Canes Offer Sheet KK (6.1 for 1 yr) Part II

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Best comment I have heard so far is the Habs matching. Then at the beginning of the season, Molson goes to the lockerroom and in front of everybody gives KK 20$. Except I would have it be 15$. Cause of his number and cause he's worth less than 20.

Then KK cry over his 6m check that Molson will have to pay

 

[Kents polished head]

It's not just a petty move (though that's absolutely part of it.)

They just sent a message to the entire league: f*** with us and we'll bury you. It is absolutely the right thing to do. I'd have done it if I were them.

Just a brilliant move on their part.

"We'll bury you"

This is Kotkaniemi we're talking about here. Hardly impossible to replace with a 1st and a few other assets.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

"We'll bury you"

This is Kotkaniemi we're talking about here. Hardly impossible to replace with a 1st and a few other assets.

It perfectly f***s us.

Either we sign and it screws us in negotiations with Suzuki and others going forward (not to mention what it does to our cap this year.)

Or, we lose a guy we were counting on in a key role going forward for next to nothing. We lose his trade value as well. For the first time in forever we had some young promising talent at center.

Now?

 

[zx81]

To forget about Eichel is not the end of the world. A lot of teams survive without Eichel.

An unoperated Eichel is too risky to acquire anyway.

 

[Ozmodiar]

 

[Belial]

Hope is not the thing I'd like my organization to run on.

Well, apparently we'll have to go through it...

 

[rahad]

I would have 0 problem if it has Arizona or ottawa making the offer sheet. The real problem is that Carolina first round pick is going to be around 22-30.

Let pray Carolina team collapse hard next season and miss the playoff

 

[donghabs98]

100%
My first thought was - this seems like an emotional decision by the canes.

One that doesn't make much sense at all hockey wise. They are deep down the middle and just refused to overpay to keep Hamilton. To now overpay for KK makes no sense.

 

[Kimota]

Then KK cry over his 6m check that Molson will have to pay

Well the hurt is already there for Molson paying him the amount. He deserves his little jab too. I know you're a KK supporter and I like him too BTW.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Let's hope Poehling can really surprise us..

I mean, if that's the plan...

 

[Gravity]

Yeah 2-2.5M x 2 years was the easiest contract Bergevin could've had. Should've been done early and was laughed at in the KK thread for insinuating that the fact it had not been done means something is up. Instead here we are in the last week of August........

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

One that doesn't make much sense at all hockey wise. They are deep down the middle and just refused to overpay to keep Hamilton. To now overpay for KK makes no sense.

They also traded a young goalie and then signed 2 overpaid ones.

Weird

 

[Bacchus1]

Personally, I think KK is an idiot for signing this deal. 1 year? Carolina doesn’t care about him. This action burns a bridge for no long term deal. It states clearly that he doesn’t want to be here.

Also, won’t Carolina be massively over the cap now?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

An unoperated Eichel is too risky to acquire anyway.

I agree. Not a fan of his contract and his injury is terrifying. He doesn't seem like a great leader either.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Well the hurt is already there for Molson paying him the amount. He deserves his little jab too. I know you're a KK supporter and I like him too BTW.

I like him but I'd let him walk at this price. Team needs a heavy rebuild

 

[le_sean]

Personally, I think KK is an idiot for signing this deal. 1 year? Carolina doesn’t care about him. This action burns a bridge for no long term deal. It states clearly that he doesn’t want to be here.

Also, won’t Carolina be massively over the cap now?

Just $1.5m over. But still a precarious position to put themselves in considering they don’t need centres.

 

[Kents polished head]

It perfectly f***s us.

Either we sign and it screws us in negotiations with Suzuki and others going forward (not to mention what it does to our cap this year.)

Or, we lose a guy we were counting on in a key role going forward for next to nothing. We lose his trade value as well. For the first time in forever we had some young promising talent at center.

Now?

The only promising future we had at C was Suzuki. Kotkaniemi has never been anything more than potential in a jar that might never translate.

This is a pretty amateur way of handling things by Bergevin and he indeed has a lot of explaining to do. But 6.1M for Kotkaniemi is beyond ridiculous. It's absolutely horrible. You take the picks, add a couple of assets and replace him. It's not that hard to do. People are really overrating his contribution to the team.

There's not even a spot for him at C in CAR...

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Personally, I think KK is an idiot for signing this deal. 1 year? Carolina doesn’t care about him. This action burns a bridge for no long term deal. It states clearly that he doesn’t want to be here.

Also, won’t Carolina be massively over the cap now?

Even ignoring the dollars, he becomes a UFA in a year if Carolina gets him. It's great for him. Of course he's going to do it.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

The only promising future we had at C was Suzuki. Kotkaniemi has never been anything more than potential in a jar that might never translate.

This is a pretty amateur way of handling things by Bergevin and he indeed has a lot of explanation to do. But 6.1M for Kotkaniemi is beyond ridiculous. It's absolutely horrible. You take the picks, add a couple of assets and replace him. It's not that hard to do. People are really overrating his contribution to the team.

A solid young two way center who's 21 years old... and we let him go for nothing.

Pathetic.

Sadly though, it might actually be the best path forward. The Canes completely screwed us here.

 

[Belial]

I mean, if that's the plan...

Yep, Bergevin knew that Carolina would offer sheet at a crazy amount KK and it was all prepared.

 

[McGees]

It's not just a petty move (though that's absolutely part of it.)

They just sent a message to the entire league: f*** with us and we'll bury you. It is absolutely the right thing to do. I'd have done it if I were them.

Just a brilliant move on their part.

The move is one thing, I totally get that and that’s fair game.
The using of the exact same quote announcement, the posting it in French, the signing bonus, the Twitter account going ham…that’s the classless part.

 

[Kents polished head]

One that doesn't make much sense at all hockey wise. They are deep down the middle and just refused to overpay to keep Hamilton. To now overpay for KK makes no sense.

Us not matching would screw them over more than us. We can easily find a replacement or a stopgap that brings what KK brought to the team on the short term.

 

[Halakitlikethat]

Take the picks and shop them

 

[Kents polished head]

The move is one thing, I totally get that and that’s fair game.
The using of the exact same quote announcement, the posting it in French, the signing bonus, the Twitter account going ham…that’s the classless part.

The funny part is that they think they're really clever offering Kotkaniemi 6.1M lol. They're so f***ed if we take the picks.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I agree. Not a fan of his contract and his injury is terrifying. He doesn't seem like a great leader either.

There is a reason why Eichel is not traded yet. His injury and drama , people don't want to overpay for him. I think his value return will be disappointing for Sabres fans