Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[Retired]

I really don't see it with Dvorsky. The tools just aren't there for me for him to compete with the top 5. Reinbacher is safe, but even if he ends up as a number 2, I think he'll be a very bland number 2 with very little offense. And maybe that could work, but then how will we acquire game-breaking talent up-front?

Leonard is the best of the bunch, though his inferior production and skill to the likes of Smith and even Perreault (in my view) concern me.

If Michkov falls to 5, you have to take him, because he is so far above the aforementioned trio, it's ridiculous. And then, you proceed to be an actual competent organization and get his ass over here without excuses.

Obviously, if he's not there at 5, you take whoever is, no harm, no foul. I'm still not certain Bobrov will even do that, though...



Dvorsky gives me strong "jack of all trades, master of none" vibes. That said, he's actually fine as a prospect, even if we were drafting at 6, I just think the gulf between him and the top 5 and especially Michkov is quite significant.



Our scouting staff is largely the same as our previous regime, and the one guy they added (because he was their buddy) to head things up seems like a f***ing idiot with no track record of success to me, so you'll forgive me if my confidence isn't at an all-time high. I don't have faith in them yet, which is not the same as being "angry." I'll have faith when we have some actual success at literally anything. So I don't have any anger to let go of. But you could let go of the condescending attitude if you like

I must have read too much into this comment you made ”'…and they pick someone like Dvorsky over Michkov, I think I'm done with this team for a while.”.

Also your name sounds angry.

Interesting fact, fewer than half of people have an “inner voice” … You sounded like Adam Sandler there to me for some reason!

Sounds like you won’t see that draft pick play for a while either way though come to think of it. I’m trying to be light-hearted and not condescending. I feel we’ve reached the limits of written word.

also your name.

 

[Omar]

Who are you talking about exactly?

What game-breaking talent was ignored in the last 30 years of drafting?

You know Trevor Timmins was fired right?

 

[Twisted Sinister]

I must have read too much into this comment you made ”'…and they pick someone like Dvorsky over Michkov, I think I'm done with this team for a while.”.

Also your name sounds angry.

Interesting fact, fewer than half of people have an “inner voice” … You sounded like Adam Sandler there to me for some reason!

Sounds like you won’t see that draft pick play for a while either way though come to think of it. I’m trying to be light-hearted and not condescending. I feel we’ve reached the limits of written word.

also your name.

My name references these guys:



If your intent was to be playful rather than condescending, fair enough. Tone isn't always easy to convey with the written word, as you say.

 

[NewEraGM]

Warming up to the idea of Ryan Leonard. Would still take the obvious and Smith over him but Leonard would be a great add to our top 6. Drives the net, strong, compete, great shot…could be a Konecny, Bennett, Hartman type of player.

I heard Habs are very high on him and if the draft goes as expected in the top 4, I wouldn’t be surprised to see us take him.

 

[NewEraGM]

Warming up to the idea of Ryan Leonard. Would still take the obvious and Smith over him but Leonard would be a great add to our top 6. Drives the net, strong, compete, great shot…could be a Konecny, Bennett, Hartman type of player.

I heard Habs are very high on him and if the draft goes as expected in the top 4, I wouldn’t be surprised to see us take him.

Slafkovsky- Suzuki - Caufield
Dubois - Dach - Leonard

Probably missing that superstar still but some really great depth. A bit like Dallas…no superstar but a few stars in there and good depth.

I’ve always been a believer that you don’t need a superstar, as long as you have 3 lines that you can roll with and a great role playing 4th line.

 

[Benstheman]

Slafkovsky- Suzuki - Caufield
Dubois - Dach - Leonard

Probably missing that superstar still but some really great depth. A bit like Dallas…no superstar but a few stars in there and good depth.

I’ve always been a believer that you don’t need a superstar, as long as you have 3 lines that you can roll with and a great role playing 4th line.

Caufield can definitely reach the superstar status. Scoring 50 goals (If he reaches that) for me is superstar.

 

[NewEraGM]

Caufield can definitely reach the superstar status. Scoring 50 goals (If he reaches that) for me is superstar.

Yea I think he can reach 50 goals for sure. I do think the terms of star and superstar are somewhat subjective. Like where do we draw the line?! For me, I think there are 10 or so superstars in the league, after that, even if “worthy” of superstar status, it’s more star status…but yes, I agree with your point.

If Caufield can be 50G and Suzuki is PPG, and then 2-3 other 60-70 point guys, I think there’s more than enough there to have a strong top 6 with depth.

 

[26Mats]

Let's define premium then 'cause for me, none of those guys are premium yet or even seen as premium.

Yes, what does premium mean?

 

[WinterLion]

Saying I’m confused is an insult?

Anyways

Sorry I misread that in that case. My bad.

 

[Whitesnake]

Yes, what does premium mean?

To me, premium mean, for me, potential top 2 D's with a great sense of playing complete hockey offensively and defensively. Right now, I don't think we have a d-man in our prospect pool that has that. There are no Guhle's in our prospect pool right now. At the time, I would have called Guhle a premium prospect. For other teams, Mintyukov is premium. Luke Hughes. Jiricek. Nemec, Edvinsson, Clarke. We could think that Mailloux could be debated with guys like Korchinski and Zellwegger. I do not see Barron breaking that list.

