Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[FF de Mars]

?????? no ????


Michkov's comparable is a mix of Pavel Bure / Kirill Kaprizov

Michkov isn't the same type of player as Pavel Bure. Do you mean in terms of star power or what? Bure was a rocket! Michkov is a genius, not an athlete.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I had responded to a similar post you made last week but it was ignored.

Wait no more! It’s all in this thread, just takes some searching:



Leroux saying here that based on discussions he’s had with Habs higher ups, he’d be very surprised if they’d select him. Michkov has too many issues as per Leroux:











Just to be clear, I’m not vouching for any of these sources nor what they’re advancing. There are probably others but I do believe that some or the aggregate are pushing the narrative or are advancing that they have info that supports their claims.

Leroux said he could be wrong but from what he discussed a bit it looks like that. He said clearly : "Ils veulent pas d'trouble, ils veulent pas aller là".

 

[Weber Fan]

Is Mark Stone a good comparable for Michkov's type of game?

Very bad comparison. If you want a comparison for Michkov, think of Kaprizov…

 

[26Mats]

Michkov isn't the same type of player as Pavel Bure. Do you mean in terms of star power or what? Bure was a rocket! Michkov is a genius, not an athlete.

One comparable I see with Bure is, for a small player, he goes hard to the net. With the speed Bure played at, it ended his career early.

 

[Runner77]

Leroux said he could be wrong but from what he discussed a bit it looks like that. He said clearly : "Ils veulent pas d'trouble, ils veulent pas aller là".

He did say that he spoke to Habs decision makers and that no doubt, led him to his conclusion.

 

[26Mats]

if there was any doubt Anaheim wasn’t taking Fantili, it’s now gone.

We still can never be sure come draft day. Not too many expected Wright to fall to 4 last year and Nemec to go 2nd, or us to pick Slaf.

Carlsson has had a great tournament. He could go 2nd. So could Michkov, in theory. Most think he's the 2nd best player in the draft.

 

[JohnTheBaptist]

The Sharks are likely to select Michkov, they have the time to wait as they are entering a rebuild. Smith should be there at 5.

 

[Team_Spirit]

I'd be annoyed if we picked Reinbacher, not because he's not a good pick or prospect. But because this team has been focusing on drafting Ds for many years now, and we still need a premium quality RD prospect lol

 

[SOLR]

Michkov isn't the same type of player as Pavel Bure. Do you mean in terms of star power or what? Bure was a rocket! Michkov is a genius, not an athlete.

Michkov and Bure have a skill in common, the wrist shot while skating at a high speed and finding shooting space in the middle.

The rest is very much Kaprisov.

 

[26Mats]

I'd be annoyed if we picked Reinbacher, not because he's not a good pick or prospect. But because this team has been focusing on drafting Ds for many years now, and we still need a premium quality RD prospect lol

Mailloux? Barron?

 

[Belial]

Mailloux? Barron?

They will not draft a D with all those forwards sitting there.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

Hire a coach with absolutely no experience out of the blue.

Draft an unwanted guy at 1 when all the building are screaming for the other guy.

Trade an uprising, fan favorite D for a 3rd year player whose best season is 28 points.

Are you referring to those when you are talking about risk averse decision?

Only getting Dach was actually that risky, given his injury history. We're in a rebuild, and Slaf was 1-2 according to most people (despite what I think about the player or what "the building" wanted.) Romanov, meanwhile, had a definite ceiling and wasn't a huge loss.

I get you wanna take the least important part in my post and nitpick it so you can maintain your relentless positivity, so I'll say this instead:

Whether you want to call it risk averse or a sign of incompetence, I'd say drafting a 2-way second line center or a decent two-way defenseman over a potential game-breaking franchise player is a sign that the franchise still lacks the ability to properly Hockey.

 

[McGees]

I really see us picking Leonard/Reinbacher or Dvorsky.
Michy will fall to Caps at 8 maybe.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

I really see us picking Leonard/Reinbacher or Dvorsky.
Michy will fall to Caps at 8 maybe.

Welp, if that happens...

 

[Belial]

Only getting Dach was actually that risky, given his injury history. We're in a rebuild, and Slaf was 1-2 according to most people (despite what I think about the player or what "the building" wanted.) Romanov, meanwhile, had a definite ceiling and wasn't a huge loss.

I get you wanna take the least important part in my post and nitpick it so you can maintain your relentless positivity, so I'll say this instead:

Whether you want to call it risk averse or a sign of incompetence, I'd say drafting a 2-way second line center or a decent two-way defenseman over a potential game-breaking franchise player is a sign that the franchise still lacks the ability to properly Hockey.

Who are you talking about exactly?

What game-breaking talent was ignored in the last 30 years of drafting?

 

[BehindTheTimes]

He already said he'll be at the draft but probably won't be at the combine.

Actions speak louder than words.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

Who are you talking about exactly?

What game-breaking talent was ignored in the last 30 years of drafting?

Are you serious? Do you think our draft record has been good?

I'm not sure what your endgame is here. Is your implication that Canadiens management has actually been competent for the last 30 years?

 

[Jaynki]

Only getting Dach was actually that risky, given his injury history. We're in a rebuild, and Slaf was 1-2 according to most people (despite what I think about the player or what "the building" wanted.) Romanov, meanwhile, had a definite ceiling and wasn't a huge loss.

