Canadian Government Freezing Hockey Canada Funding- (2018 Canada World Jr Team Alleged Sexual Assault) PART 2

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What does it matter what happens in other countries. Who cares about Dominicans playing baseball.

This is about canada and the terrible culture we have created. Stop looking for excuses to justify this terrible behaviour. BuT lOoK aT oThEr CoUnTrIeS

In just saying it's not solely a Canadian problem.

If you think how we treat 13 year old hockey "stars" in Canada is wrong, you should see how they treat 12 year old baseball stars in the Dominican.

 

[I am toxic]

MP's are now requesting a judicial inquiry into abuse in sports, and Nater is once again - along with Sheldon Kennedy, members of the Committee, the Toronto Sun, Gilhooly now and many many others including myself* - calling for the leadership of Hockey Canada to resign:

Members of Parliament from four Canadian political parties are calling for the government to convene a judicial inquiry to explore the issue of abuse in sports and provide survivors with a forum to share their stories.

Conservative MP John Nater said his party is also calling for the immediate removal of Hockey Canada’s board of directors and senior leadership team.


“Those who oversaw the cover-up of alleged sexual assaults cannot be trusted to be the ones to implement the necessary structural changes at Hockey Canada,” Nater wrote in a text message to TSN on Friday. “The Liberal government must look at all options to ensure that there is appropriate leadership at Hockey Canada, whether through a third-party independent trusteeship, guardianship, or other measures.”

Nater was joined in calling for an inquiry by Liberal MP Lisa Hepfner, NDP MP Peter Julian and Bloc Quebecois MP Sebastien Lemire. The four MPs are members of the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage,

I know right? Hysterical.

* but silence from the Globe and Mail editorial board so far - how gutless can one possibly be, failing to take a position on sexual abuse of children in a matter of national significance.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

In just saying it's not solely a Canadian problem.

If you think how we treat 13 year old hockey "stars" in Canada is wrong, you should see how they treat 12 year old baseball stars in the Dominican.

That’s nice and all, but it doesn’t really do anything here.

Just because it’s not exclusively a Canadian problem, doesn’t mean that it’s not a Canadian problem

 

[MXD]

Flood occurs in nearly every country on the planet so no relief or preventive measures should be taken since flood occurs everywhere.

 

[WarriorofTime]

the problem with this attitude is that it's essentially trivializing it - just stating that it's a part of life that we just have to deal with.. in turns perpetuating the cycle and allowing those in power to avoid any accountability.

I'm uncomfortable with this notion that it's OBVIOUSLY worse in other countries/other sports, as though it's some notion that "if our good ol' hockey boys who wear suits and are well-media trained are doing this, imagine what THOSE DOMINICANS must be doing!"... and even if they are, so what? That means hockey can't do better? We know it can. So that should be the focus for those in the hockey world.

 

[57special]

What does Russian have to do with changing the outcome of facing abuse?

Exactly my point. Perhaps you should read the post I replied to.

 

[fcpremix88]

Flood occurs in nearly every country on the planet so no relief or preventive measures should be taken since flood occurs everywhere.

Exactly! I’ve accepted floods as a normal part of life. This is mostly because I've never experienced a flood personally.

And while I pity the women who drown - I can’t help but think they should’ve been better at swimming.

 

[super6646]

Exactly my point. Perhaps you should read the post I replied to.

I understand that the poster was being inappropriate with the latter remarks, but the way your post came off was insinuating their complaints didn't matter either. If that wasn't the intent, my mistake.

 

[KnightofBoston]

Where is the thread on the 2003 incident?

 

[caymanmew]

Where is the thread on the 2003 incident?

It's probably back a few pages, people got bored of it, likely because it doesn't really affect any current NHL players unless MAF was involved. This one is staying in the spotlight as those involved are currently in the NHL and HC is being grilled about this event specifically.

 

[Pink Mist]

IIHF to look into Hockey Canada cases


Now the IIHF is having an inquiry into it

 

[I am toxic]

Where is the thread on the 2003 incident?

It was locked and remains locked. So it drops off the main page and just keeps dropping further back.

If the mods created another one, or provided any rationale for locking it, I am not aware of it.

