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C Shane Wright (2022, 4th, SEA) Part 4

People saying we shouldn't judge Shane Wright too harshly need to remember that Shane Wright said he DESERVED TO BE #1 in the draft, and then proceeded to stare down the team that didn't take him #1. Just overall a very cocky attitude when he didn't earn any of it. He created pressure for himself for no good reason other than his ego and so far hasn't been able to back any of it up.
 
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People always say, "he is only (x) age, he has only played 50 games" or whatever cliche, but I don't really stat watch and have an opinion. When you watch him, he just doesn't make a difference. Some guys figure it out later, but a lot of times, when you are highly touted, you either show it right away or you just don't get there. There are exceptions, but I just don't see it with Wright, right now.
 
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TLEH said:
...he just doesn't make a difference. Some guys figure it out later, but a lot of times, when you are highly touted, you either show it right away or you just don't get there. There are exceptions, but I just don't see it with Wright, right now.
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That's fair but he is only 19 - the negativity in this thread is getting silly.

In hindsight, 4th overall was probably right and he's going to need some time - there are plenty of players who develop slowly. If he fails, then he fails, but only time will tell.
 
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Danarqhy said:
People saying we shouldn't judge Shane Wright too harshly need to remember that Shane Wright said he DESERVED TO BE #1 in the draft, and then proceeded to stare down the team that didn't take him #1. Just overall a very cocky attitude when he didn't earn any of it. He created pressure for himself for no good reason other than his ego and so far hasn't been able to back any of it up.
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He's an 18 year old kid man, don't take it too personally.

Edit: 18 when the draft stuff in the quoted post happened.
 
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ORRFForever said:
That's fair but he is only 19 - the negativity in this thread is getting silly.

In hindsight, 4th overall was probably right and he's going to need some time - there are plenty of players who develop slowly. If he fails, then he fails, but only time will tell.
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Absolutely. I don't want him to fail. Don't want anyone to fail. Just feel like elite players show it instantly, even if they aren't scoring. Time will tell for sure.
 
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ORRFForever said:
19 but, yeah, there seems to be a lot of unnecessary venom directed his way - kids do stupid things and, often, they end up being their own worst enemy.
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I feel like that's people's point though. From here, it looks like the main enemy to Shane Wright not becoming what he was expected to be is Shane Wright. You can never tell for sure from a distance but all the warning signs are there.

And when that happens, it's time to downgrade expectations. He could still be great. He's not short on talent or time. But if his main problem is Shane Wright, that's not going to go away easily with the right coach.
 
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I feel like that's people's point though. From here, it looks like the main enemy to Shane Wright not becoming what he was expected to be is Shane Wright. You can never tell for sure from a distance but all the warning signs are there.

And when that happens, it's time to downgrade expectations. He could still be great. He's not short on talent or time. But if his main problem is Shane Wright, that's not going to go away easily with the right coach.
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That's fair but I still think it is too early - although, lowered expectations might be a positive for the kid.

One problem is he set expectation thru the roof during the U18's. He was just fantastic and everyone was expect the 2nd coming of Bergeron. But, after that, he seemed to stop pushing himself.

When people questioned his motor, I stood up for him saying he didn't want to get hurt before the draft. Well, he's been drafted and it's time to <bleep> or get off the pot.

Anyway, again, time will tell.
 
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Danarqhy said:
People saying we shouldn't judge Shane Wright too harshly need to remember that Shane Wright said he DESERVED TO BE #1 in the draft, and then proceeded to stare down the team that didn't take him #1. Just overall a very cocky attitude when he didn't earn any of it. He created pressure for himself for no good reason other than his ego and so far hasn't been able to back any of it up.
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He's really not very cocky at all. Not the most well spoken kid but not cocky either. No reason to hate on the kid for how he answered one of a bazillion interview questions directed at him. The pressure and expectations on him were already there, that's not his fault.
 
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Peasy said:
Man just doesnt seem to have "it", which is what youre looking for when picking a prospect in the top 5.
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I agree, I saw him play in Milwaukee over the weekend and that was my first thought, just doesn't look like a player you would expect to take with a Top 5 pick. Having been able to see a lot of Beniers, Power, Hughes and Johnson I think he is well behind those guys as far as NHL upside.
 
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Herby said:
I agree, I saw him play in Milwaukee over the weekend and that was my first thought, just doesn't look like a player you would expect to take with a Top 5 pick. Having been able to see a lot of Beniers, Power, Hughes and Johnson I think he is well behind those guys as far as NHL upside.
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I saw him play live twice in the OHL and, while he was the best player on the ice in both games, he does NOT bring you out of your seat.
 
majormajor said:
He's really not very cocky at all. Not the most well spoken kid but not cocky either. No reason to hate on the kid for how he answered one of a bazillion interview questions directed at him. The pressure and expectations on him were already there, that's not his fault.
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I think he's suffering from a lack of confidence.

