Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[26Mats]

Actions speak louder than words.

I hear you. But I like his words about the entry draft:

“And I will go to the draft itself at the end of June. I’m just going to watch the ceremony. It happens once in a lifetime. I can’t even imagine what will happen there, and what emotions it will be.”

- Michkov

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[HankyZetts]

I'm always blown away by comments like these.. people always tend to make 17-18 year old prospects as SURE-fire can't miss established NHL superstars a might touch too early lol

Auston Matthew's has 1 100 pt season in 7 seasons and he was can't miss 1st OV borderline generational...

I'm blown away by the fact that you took what I said as Will Smith being a "SURE-fire can't miss established NHL superstar".

Way to be overly dramatic4!

 

[HankyZetts]

As I mentioned, I would still take Smith over Leonard but Leonard’s game is very transferable to the NHL. Drives the net, competes, good shot, skilled and can skate. Smith likely has the higher upside and more likely to hit 100 point level, but Leornard I think is the one to hit 70 points and contributes in all aspects of the game. Kind of like Bennett, Konecny, Hartman type…

Nice, thanks for the breakdown. I like what I've seen from Leonard as well, but haven't seen nearly enough. Don't know how I missed you explicitly stating you'd take Smith over him though lol

I read your last sentence and got stuck on that for some reason. So I guess what you're saying is that you can see us taking him over Michkov?

I would take Leonard over Smith. I think Leonard will be more impactful, even though he may not put as many points as Smith.

Interesting! These last few playoffs have proved to me that it's more about complete players who can work as a unit than it is about elite skilled players.
Though I still do want Michkov!! Gonna be a fun draft!

 

[nhlfan9191]

Everybody did not believe how lucky Edmonton was to have had McDavid in 2015 and that CLB made Pulju slide to them in 2016. It was an absolute out of the blue pick because there was a clear top 3 in 2016. There was more talk about Pulju going 2nd in 2016 than any of him Laine and Matthews falling.

Also, before getting 48 points in his rookie season in his D+2 PLD had 18 points in 20 games in the Q in his D+1 with Cape Breton. Just in case you were worried with Slaf.

Screenshot from McKenzie 2016 final draft ranking.

You could be right. I’m using revisionist history and that draft was awhile ago now. I do remember Edmonton fans being super happy about it, but at the same time I know there were red flags regarding him because that 4th pick was heavily linked with Subban at the time.

Edit: And this has nothing to do with Slaf. But if I was drawing comparables, I wouldn’t be comparing him to Dubois, I’d be comparing him to Poolparty, another highly rated prospect coming out of Finland. And reading how hyped Puljujarvis was at the time, that would only make me more worried that Slaf isn’t the same hype job.

 

[McGees]

People on this site should have to their 'picks' permanently engraved on their profile for us to marvel at years later.

Having an opinion is fine but some legitimately think they are smarter than NHL scouting departments is lol.

 

[ReHabs]

People on this site should have to their 'picks' permanently engraved on their profile for us to marvel at years later.

Having an opinion is fine but some legitimately think they are smarter than NHL scouting departments is lol.

It isn’t hard to be better than the Habs — who are rock bottom or just around rock bottom in many draft-related categories.

Zero PPG players drafted in over 20 years is damning.

 

[Steve Shutt]

Judging by pass drafts, I'm thinking someone outside the top 5 goes in the top 5 and shakes things up. I'm thinking the Habs might have the luxury of choosing between Michkov & Smith.

 

[Runner77]

It isn’t hard to be better than the Habs — who are rock bottom or just around rock bottom in many draft-related categories.

Zero PPG players drafted in over 20 years is damning.

Good thing we don’t have the management of the past 20 years in place.

Into Year 2 of Hughes’ tenure, let’s find out what he can do.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I hear you. But I like his words about the entry draft:

“And I will go to the draft itself at the end of June. I’m just going to watch the ceremony. It happens once in a lifetime. I can’t even imagine what will happen there, and what emotions it will be.”

- Michkov

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If he’s there at 5 and we pass that’s going to be hard to take. I just can’t deal with this crazy risk adverse organization we have always been. That said, I don’t Hughes snd Gorton operate that way, so if they pass they might have some intel. If someone else slips it might make their decision easier too if someone else they want is avail at 5 with Michkov.

