pacific Division opponents, where they're now 4-2 on the season.
But can't argue with a 3-0 road-trip which lands them a point out of seventh in the log-jammed Western Conference. Clearly there's a lot of teams are underperforming right now and all hovering around the .500 mark.
More important from the Canucks standpoint is that two of the wins on this trip were against Pacific Division opponents, where they're now 4-2 on the season.
mriswith
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Some of us want a contender, not just a team that can make the playoffs, and that makes all the difference in the world as to how you view this team.
Everyone agrees that our forwards are good this year. Everyone believed that our goaltending would be good this year. Everyone thought we'd be fighting for a playoff spot this year. That's not where the difference in opinion is at all.
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