We acquired Talbot for a prospect goaltender. What kind of D can you acquire in the offseason with a prospect goaltender?
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We acquired Talbot for a prospect goaltender. What kind of D can you acquire in the offseason with a prospect goaltender?
Xspyrit
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So Dorion really threw an extension at Talbot? Damn, only Alfie and Ryan Reynolds could save him from himself
Damn, we're lucky it was turned down
Surprised? I am way way beyond that type of reaction with Dorion. Now it's a mix of laughter, frustration, sadness and joy.
I would trade Talbot, Joseph, a 2nd, a 4th and maybe more to get back any of Paul, Brown or Gustavsson.
Our pro scouting has been so harmful
Damn, we're lucky it was turned down
Surprised? I am way way beyond that type of reaction with Dorion. Now it's a mix of laughter, frustration, sadness and joy.
I would trade Talbot, Joseph, a 2nd, a 4th and maybe more to get back any of Paul, Brown or Gustavsson.
Our pro scouting has been so harmful
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I think space in the budget might have been the key resource that could have been re-allocated,
That said, it's tough to argue hypothetical moves, I mean, we could have used the room we allocated on Talbot to improve the D by signing someone like Rutta but it takes two to make a trade or sign a contract,
I'm of the mind that we should be running with a goalie of the future as our backup once they hit waiver eligibility, I don't mind having a more proven vet like Talbot while a guy like Gus or Sogaard proves themselves, where I think we made a mistake was extending Forsberg earlier if we didn't think he was good enough to be that proven vet when we knew Gus was going to be waiver eligible. When we signed Forsberg, I assumed it was for him to be that vet.
In the end, it seems the team had given up on Gus, and needed to bridge to Sogaard instead.
AchtzehnBaby
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Anytime a goalie gets beat short side like that it doesn't look good. Screen or no screen, positioning shouldn't change too much just because of that.
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The sight line was fine, he was just worried about needing to respect the pass option so he couldn't come out
I thought he had a great bounce back after the second goal, made some big saves. If he plays like that every game, you're pretty happy imo
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I think it's because the sens were outshooting Detroit like 20-9 or something and the score was 2-1 Detroit, and they hear Talbot didn't want to re-sign in Ottawa, so naturally people put all this info and think "f Talbot" and then the fact Ottawa poured it on offensively for 6 goals doesn't affect their thoughts on Talbot who's irrelevant for offense.
Fairly or unfairly, he would get negative comments.
Fairly or unfairly, he would get negative comments.
AchtzehnBaby
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He didn’t say he didn’t want to resign in ottawa
It is more like he doesn’t like the offer.
Remember when EK65 did that?
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Well, we don't know why he rejected the offer, if the reports are even accurate, but tbh most people were happy he didn't extend since his season has been really up and down, when he's good he's been good enough to give us a chance to win, but when he's been bad, he's been really bad. Is that on him, or the 5 guys in front of him, or a combination of the two, idk, but if we want to contend we need to sort that stuff outHe didn’t say he didn’t want to resign in ottawa
It is more like he doesn’t like the offer.
Remember when EK65 did that?
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Nothing to see, I really dislike the trade, I think Talbot is an average goalie at the NHL level but the average fan doesn't know/understand goaltending much. Heck I have played with some guys for decades and they still ask me basic questions
Full credit to Bertuzzi on the 1st goal, slick move, great reach that kinda threw Talbot off guard who didn't expect Bertuzzi to be able to pull that off and go all around him
2nd goal is on the PP, David Perron is a vet who now scored 284 NHL goals. He just used Hamonic as a screen for a fraction second. The most important thing for a goalie when facing a shot is to see all the angles (puck, stick, ice location, etc) and how the puck was shot. Talbot could have stopped it but it would have been a reaction save, not from anticipation. I made a save like that last game with my right shoulder. There was a lot of traffic and didn't see anything, just saw the puck at the last second and had a quick reaction. But you're not going to save all of these all the time.
So this is just usual fans complaining about things they don't know. Heck you have no idea how some people here in Montreal went full Pejorative Slur to blast Carey Price for years.
Full credit to Bertuzzi on the 1st goal, slick move, great reach that kinda threw Talbot off guard who didn't expect Bertuzzi to be able to pull that off and go all around him
2nd goal is on the PP, David Perron is a vet who now scored 284 NHL goals. He just used Hamonic as a screen for a fraction second. The most important thing for a goalie when facing a shot is to see all the angles (puck, stick, ice location, etc) and how the puck was shot. Talbot could have stopped it but it would have been a reaction save, not from anticipation. I made a save like that last game with my right shoulder. There was a lot of traffic and didn't see anything, just saw the puck at the last second and had a quick reaction. But you're not going to save all of these all the time.
So this is just usual fans complaining about things they don't know. Heck you have no idea how some people here in Montreal went full Pejorative Slur to blast Carey Price for years.
AchtzehnBaby
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Everyone needs to realize we have shitty defence in front of the goalies for years. All goalies have shit games but some of this fan base has never been happy with the netminders for years. They love the prospects… they also don’t love the goalies until they are gone. Talbot was a good pickup. He may have had some struggles, but for this team to move forward we need to accept that we are not always have the leagues best in every position. We need a balanced group with strengths and weaknesses.
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I don't really disagree with most of your post, but I have to nitpick on the 2nd goal.
Looked like he was cheating, anticipating the pass, but technically he should have never come off his post. There shouldn't have been space to score short side. I was watching the Red Wings feed and the commentator made a similar note. Hamonic should probably do something other than try and play goalie on that play, but if Talbot stays where he's "supposed" to be the puck doesn't go in.
All that said, in Talbot fashion, he gave one up that he probably shouldn't of and then settled down to play a solid game. I feel like he's good for one or two of these brain farts/game, but as you alluded to he's still an average NHL goalie so he ends up regressing to the middle a little bit.
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Well, they have a point. In the 30 years the teams been around, how many seasons did we go into the season with a top 10 netminder? Maybe the Hasek year and a couple Andy years where he missed half the year, but even then he was more ranked in the 10-20 range or even 20-30 for most of his time here.
Historically, we haven't had great goaltending, so historically, you should notice a lot of goaltending criticism. We never have a top goalie for any stretch of seasons like other teams have.
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probably wrong way to think about it… but, I think some people love to get on board the latest player hate-train without even looking at the stats/facts.
probably wrong way to think about it… but, I think some people love to get on board the latest player hate-train without even looking at the stats/facts.
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Neither guy is a starter in this league and that's just the way it is. They can both be complimentary pieces on a good team.
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AchtzehnBaby
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So is our defence.
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So is our defence.
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No arguments there.
Bruce commented last game that he didn’t even think an official offer was made…
it’s all speculation.
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Bruce hasn't been very plugged in lately, we signed Zub the day after he said they were nowhere close, I agree it's all speculative but I have very little faith in Bruce's speculation these days.
Eh, It’s all speculation, even about how plugged in or not Bruce is. He says the same stuff he’s always said.
I have the same amount of faith I’ve always had in all of the insiders, which is little.
