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Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

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Canadienna said:
I think it started out as Zadina, but as the days leading up the draft went on, there was too many hints that we were taking KK that the board flipped and was pro KK.

Of course I don't doubt some were Tkachuk fans, but they were very few and far between.

It will be interesting to see how the Michkov narrative changes over the years to come.
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Zadina didn't have anywhere near the pedigree that Michkov has. Zadina played well in Junior.

Michkov played well in Junior - and obliterated international tournaments 2 years before he was supposed to, and then was a force in the 2nd best league in the world, in his pre draft year, outperforming Ovechkin, Panarin, etc...

Also, Zadina had conditioning issues at the combine. Michkov is a training and practice freak.

Maybe Kobe Bryant is a better comparable than Zadina :)
 
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26Mats said:
Zadina didn't have anywhere near the pedigree that Michkov has. Zadina played well in Junior.

Michkov played well in Junior - and obliterated international tournaments 2 years before he was supposed to, and then was a force in the 2nd best league in the world, in his pre draft year, outperforming Ovechkin, Panarin, etc...

Also, Zadina had conditioning issues at the combine. Michkov is a training and practice freak.

Maybe Kobe Bryant is a better comparable than Zadina :)
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I'm not comparing them. I've been one of the biggest Michkov supporters.
 
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Canadienna said:
I'm not comparing them. I've been one of the biggest Michkov supporters.
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It's funny that Russian people think he's overrated lol

Apparently, he's been pushed as this next Russian star for a while and it's more hype than actual substance.

I'm just delivering the vibe, don't kill the messenger, please! :laugh:
 
Belial said:
It's funny that Russian people think he's overrated lol

Apparently, he's been pushed as this next Russian star for a while and it's more hype than actual substance.

I'm just delivering the vibe, don't kill the messenger, please! :laugh:
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Strange comment, and not my experience with Russians.

Whether or not it's hype or substance is still to be seen.

I've said it before, but if HuGo pass on Michkov because they genuinely believe another player will end up a better player, then fine - I disagree with their assessment - but I recognize no one is a sure thing and these guys are professionals.

I just don't want them to avoid a player they know is the best because of politics.
 
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Belial said:
It's funny that Russian people think he's overrated lol

Apparently, he's been pushed as this next Russian star for a while and it's more hype than actual substance.

I'm just delivering the vibe, don't kill the messenger, please! :laugh:
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More hype than substance, yet he beat Ovy at the same age in both MHL and KHL, which is a lot more substance than hype....

When people latch on to a narrative...

When Caufield beat Ovy for most goals at U18, was it more hype than substance?
 
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Ozymandias said:
More hype than substance, yet he beat Ovy at the same age in both MHL and KHL, which is a lot more substance than hype....

When people latch on to a narrative...

When Caufield beat Ovy for most goals at U18, was it more hype than substance?
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As I said don't kill the messenger... :laugh:
 
Kennerback said:
He might be very good. But I just don’t get Leonard. He doesn’t have a classic package at all. Do you know a comparable to Leonard in the last 40 years?
What’s the gold standard for a player like that in the NHL?

-winger
-A good skater but not a big puck possession player
-Scores goals more than assists(since novice has never had more assists than goals ever)
-Good shooter adept at picking up junk around the net
-OK stickhandler
-Perhaps in the 5’11 to 6’0 range (we’ll know this week)
-Chases body checks

What are we talking about here???
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We're talking about the perfect guy to complete Caufield / Suzuki brand of pretty soft hockey.
 
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I am on the Leonard bandwagon for our 5th OV pick. I also would not mind Reinbacher or Dvorsky.

Leonard is a helluva player.

I don't think its out of the question that Leonard ends up more productive than the likes of Carlsson or Smith to be honest.
 
Jaynki said:
I am on the Leonard bandwagon for our 5th OV pick. I also would not mind Reinbacher or Dvorsky.

Leonard is a helluva player.

I don't think its out of the question that Leonard ends up more productive than the likes of Carlsson or Smith to be honest.
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If they liked Slaf as much as they did I can see why they’d like Leonard as well.
 
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SOLR said:
We're talking about the perfect guy to complete Caufield / Suzuki brand of pretty soft hockey.
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I don't see Suzuki's brand of hockey as soft.

He can go onto the corners and come out with the puck. He can protect the puck well against the wall and make plays. Often when a defender is coming at him on the wall, he initiates contact with a reverse hit, bumping off the defender and giving himself time and space to make a play.
 
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PavelBrendl said:
Or maybe we should be drafting a C for Dach. If you’re only winning 3.5/10 faceoffs, you shouldn’t be taking them.
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Yeah, thanks for chiming in lol
I mean It's not as if there's a ridiculously strong possibility the 1st 4 picks of this draft could be the best 4 Centers available.
And we are, get this, amazingly picking 5th
Where the options become Winger or D.
But no again, thanks for that. Really
 
SOLR said:
We're talking about the perfect guy to complete Caufield / Suzuki brand of pretty soft hockey.
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Soft hockey? No one is talking Drouin here................wow.
Brutal take....

26Mats said:
I don't see Suzuki's brand of hockey as soft.

He can go onto the corners and come out with the puck. He can protect the puck well against the wall and make plays. Often when a defender is coming at him on the wall, he initiates contact with a reverse hit, bumping off the defender and giving himself time and space to make a play.
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If you don't actually watch the games, then you may say Suzuki and CC play soft hockey.....
Both of those kids are very good players, who are far from soft....
 
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