 

[Jack Skellington]

Slafkovsky- Suzuki - Caufield
Dubois - Dach - Leonard

Probably missing that superstar still but some really great depth. A bit like Dallas…no superstar but a few stars in there and good depth.

I’ve always been a believer that you don’t need a superstar, as long as you have 3 lines that you can roll with and a great role playing 4th line.

Dallas has no superstar??? Wtf

 

[NORiculous]

Slafkovsky- Suzuki - Caufield
Dubois - Dach - Leonard

Probably missing that superstar still but some really great depth. A bit like Dallas…no superstar but a few stars in there and good depth.

I’ve always been a believer that you don’t need a superstar, as long as you have 3 lines that you can roll with and a great role playing 4th line.

So a 22 year old that goes 79 pts in 74 games to then up his game at 23 to 109 pts in 82 games (with over 30 pts lead on his closest teammates)… tied for 6th in the league with Tkachuk, between Rantanen and MacKinon.

Don’t see how you don’t qualify him as a superstar.

Habs have nothing close to that.

 

[Naslund]

Slafkovsky- Suzuki - Caufield
Dubois - Dach - Leonard

Probably missing that superstar still but some really great depth. A bit like Dallas…no superstar but a few stars in there and good depth.

I’ve always been a believer that you don’t need a superstar, as long as you have 3 lines that you can roll with and a great role playing 4th line.

Love this top 6. Shorter term, assuming we keep Anderson, we may see something like this in the top 9 in 1-3 years. This would also be very sexy IMO as a fast, skilled and heavy team. I can see HuGo trying to build something like that, which should be fairly easy at this point.

Slafkovsky- Suzuki - Anderson
Dubois - Dach - Caufield
Heineman - Beck - Leonard

 

[JoelWarlord]

Probably missing that superstar still but some really great depth. A bit like Dallas…no superstar but a few stars in there and good depth.

I get what you're saying in terms of team building but Jason Robertson is a superstar.



Dallas also dresses 18 star players every night!

 

[HankyZetts]

Warming up to the idea of Ryan Leonard. Would still take the obvious and Smith over him but Leonard would be a great add to our top 6. Drives the net, strong, compete, great shot…could be a Konecny, Bennett, Hartman type of player.

I heard Habs are very high on him and if the draft goes as expected in the top 4, I wouldn’t be surprised to see us take him.

Would you really take him over Smith? I don't think we can risk passing on a potential 100 point player to play with Caufield

 

[Naslund]

Would you really take him over Smith? I don't think we can risk passing on a potential 100 point player to play with Caufield

I would take Leonard over Smith. I think Leonard will be more impactful, even though he may not put as many points as Smith.

 

[26Mats]

To me, premium mean, for me, potential top 2 D's with a great sense of playing complete hockey offensively and defensively. Right now, I don't think we have a d-man in our prospect pool that has that. There are no Guhle's in our prospect pool right now. At the time, I would have called Guhle a premium prospect. For other teams, Mintyukov is premium. Luke Hughes. Jiricek. Nemec, Edvinsson, Clarke. We could think that Mailloux could be debated with guys like Korchinski and Zellwegger. I do not see Barron breaking that list.

Well if that's your definition of premium, we don't need a premium on the right side.

We need one or two of those on the whole team. So they can both be on the left side, with their partner being a solid dman on the right.

I'd say Guhle and Matheson are premium. Though Matheson still has to put it together to reach prime Jeff Petry status.

Then we have a bunch of future candidates like Hutson, Mailloux, Barron, Xhekaj, harris, and Engstrom.

Bottom line is we don't need a premium RD, if that's your definition.

 

[1909]

If Michkov falls at #5, I could see Hughes trading that pick for another further pick (top 10) + an excellent prospect who has not fully blossomed yet - a young player already at NHL level like Dach was.

 

[NORiculous]

If Michkov falls at #5, I could see Hughes trading that pick for another further pick (top 10) + an excellent prospect who has not fully bloosomed yet - a young player already at NHL level like Dach was.

If he does, he better not miss his shot because this has the potential to be much worse then Drouin / Sergachev.

 

[Redux91]

Would you really take him over Smith? I don't think we can risk passing on a potential 100 point player to play with Caufield

I'm always blown away by comments like these.. people always tend to make 17-18 year old prospects as SURE-fire can't miss established NHL superstars a might touch too early lol

Auston Matthew's has 1 100 pt season in 7 seasons and he was can't miss 1st OV borderline generational...

 

[1909]

If he does, he better not miss his shot because this has the potential to be much worse then Drouin / Sergachev.

If he ever does make that deal, it will be because he feels that he has 90% + chances to NOT see Michkov comes over to play at NHL level in any near future.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

If Michkov falls at #5, I could see Hughes trading that pick for another further pick (top 10) + an excellent prospect who has not fully blossomed yet - a young player already at NHL level like Dach was.

Nobody is trading us a player better than Michkov, if he did this he should be fired instantly

 

[BenchBrawl]

Taking anyone not named Bedard over Michkov is cowardice.

Cowards are traitors to the universe and the gods.

 

[NORiculous]

If he ever does make that deal, it will be because he feels that he has 90% + chances to NOT see Michkov comes over to play at NHL level in any near future.

Not sure how you can go inside his head and know the deal triggers at 90%+, but like I said, he better not miss his shot because it will be much worse then Drouin / Sergachev.

 

[vokiel]

I'd pick Oliver Moore