Believe me, if it were still open, it would be active. I mean . . .

 

[Zippity]

 

[I am toxic]

I believe iMac - who as you all know I absolutely detest more than anything, even antidotes, has been reporting on this.

Kudos, iMac. Now I hate you even more, because I have to hate you less.

 

[Craigo85]

Not sure why the hockey Canada executives need to resign ... They can be fired and then leave it to the court on whether it was for cause or not (doubt it would be since they were trying to limit liability for the organization).

If the board doesn't want to replace them, then would be curious on who's electing those people. If enough governments and organizations cut them off, would force their hand.

 

[shaner8989]

If you dig deep into any organization/business you will find dirt.

 

[SniperHF]

If the mods created another one, or provided any rationale for locking it, I am not aware of it.

Anytime there's no news on an event such as this, it spirals into generalities, a bunch of EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T THINK X/Y/Z IS A WOKE SIMP/PRO RAPE garbage food fight. There's no point in leaving such threads open without news. This usually results in 2-3 deleted PAGEs of posts and a ton of warnings/thread bans, as it did in this case.

The 2018 incident has much more active news/investigations going on at the moment.

Any news surrounding the 2003 allegations could warrant a new thread as needed. We don't need 40 page threads where everyone is trolling everyone else over generalities. This one itself is teetering on the brink occasionally.

 

[ORRFForever]

There's no point in leaving such threads open without news.

Amen. Please close the thread.

 

[wetcoast]

Lol, the horrors of accountability. So much hysteria.

You’re running out of straws to grasp against the “outrage mob”.

Again: you’re more concerned about the cancel culture than an organization that has covered rampant sexual abuse. Let that soak for a bit.

I asked the question of whom should lead HC then and 3 guys replied to score some likes as per usual.

I'm actually concerned with facilitating actual positive change not just change to satisfy the mob, the 3 replies were so sadly typical.

 

[SniperHF]

Amen. Please close the thread.

There was news a couple days ago, Though it was kinda drowned out in digressions on hazing and online porn. One could conceivably try and draw a line between these things but digressing too far results in non-hockey related talk.

As I said, teetering, not yet over.

 

[ORRFForever]

There was news a couple days ago, Though it was kinda drowned out in digressions on hazing and online porn. One could conceivably try and draw a line between these things but digressing too far results in non-hockey related talk.

As I said, teetering, not yet over.

It is the same 10 posters over and over and over and over and over, again.
There is nothing new.

 

[I am toxic]

Not sure why the hockey Canada executives need to resign ... They can be fired and then leave it to the court on whether it was for cause or not (doubt it would be since they were trying to limit liability for the organization).

If the board doesn't want to replace them, then would be curious on who's electing those people. If enough governments and organizations cut them off, would force their hand.

The 13 member orgs (eg. BC Hockey, Hockey Alberta) have the votes. 11 of them have 2 votes each, Quebec and one of the three Ontario orgs have 5 votes each.

32 total votes.

Need 5% to force an (unscheduled, special) meeting where vote could be held to oust the board. That is the second step.

To get there, the first step is that MHA's and similar would need to get one of the 13 member orgs' 2 votes to demand the special meeting.

To do that, it takes 10% of the votes (in BC at least, not sure of others) of the MHA's to force a special meeting at a member org level (eg BC Hockey).

I've already emailed my MHA encouraging them to do so. I encourage every hockey parent to consider doing the same.

 

[CanHeDoIt99]

It is the same 10 posters over and over and over and over and over, again.
There is nothing new.

Ironically this is typically better because the new posters are usually trolls coming in that haven't read anything other than the thread title and want to set off fireworks.

 

[ORRFForever]

Ironically this is typically better because the new posters are usually trolls coming in that haven't read anything other than the thread title and want to set off fireworks.

No, it's not. The 10 are self important posters who love to hear themselves talk and who need to go outside and swim or walk or make a friend or do some charitable work with their time.

 

[CanHeDoIt99]

No, it's not. The 10 are self important posters who love to hear themselves talk and who need to go outside and swim or walk or make a friend or do some charitable work with their time.

You're constantly in here reading them so isn't that worse?

Some people consider this to be the most important story in the sport right now.