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C Trent Frederic (2016, 29th, BOS)

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Garbage Goal said:
Um, aside from the clear-cut aggression and defensiveness you just resorted to over a post directed at nobody in particular...













Yeah, sure, nothing aggressive or sensationalist or reactionary through there. Not like he was directly referenced in comparison to Marchand, Toews, Backes, and Bergeron, the Senyshyn was held on equal footing to the Connor or Barzal picks, or as if there were any unnecessary and unusually aggressive personal attacks.

Yep, people definitely aren't hyping up a pick and overcompensating for past sleights about it by taking prime opportunity after a four point game heavily skew his stats early in his post-draft year to pump his tires and attack others.

No, definitely none of the above happening.
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You must be new. This is the prospects board and prospects get talked about when there is something to talk about since this is a message board. So you can get all worked up about others discussing the prospect ( just like every other ****ing prospect ) if you want; that's your choice.
 
Magua said:
Ummm...what? Connor and Barzal have been everything they were hyped to be since they were drafted. And then some. Konecny too for that matter, as he was often grouped with them in that range. But whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.
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True, the Bruins first round is looking disappointing but their second round is looking great. Lots of teams screwed up by passing on Carlo.
 
Points are nice, but my impression of Frederic is not based on them. I was watching a UW game, mainly in order to see Kunin, and I thought, " who's that guy?". He's someone who's skill, speed, and size sticks out at the NCAA level.

Not a Bruin's fan, so no vested interest. Frederic looks like he has the sort of game that will wear well in the NHL. Whether it will be in the top 6, or bottom six...who knows. I see nothing that would disqualify him from playing in the top 6.
 
VeddarRants said:
You must be new. This is the prospects board and prospects get talked about when there is something to talk about since this is a message board. So you can get all worked up about others discussing the prospect ( just like every other ****ing prospect ) if you want; that's your choice.
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:laugh: I know seriously


Is saying the Bruins are better at evaluating talent than random HF poster X also a personal attack now? No it's a statement of fact.
 
Yep, that's the skill I saw. Don't see anything wrong with the skating, either. He is also a good passer, and plays both ways. What's not to like?
 
That's some weak D play from the RD on that power play goal. Needed to be playing the middle of the ice more to box him out. Still nice head fake though!
 
Rights dealt from Niagara to Windsor yesterday in the deal where the Spitfires picked up Graham Knott. No word on whether he is expected to show up but very doubtful it seems.
 
I link a lot of teams are wiseing up to the fact there there is a lot of talent in the USNDP that gets hidden behind the elite players.

Larkin, Fischer, White, and now Frederic are all guys that had less than steller numbers in the NDP that went on to explode in their draft+1 season.
 
bearcountry17 said:
Trent Frederic as of today has the highest PPG in the NCAA for freshman, 13th highest for all players.
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Clayton Keller is leading in ppg for freshman. Frederic is second though. Keller is at 1.53 Frederic is at 1.28. Keller plays today so his ppg is going to change.
 
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bearcountry17 said:
My bad, thanks for pointing that out. Got the info from this site but Keller isn't even listed.

http://collegehockeyinc.com/stats/filters17.php

Still pretty impressive. I'm rooting hard for the kid.
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Yeah it's really impressive.

In regards to keller you have to take BU stats with a grain of salt considering they are absolutely STACKED.

13 drafted players on the roster.
4 1sts
3 2nds

NCAA teams average around 5 draft picks which is what Wisconsin has
 
Breakers said:
Yeah it's really impressive.

In regards to keller you have to take BU stats with a grain of salt considering they are absolutely STACKED.

13 drafted players on the roster.
4 1sts
3 2nds

NCAA teams average around 5 draft picks which is what Wisconsin has
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I'd argue that Keller is the driving force there. He's the best player on BU and leading the team in scoring with a drastic games played disadvantage.

That is not to take anything from Frederic though.
 
Breakers said:
Yeah it's really impressive.

