Can Nylander crack 90 pts this season?

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Can Nylander crack 90 pts this season?

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  • No way

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  • hes close so 50/50

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So assuming Willie gets to 90 points, what does he sign for given Tkachuk got 9.5mx8 coming off a 105 point season? I'm thinking/hoping 8x8.8m max. and tell everybody you took a discount. Everybody is happy and fans do not rip the GM and player for the length of 88's stay.
 
So assuming Willie gets to 90 points, what does he sign for given Tkachuk got 9.5mx8 coming off a 105 point season? I'm thinking/hoping 8x8.8m max. and tell everybody you took a discount. Everybody is happy and fans do not rip the GM and player for the length of 88's stay.

I don't think he re-signs unless it is a different GM and Coach.

He might come up short of 90 points due to his deployment going forward.
 
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I don't think he re-signs unless it is a different GM and Coach.

He might come up short of 90 points due to his deployment going forward.
He should feast on 3rd liners, no?
 
I don't think he re-signs unless it is a different GM and Coach.

He might come up short of 90 points due to his deployment going forward.
Change is sometimes good. I can think of a million reasons why Willy wouldn't sign and that isn't one of them. 1 million bucks a year more is definitely one though.
It will be interesting. I wouldn't fault him for going for more money. It might be easier now that some of he swedish posse has been traded. Who is to know?
For all I know, Marner might be looking to bail for more cash and the fact that there were toxic fans taking runs at him and his family. Matthews might leave for more cash and warmer clims. I'm not worrying about it until its time.
 
Change is sometimes good. I can think of a million reasons why Willy wouldn't sign and that isn't one of them. 1 million bucks a year more is definitely one though.
It will be interesting. I wouldn't fault him for going for more money. It might be easier now that some of he swedish posse has been traded. Who is to know?
For all I know, Marner might be looking to bail for more cash and the fact that there were toxic fans taking runs at him and his family. Matthews might leave for more cash and warmer clims. I'm not worrying about it until its time.
LOL. I've challenged you before to provide a source for this and you got nothing. Why do you persist with this fiction?

All I heard of was one teenage kid saying something to Marner during the summer, can't remember exactly what but something about him being greedy or whatever because he had yet to sign. If there was anything more serious than that, I'm quite sure it would have been posted here.
 

Maple Leafs coach Sheldon Keefe has seen enough.

Or, when it comes to the recent play of William Nylander, not nearly enough.


The talented forward has gone three games without a point, during which his engagement has dropped off. It’s only the second time in 2022-23 that Nylander has produced zeroes on offence in three consecutive games.

Keefe has been down this road before with Nylander, where the player has required a verbal kick in the butt to get back on track. It appeared that Nylander had worked these sorts of lapses out of his game, but apparently, he’s not all the way there yet.

“He and I have talked about this,” Keefe said on Monday before the team departed for New York, where a game against the Islanders on Tuesday is the start to a four-game trip. “I just find when the puck is hitting his stick, his feet aren’t moving to the same degree on attacking. There’s a lot more perimeter, a lot more getting rid of the puck."

“I want him to hang on to it. I want him to challenge. I want him to be on the attack. I want to see lots of pace from him. That’s when he’s at his best. Get back to doing that. It’s been too long since we’ve seen that consistently from him. But as we’ve seen through most of the season, it’s certainly there.”

Nylander remains in second in Leafs scoring with 79 points in 69 games and has set a career-high with 35 goals. One more point will equal his career high. That makes his latest swoon a little more puzzling.


Keefe is keeping Nylander on a line with Sam Lafferty at centre and Bobby McMann on the left, a trio that worked together on Saturday in Ottawa against the Senators in the Leafs’ 5-4 shootout win.

“Playing him more with guys who are going to skate and move their feet, he can be the guy that really drives things,” Keefe said. “That’s really the idea and it’s nothing much beyond that.”
 

Maple Leafs coach Sheldon Keefe has seen enough.

Or, when it comes to the recent play of William Nylander, not nearly enough.


The talented forward has gone three games without a point, during which his engagement has dropped off. It’s only the second time in 2022-23 that Nylander has produced zeroes on offence in three consecutive games.

Keefe has been down this road before with Nylander, where the player has required a verbal kick in the butt to get back on track. It appeared that Nylander had worked these sorts of lapses out of his game, but apparently, he’s not all the way there yet.

“He and I have talked about this,” Keefe said on Monday before the team departed for New York, where a game against the Islanders on Tuesday is the start to a four-game trip. “I just find when the puck is hitting his stick, his feet aren’t moving to the same degree on attacking. There’s a lot more perimeter, a lot more getting rid of the puck."