I got a feeling it’s going to be.
Bedard
Fantilli
Smith
Carlson

I hear you. But I like his words about the entry draft:

“And I will go to the draft itself at the end of June. I’m just going to watch the ceremony. It happens once in a lifetime. I can’t even imagine what will happen there, and what emotions it will be.”

- Michkov

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[BehindTheTimes]

People on this site should have to their 'picks' permanently engraved on their profile for us to marvel at years later.

Having an opinion is fine but some legitimately think they are smarter than NHL scouting departments is lol.

Most scouting departments are known for
f***ing things up. Lolol.

 

[26Mats]

If he’s there at 5 and we pass that’s going to be hard to take. I just can’t deal with this crazy risk adverse organization we have always been. That said, I don’t Hughes snd Gorton operate that way, so if they pass they might have some intel. If someone else slips it might make their decision easier too if someone else they want is avail at 5 with Michkov.

I got a feeling it’s going to be.
Bedard
Fantilli
Smith
Carlson

hard for me know to know what Columbus, SJ, and MTL are thinking. I hope we get more insights as the draft gets closer. We know Columbus will take a center and that they really wanted Fantilli, and were very disappointed to fall back to 3rd. So at the time they weren't nearly as high on Carlsson and Smith as Fantilli. Will be interesting to see what they do with the pick - and then SJ, and then us...

 

[BehindTheTimes]

hard for me know to know what Columbus, SJ, and MTL are thinking. I hope we get more insights as the draft gets closer. We know Columbus will take a center and that they really wanted Fantilli, and were very disappointed to fall back to 3rd. So at the time they weren't nearly as high on Carlsson and Smith as Fantilli. Will be interesting to see what they do with the pick - and then SJ, and then us...

Love to see us make a deal with the ducks.

 

[Runner77]

Love to see us make a deal with the ducks.

We do have assets to dangle if Hughes wants to attempt it.

 

[BenchBrawl]

People on this site should have to their 'picks' permanently engraved on their profile for us to marvel at years later.

Having an opinion is fine but some legitimately think they are smarter than NHL scouting departments is lol.

I agree 100% with this. Put some skin in the game of the smooth talkers and other bullshitters.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

If he’s there at 5 and we pass that’s going to be hard to take. I just can’t deal with this crazy risk adverse organization we have always been. That said, I don’t Hughes snd Gorton operate that way, so if they pass they might have some intel. If someone else slips it might make their decision easier too if someone else they want is avail at 5 with Michkov.

I got a feeling it’s going to be.
Bedard
Fantilli
Smith
Carlson

I would agree with your assessment of the team generally adopting a risk adverse approach, save of course, the times they reach in a continuing vain effort to draft the next home town hero. But drafting Mailloux at the bottom of the first round and Hutson at the bottom of the second round, despite all the ‘noise’ surrounding these two prospects, is a marked deviation from their standard ‘safety first’ approach. Who knows, this unpredictable conduct might continue in this draft.

 

[Runner77]

I got a feeling it’s going to be.
Bedard
Fantilli
Smith
Carlson

Smith and Carlsson could be flipped but those are the likely top 4. If Hughes is dead set on landing one of them, and be sure to get him, start workin’ the phones, bud.

Kent ought to inform Pierre LeBrun about his phone usage cause that’s what LeBrun values.

 

[Kennerback]

I agree 100% with this. Put some skin in the game of the smooth talkers and other bullshitters.

Save for the other Top-5s, Michkov will be seen as the consensus best pick within 24 months from the draft. I’ll leave this site in shame forever, if he isn’t.

 

[NewEraGM]

Ok so from a top 10, you are now saying it is a top 3?

That looks like moving the goal post.

Regardless, top 3, 5 or 10…there is a group of players that are clearly ahead of Robertson. They should be in their own tier.
Robertson and McDavid should not be in same tier I’m sorry…

Nice, thanks for the breakdown. I like what I've seen from Leonard as well, but haven't seen nearly enough. Don't know how I missed you explicitly stating you'd take Smith over him though lol

I read your last sentence and got stuck on that for some reason. So I guess what you're saying is that you can see us taking him over Michkov?