In regards to keller you have to take BU stats with a grain of salt considering they are absolutely STACKED.

13 drafted players on the roster.
4 1sts
3 2nds

NCAA teams average around 5 draft picks which is what Wisconsin has
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Fair enough, BU absolutely is stacked, but since they have basically 2 first lines it can impact the ice-time guys get.

As someone who loosely follows college hockey but is by no means as well versed on it as the CHL, are people still really questioning the Big 10's overall depth and quality? Last year Michigan absolutely destroyed the league with their stars putting up insane numbers.

Frederic's numbers look good considering the backlash he got. He seems like a 3-year guy though, I'd be surprised to see him in the AHL next year.
 
Hey I thought this was a thread on Trent Frederic. Who the F is Tanner Lascynski? Clayton Keller?

Back to Frederic - U. Wisconsin finished in last place in the Big 10 in 15-16. They SUCKED for years before he came onto the scene. Now look - WISC is leading the big 10 and are nationally ranked. Kunin is a player, for sure - but Frederic has been better!

He's looking like a really beauty of a late 1st round pick. Now, where is that Tanner Lascynski thread? :crickets:
 
Son of Donegal said:
Hey I thought this was a thread on Trent Frederic. Who the F is Tanner Lascynski? Clayton Keller?

Back to Frederic - U. Wisconsin finished in last place in the Big 10 in 15-16. They SUCKED for years before he came onto the scene. Now look - WISC is leading the big 10 and are nationally ranked. Kunin is a player, for sure - but Frederic has been better!

He's looking like a really beauty of a late 1st round pick. Now, where is that Tanner Lascynski thread? :crickets:
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I like Frederic, but Kunin is clearly the better player at this point. Greenway, Hughes, and Besse all contribute a lot, also. They also have a real coaching staff this year. To imply that UW improvement is just, or mainly, because of Frederic is absurd.
 
http://thesportsdaily.com/madtown-b...ealthy-trent-frederic-to-second-half-success/

No player has seen a bigger turnaround than freshman forward Trent Frederic, who one could argue has been the biggest key to Wisconsin’s success. Yes, a freshman has been a lynchpin to Wisconsin men’s hockey success in the 2016-17 season.
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Granto hasn’t been shy about his praise for Frederic either. Following Wisconsin’s split with Michigan last weekend, the head man was asked who was the most consistent player in the first half of the season. His answer was a simple one — Trent Fredric.
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57special said:
I like Frederic, but Kunin is clearly the better player at this point. Greenway, Hughes, and Besse all contribute a lot, also. They also have a real coaching staff this year. To imply that UW improvement is just, or mainly, because of Frederic is absurd.
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You're right and I was partially kidding...Frederic isn't THAT good. Granato and co. play an exciting brand of hockey and they have the horses needed to win some games.

One interesting thing to note - while Frederic was out with injury, Wisconsin went 2-3-1 while losing to Omaha, Merrimack and Colorado College. Those are some of the weaker teams in NCAA hockey.

Kunin has the pedigree and the higher top level upside. Frederic has shown that he is so much more than a two-way grinder, though...and I think folks are right to be excited about him.
 
Son of Donegal said:
You're right and I was partially kidding...Frederic isn't THAT good. Granato and co. play an exciting brand of hockey and they have the horses needed to win some games.

One interesting thing to note - while Frederic was out with injury, Wisconsin went 2-3-1 while losing to Omaha, Merrimack and Colorado College. Those are some of the weaker teams in NCAA hockey.

Kunin has the pedigree and the higher top level upside. Frederic has shown that he is so much more than a two-way grinder, though...and I think folks are right to be excited about him.
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Omaha and Merrimack are far from the weakest teams in college, Omaha is receiving votes for the top 20 and Merrimack just swept BU a couple weeks ago. CC hasn't beaten Wisconsin this year either so idk where you got that from. During that time period they did lose to Denver the day after CC that might be where it's coming from.
 
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