I get you wanna take the least important part in my post and nitpick it so you can maintain your relentless positivity, so I'll say this instead:

Whether you want to call it risk averse or a sign of incompetence, I'd say drafting a 2-way second line center or a decent two-way defenseman over a potential game-breaking franchise player is a sign that the franchise still lacks the ability to properly Hockey.

We can agree that Michkov is a tier above any player in the draft beside Bedard. We can agree that Michkov would have been 1st overall in at least 50% of the last ten draft. Therefore, getting such a talent is an opportunity that arise once in many decade on average for organisation.

Michkov is such an obvious pick its not even funny.

Considering this rationale (i may overrate him tho), i doubt he is available at 5. If he is, there is already smoke. I think this new administration deserves the benefit of the doubt, Hughes built his career taking massive risk. They know when to pounces the table. I also think Dvorsky or Leonard or Reinbacher are more then simply two way 2nd liner. They have tools and upside to be top of the line-up players with intangibles, obviously, tho, these type of player is available in each and every draft top 10, unlike a talent like Michkov.

Personally, i won't turn on this risk averse organisation if they don't pick Michkov. I would tho, but i won't have any consequences from making this selection in my head.

The bottom line is, this pick is so important for the franchise, the Habs can't afford to miss it. If you go Reinbacher, he has to be a top pairing RD and the core of a top defense squad with Guhle and Hutson. Not picking Michkov might also be a major way to fail this pick.

We will see. It makes things f***ing interesting.

 

[Retired]

I'm going to be honest. If the Canadiens stay at 5, the top 4 goes as we expect, and they pick someone like Dvorsky over Michkov, I think I'm done with this team for a while.

I'm really tired of this type of risk-averse decision-making that continues to make the team mid and deprives us of high-end talent.

Describe ”someone like Dvorsky”?

Are you serious? Do you think our draft record has been good?

I'm not sure what your endgame is here. Is your implication that Canadiens management has actually been competent for the last 30 years?

They weren’t here for 28 and a half of those, so it’s ok you can let go of the anger now.

 

[Goalfield13]

How is our C position set?

Suzuki-Dach-Beck

 

[ReHabs]

Suzuki-Dach-Beck

It’s possible none of them will hit a career high of 70pts between all of them. If that is the case then this is not a good C line, not a serious C line. @Belial is correct in implying that our C depth is not complete.

 

[Goalfield13]

It’s possible none of them will hit a career high of 70pts between all of them. If that is the case then this is not a good C line, not a serious C line. @Belial is correct in implying that our C depth is not complete.

I disagree.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

We can agree that Michkov is a tier above any player in the draft beside Bedard. We can agree that Michkov would have been 1st overall in at least 50% of the last ten draft. Therefore, getting such a talent is an opportunity that arise once in many decade on average for organisation.

Michkov is such an obvious pick its not even funny.

Considering this rationale (i may overrate him tho), i doubt he is available at 5. If he is, there is already smoke. I think this new administration deserves the benefit of the doubt, Hughes built his career taking massive risk. They know when to pounces the table. I also think Dvorsky or Leonard or Reinbacher are more then simply two way 2nd liner. They have tools and upside to be top of the line-up players with intangibles, obviously, tho, these type of player is available in each and every draft top 10, unlike a talent like Michkov.

Personally, i won't turn on this risk averse organisation if they don't pick Michkov. I would tho, but i won't have any consequences from making this selection in my head.

The bottom line is, this pick is so important for the franchise, the Habs can't afford to miss it. If you go Reinbacher, he has to be a top pairing RD and the core of a top defense squad with Guhle and Hutson. Not picking Michkov might also be a major way to fail this pick.

We will see. It makes things f***ing interesting.

I really don't see it with Dvorsky. The tools just aren't there for me for him to compete with the top 5. Reinbacher is safe, but even if he ends up as a number 2, I think he'll be a very bland number 2 with very little offense. And maybe that could work, but then how will we acquire game-breaking talent up-front?

Leonard is the best of the bunch, though his inferior production and skill to the likes of Smith and even Perreault (in my view) concern me.

If Michkov falls to 5, you have to take him, because he is so far above the aforementioned trio, it's ridiculous. And then, you proceed to be an actual competent organization and get his ass over here without excuses.

Obviously, if he's not there at 5, you take whoever is, no harm, no foul. I'm still not certain Bobrov will even do that, though...

Describe ”someone like Dvorsky”?

Dvorsky gives me strong "jack of all trades, master of none" vibes. That said, he's actually fine as a prospect, even if we were drafting at 6, I just think the gulf between him and the top 5 and especially Michkov is quite significant.

They weren’t here for 28 and a half of those, so it’s ok you can let go of the anger now.

Our scouting staff is largely the same as our previous regime, and the one guy they added (because he was their buddy) to head things up seems like a f***ing idiot with no track record of success to me, so you'll forgive me if my confidence isn't at an all-time high. I don't have faith in them yet, which is not the same as being "angry." I'll have faith when we have some actual success at literally anything. So I don't have any anger to let go of. But you could let go of the condescending attitude if you like

 

[Whitesnake]

Mailloux? Barron?

Let's define premium then 'cause for me, none of those guys are premium yet or even seen as premium.

 

[Omar]

If Smith is gone and Michkov is not an option I don't think the remaining forwards are slam dunk first liners. Do you? I feel like there is about as much of a chance that Reinbacher becomes a top 2... at least it's close. Do you have a different opinion or do you just want to throw insults?

Saying I’m confused is an insult?

Anyways