Interesting! These last few playoffs have proved to me that it's more about complete players who can work as a unit than it is about elite skilled players.
Though I still do want Michkov!! Gonna be a fun draft!

From what some of the habs insiders are saying, it sounds like Habs are very high on Leonard and some of the Atheltic prospect experts like Pronman, Wheeler have said that it’s unlikely Michkov goes top 5

I have no intel myself, just regurgitating what the insiders are saying

 

[nhlfan9191]

People on this site should have to their 'picks' permanently engraved on their profile for us to marvel at years later.

Having an opinion is fine but some legitimately think they are smarter than NHL scouting departments is lol.

There are some people on here that I would trust drafting more then some pro scouting teams. It doesn’t take a Harvard degree to get a job in the NHL. It’s an old boys club almost all the way across.

 

[Frank Drebin]

There are some people on here that I would trust drafting more then some pro scouting teams. It doesn’t take a Harvard degree to get a job in the NHL. It’s an old boys club almost all the way across.

I wouldn't trust people on here to make the right decision over actual scouts only because they don't have access to information that scouts do. Things like interviews with the players, their teammates and coaches, etc. Plus watching live is so much different than watching on tv.

That said, I think it's fair to say that a lot of normal folk, hockey fans, would make very good scouts. Better than a lot of the old boys club you refer to.

 

[NORiculous]

Regardless, top 3, 5 or 10…there is a group of players that are clearly ahead of Robertson. They should be in their own tier.
Robertson and McDavid should not be in same tier I’m sorry…

Dude, the next step is to say : no one is in the same tier as McDavid… but that is not the point of my initial response and that is clearly not what you said.

You started off by using the Stars as a model for the Habs. A team with no superstars. Then you started playing around with your own definition of what a superstar is.

The first things you said was superstar = top 10. Dallas arguably has a top 10 player. Then, since it didn’t fit your needs, you shifted to top 5 and then shifted again to top 3.

There is a huge difference if you are saying top 10 or if you are saying top 3. You can’t say something and then change the definition along to fit your needs. That’s moving the goal posts. Imagine if teams could do that.

Anyway, back to the main subject. For Dallas to be a model, the Habs need a top 10 player and I don’t see it happening unless they get lucky with Michkov. Lucky that he falls to 5, lucky that Hughes doesn’t get scared and lucky that he becomes an arguably top 10ish / 100+ pts guy. And that is not what you were initially saying.

 

[nhlfan9191]

I wouldn't trust people on here to make the right decision over actual scouts only because they don't have access to information that scouts do. Things like interviews with the players, their teammates and coaches, etc. Plus watching live is so much different than watching on tv.

That said, I think it's fair to say that a lot of normal folk, hockey fans, would make very good scouts. Better than a lot of the old boys club you refer to.

It’s all politics when it comes to getting jobs in the NHL. They’re all friends of a friend of a friend. I don’t even think Bergevin had a highschool degree but a sports organization worth billions of dollars was comfortable enough to have him in a role of authority over their product because he slummed it as a depth defensemen in the NHL as a player. When someone says “some people think they’re smarter then actual pro scouting teams” they aren’t saying a whole lot. I could sit on my couch and tell you Karl Alzner is finished or Jack Campbell is a bum, yet that makes it past an entire “team” of people. Let that sink.

 

[26Mats]

I got a feeling it’s going to be.
Bedard
Fantilli
Smith
Carlson

Smith and Carlsson could be flipped but those are the likely top 4. If Hughes is dead set on landing one of them, and be sure to get him, start workin’ the phones, bud.

Kent ought to inform Pierre LeBrun about his phone usage cause that’s what LeBrun values.

That's my dream top 4, leaving Michkov to us. muahahaha

 

[Retired]

I'm blown away by the fact that you took what I said as Will Smith being a "SURE-fire can't miss established NHL superstar".

Way to be overly dramatic4!

My pick too

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

He did say that he spoke to Habs decision makers and that no doubt, led him to his conclusion.

But they can change their mind. It was a snapdhot of a moment. Decisions changes sometimes.