“I want him to hang on to it. I want him to challenge. I want him to be on the attack. I want to see lots of pace from him. That’s when he’s at his best. Get back to doing that. It’s been too long since we’ve seen that consistently from him. But as we’ve seen through most of the season, it’s certainly there.”

Nylander remains in second in Leafs scoring with 79 points in 69 games and has set a career-high with 35 goals. One more point will equal his career high. That makes his latest swoon a little more puzzling.


Keefe is keeping Nylander on a line with Sam Lafferty at centre and Bobby McMann on the left, a trio that worked together on Saturday in Ottawa against the Senators in the Leafs’ 5-4 shootout win.

“Playing him more with guys who are going to skate and move their feet, he can be the guy that really drives things,” Keefe said. “That’s really the idea and it’s nothing much beyond that.”
"I can see that u are struggeling so i give u AHL players to play with, that will help... " Just put him on the left side of Matthews, tell him to play his best to get to stay. Carrots instead of a wip. This is a wip wrapped in a carrot.
 
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"I can see that u are struggeling so i give u AHL players to play with, that will help... " Just put him on the left side of Matthews, tell him to play his best to get to stay. Carrots instead of a wip. This is a wip wrapped in a carrot.
Sheldon does seem to have a Swedish whipping boy from time to time.

Willie is my favourite (of many) on this team. Hoping for a big night tonight against a fired up Engvall.

I would play Willie Higher in the lineup, if Jarnkrok is working with Matthews maybe slide him on that linand put Marner back with Johnny T
 
"I can see that u are struggeling so i give u AHL players to play with, that will help... " Just put him on the left side of Matthews, tell him to play his best to get to stay. Carrots instead of a wip. This is a wip wrapped in a carrot.
Willy does seem like someone who doesn't need anyone to score. Just like Kessel feasted on the third line in Pitt, Willy could do the same on a speed line.
 
Willy does seem like someone who doesn't need anyone to score. Just like Kessel feasted on the third line in Pitt, Willy could do the same on a speed line.
He will not reach 90p anyway and we are going to the playoffs. So no harm in trying stuff to get him going. But keefe should not try new stuff every game. If this third line dont work he better put Nylander on the left or right of Matthews. Marner is the best player for Tavares and since Marners shot is a lot better then before he is a big scoring threat too. Nylanders scoring touch has been way of the last 10 games or so..
 
I don't think he re-signs unless it is a different GM and Coach.

He might come up short of 90 points due to his deployment going forward.
Nah, Nylander has pretty much said that he needs a kick in the ass every now and then. IMO he's always had the thickest skin of the 3 youngins and it's not close, criticism has always rolled off him and he's never been one to bitch or complain.
 
Nah, Nylander has pretty much said that he needs a kick in the ass every now and then. IMO he's always had the thickest skin of the 3 youngins and it's not close, criticism has always rolled off him and he's never been one to bitch or complain.
Just once i would like to see how Nylander responded to the carrot treatment, especially this year when he mostly been good. Put him with Matthevs but to be able to stay on that line he need to play his best.
 
I do believe he can and so chose Yes.

He'll need 44 goals to do it though, so JT has to be on his game at 5/5 play and Sheldon needs to get Willy some 1PP time, and that oughtta do it.
13 games left and Willy will need points in almost all of them.

while JT has had a solid campaign and another point per, Willie and he havent been together as much as I'd thought they were going to be, not sure if he'll reach 44 goals but there's still a chance.
 
I tend to agree with Keefe, Willie is at his best when the others players just play a North-South game. He doesn't need someone to feed him the puck, or do all the digging for him. Willie's game is more suited with players who can create the odd man rush.
 
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The Kessel comparison is interesting in the sense that both guys thrive when they have the puck and neither needs to ride shotgun with another to control play

The problem with the third line idea though is that ultimately it's likely he gets short changed a few shifts in terms of usage which is a waste of his skillet.

The other issue is that it's highly likely the team will seek to extend him this summer, and guys like him likely tend to be happiest when they're in a prime role, not playing second fiddle (though obviously this is speculation)
 
The Kessel comparison is interesting in the sense that both guys thrive when they have the puck and neither needs to ride shotgun with another to control play

The problem with the third line idea though is that ultimately it's likely he gets short changed a few shifts in terms of usage which is a waste of his skillet.

The other issue is that it's highly likely the team will seek to extend him this summer, and guys like him likely tend to be happiest when they're in a prime role, not playing second fiddle (though obviously this is speculation)
I think Willie doesn't want to be 'The Man,' in the Danzel Washington's tone, of the team. He does want to be the one with the puck leading odd man rushes and breakaway though. He seems to be at his best if he plays with Dman that could make the stretch pass and forwards that can break out of the zone quick. Having McMann and Lafferty are good experiment.
 