First, in his draft year, people dumped on him constantly.

Second, Montreal passed him by, and so did 2 other teams, after being told he would be the 1OA for years.

Last, things have not started like he'd hoped in the NHL/AHL - including getting hurt.

I just don't want another "LAF".
 
WhiskeyYerTheDevils said:
Gifted any NHL ice time when he was clearly not ready. Some players are able to take advantage of small window of ice time and earn more over the course of the season. He obviously did not. He should have been sent back to junior (even if Kingston wasn't a preferred destination).
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Completely agree, he should have been back in the OHL from the start.
 
WhiskeyYerTheDevils said:
A lot of people were comparing him to Bergeron for some reason.

At this point it doesn't look like he'll end up anywhere near either of those two.
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Every time a player is underwhelming offensively that players supporters will claim it's "because they play a 2-way game" which inevitably leads to a Bergeron comparison for any highly hyped player who is underwhelming offensively.

In reality, there are almost no "defensive minded" players in the CHL with the talent required to play in the NHL. Players with NHL talent should be able to dominate the CHL even if they will ultimately become defensive or role players at the NHL level. There are exceptions, but these are rare so claims that "he's sacrificing offense for his 2-way" game are almost always BS.

Wright was still a good CHL player but in his draft year he didn't produce like a top 5 draft pick should. He looked like a player who belonged in the 6-10 range which can start to become a little hit and miss.
 
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Wright will be a good NHL player, not a great one. A good 2-way 2nd liner. Probably fine for Seattle as Beniers has the #1 centre spot locked up. Slafkovsky also looks like a future 2nd liner. Big guy, solid, but not super high end talent or hands.

Cooley, Jiricek, and Nemec look like the star quality players from the top 7 picks.
 
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Shane Wright is in the right spot, but he may have to return to OHL next season

The No. 4 pick in the 2022 NHL Draft had to yo-yo around this season and may have to do it again in the next campaign because of the NHL-CHL agreement.
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The Seattle Kraken No. 4 pick in the 2022 NHL Draft, is playing in the Calder Cup Finals with the Coachella Valley Firebirds – he and his teammates will try to force a Game 7 tonight – and he’s been getting better with each shift.

The Kraken brass have noticed it, Wright’s coaches have noticed it, and anyone with a whiff of hockey acumen can see the progress in Wright’s game from the start of the AHL playoffs to now.
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I saw Wright play a number times in the OHL, both televised and live. What I saw of him there, is still the player he is now. He isn't a guy who will ever make you jump out of your seat. He rarely makes wow plays at all. He's just a guy with good skills, ok speed, and understands the game well. You may not even notice him too much in game, and then look at the score sheet, and he had three points. He's going to be a quiet guy, who is just effective at the game. He'll be over PPG in the AHL next year, and hopefully they keep him there all year. The year after that, he'll be in the NHL, and it will probably take him a year or so, to completely figure that out. Then he'll be a decent #2 C man, who you never notice much, but then he has 60 points on the season. He'll be fine.
 
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Fogelhund said:
I saw Wright play a number times in the OHL, both televised and live. What I saw of him there, is still the player he is now. He isn't a guy who will ever make you jump out of your seat. He rarely makes wow plays at all. He's just a guy with good skills, ok speed, and understands the game well. You may not even notice him too much in game, and then look at the score sheet, and he had three points. He's going to be a quiet guy, who is just effective at the game. He'll be over PPG in the AHL next year, and hopefully they keep him there all year. The year after that, he'll be in the NHL, and it will probably take him a year or so, to completely figure that out. Then he'll be a decent #2 C man, who you never notice much, but then he has 60 points on the season. He'll be fine.
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Hey! You stole my line... (half joking)

"I saw him play live twice in the OHL and, while he was the best player on the ice in both games, he does NOT bring you out of your seat." - post 1214 (above)

No worries, I'm sure it wasn't intentional and you are spot on - we both saw / experienced the same thing.

I hope he'll be higher than 60 points - more in the 70's range with a wonderful plus/minus.
 
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Fogelhund said:
I saw Wright play a number times in the OHL, both televised and live. What I saw of him there, is still the player he is now. He isn't a guy who will ever make you jump out of your seat. He rarely makes wow plays at all. He's just a guy with good skills, ok speed, and understands the game well. You may not even notice him too much in game, and then look at the score sheet, and he had three points. He's going to be a quiet guy, who is just effective at the game. He'll be over PPG in the AHL next year, and hopefully they keep him there all year. The year after that, he'll be in the NHL, and it will probably take him a year or so, to completely figure that out. Then he'll be a decent #2 C man, who you never notice much, but then he has 60 points on the season. He'll be fine.
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So in 2 years, he might be a 2nd line center? I mean Ron Francis might be content with that and obviously it is better than nothing but imagine being kicked in the balls and being told it's a good thing.
 
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