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Coach thought Nylander was good against the Islanders. Didn't think others on the team were.

Also looked like he was trying to tell Tavares something at practice today. Didn't look like Tavares was onboard. Interesting off-season coming up.

 
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The quest to 90 points has hit a snag.

Don't know why they always choose Nylander to carry the bottom 6 plugs. I thought we were over the Marleau(RIP edition)-Nylander-Brown (stone hands version) experiments.

Now some scrub from the Hawks and an AHL player after being one of our MvPs all season.

Look at the standings. That's all core 4. Nothing else. Nylander is a huge factor in that core 4. Give the man some respect and put him back with Matthews to close out the year.
 
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I like the experiment. We know he can play with Matthews and it's likely he's there for game 83. But we're really not playing for much here (home ice is looking pretty solid), so let's see what he does with some speed and hustle. I'd give it another couple games.
 
Coach thought Nylander was good against the Islanders. Didn't think others on the team did.

Also looked like he was trying to tell Tavares something at practice today. Didn't look like Tavares was onboard. Interesting off-season coming up.

For a change I can agree with Keefe - he was one of the very few players who looked even decent last night (at least until he got stuck with JT).
 
The quest to 90 points has hit a snag.

Don't know why they always choose Nylander to carry the bottom 6 plugs. I thought we were over the Marleau(RIP edition)-Nylander-Brown (stone hands version) experiments.

Now some scrub from the Hawks and an AHL player after being one of our MvPs all season.

Look at the standings. That's all core 4. Nothing else. Nylander is a huge factor in that core 4. Give the man some respect and put him back with Matthews to close out the year.
I just don't see the issue . Nylander no matter who he plays with plays the same game . Mathews doesn't make Nylander any better at all , if aything Nylander carried Mathews this year . He's a bit of a unicorn on this team where most of what he gets he creates on his own .
The only player i could see merit in that Nylander would get his stats pumped up with is Marner but they play the same position .
The only concern i'd have is how many mins can you give him .
 
I just don't see the issue . Nylander no matter who he plays with plays the same game . Mathews doesn't make Nylander any better at all , if aything Nylander carried Mathews this year . He's a bit of a unicorn on this team where most of what he gets he creates on his own .
The only player i could see merit in that Nylander would get his stats pumped up with is Marner but they play the same position .
The only concern i'd have is how many mins can you give him .
It is a bigger chance for Nylander to score or assist when he is playing with better players, and it would be great if we could get him going again. That is why i want him on the left of Matthews or left of jarnkrok(did we ever try him as c) with Marner. But Nylander and Tavares aint the best together.
And he is a player that dont get worse playing many minutes. He should play a lot.
 
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The quest to 90 points has hit a snag.

Don't know why they always choose Nylander to carry the bottom 6 plugs. I thought we were over the Marleau(RIP edition)-Nylander-Brown (stone hands version) experiments.

Now some scrub from the Hawks and an AHL player after being one of our MvPs all season.

Look at the standings. That's all core 4. Nothing else. Nylander is a huge factor in that core 4. Give the man some respect and put him back with Matthews to close out the year.
Willy needs a boost for sure. The last 20 games, he has slowed down at a 86 pt pace. It actually isn't terrible at all but it is definitely a slow down during a time when the pace should be picking up.
Keefe mentioned that he isn't moving his skates as much. Playing where he is will definitely help but at the cost to points. Not sure how I feel about it TBH. Should the priority be that he get used to a faster more kinetic line to cure his malaise or should it be about him moving him to boost personal stats for the purpose of confidence? Is an 86 pt pace (cited above) really a lot different from a pace a bit north of 90?
 
Willy needs a boost for sure. The last 20 games, he has slowed down at a 86 pt pace. It actually isn't terrible at all but it is definitely a slow down during a time when the pace should be picking up.
Keefe mentioned that he isn't moving his skates as much. Playing where he is will definitely help but at the cost to points. Not sure how I feel about it TBH. Should the priority be that he get used to a faster more kinetic line to cure his malaise or should it be about him moving him to boost personal stats for the purpose of confidence? Is an 86 pt pace (cited above) really a lot different from a pace a bit north of 90?
his production will be crucial to the teams success in the playoffs, so it would be best if they put him in a position to help boost his numbers and confidence.

No doubt the Leafs need to be great defensively to win in the post-season, but at the risk of being obvious if you don't score you cannot win.

I don't care you get's the points but it's always best if you've got the scoring spread over as many in the line-up as possible

bringing it home at a ppg and Willy hits 90, tonights a night that's as good as any to get started

58 34 88 just do it Shelly
 

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