C Shane Wright (2022, 4th, SEA) Part 4

[nbwingsfan]

Yea Wright definitely wasn’t a puck hound. He had that one shift in the semis I think it was and a good finals, but up until, he wasn’t bad but hardly a difference maker.

He wasn’t breaking up plays all tournament long, and I’d say his offense was average up until the fjnals. Most of his points were on the PP and on the back of Bedards work


You need to learn the rules

You also thought Fantilli was better than Bedard so I’m not going to spend much time responding to this.

Wright was Canadas best forward defensively

 

[NHL Dude 120]

Has he burned a year on his ELC?

 

[Fatass]

You also thought Fantilli was better than Bedard so I’m not going to spend much time responding to this.

Wright was Canadas best forward defensively

Wright was very good. His play away from the puck was exceptional. Very much a leader.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Has he burned a year on his ELC?

Nope

Wright was very good. His play away from the puck was exceptional. Very much a leader.

Yup. No idea how anyone could watch the games and come away thinking any differently

 

[Leaf Rocket]

I hope they do right by this guy because man that's a lot of freaking bouncing around.

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

I believe you need to have 4 years of CHL eligibility before you can turn pro.

Since Wright was given exceptional status at 15, he’s finished his 4 years after this season

I know of the rule, but are you sure it kicks in even though Wright didn't play in the OHL as a 16yo?

 

[Jives]

I know of the rule, but are you sure it kicks in even though Wright didn't play in the OHL as a 16yo?

Wright can only play OHL or NHL. AHL is not an option….100% on that.

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

Shane Wright was "still one of the best overall forwards" at the world junior tournament. Geez, you'd never know that reading Hockey's Future Prospects Board.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Shane Wright was "still one of the best overall forwards" at the world junior tournament. Geez, you'd never know that reading Hockey's Future Prospects Board.

As I said in another thread, the people who are saying Wright didn't have a good tournament are people who are still judging him by their standard of what *they* think he should be doing and not judging him based on how he actually played.

Wright played like a strong two-way center who was a point per game in the tournament, but people will be critical of him because he didn't average 2 points per game and wasn't a dynamic, end-to-end rusher making highlight reel plays.

 

[nbwingsfan]

I know of the rule, but are you sure it kicks in even though Wright didn't play in the OHL as a 16yo?

Yes.

20yo players weren’t allowed to play in the OHL at 21 for example just because they skipped the Covid year

Wright can only play OHL or NHL. AHL is not an option….100% on that.

99% sure this is incorrect.

He’s now played his 4 years of eligibility after this season so he would be able to go minor pro next season. Same reason why Veleno could play AHL at 19

 

[99GoHabsGo99]

I followed Shane Wright alot leading up to the draft, I don't get the hate.

I love him, I think he's an awesome guy and a great player..

Honestly this years draft is going to be a toss up between Slafkovsky/wright/cooley/nemac etc for the next 5 yrs.. Who knows who will turn out the best but I really don't understand the hate wright gets.. He's a great guy it's pretty messed up honestly lol.

Hope the best for him and I wish personally as a Habs fan we could've had both him and Slafkovsky lol

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Yes.

20yo players weren’t allowed to play in the OHL at 21 for example just because they skipped the Covid year


99% sure this is incorrect.

He’s now played his 4 years of eligibility after this season so he would be able to go minor pro next season. Same reason why Veleno could play AHL at 19

He’s wrong - Just because he didn’t play doesn’t mean he gained an extra year of eligibility.

You’re absolutely WRIGHT on this on mate.

 

[Corso]

As I said in another thread, the people who are saying Wright didn't have a good tournament are people who are still judging him by their standard of what *they* think he should be doing and not judging him based on how he actually played.

Wright played like a strong two-way center who was a point per game in the tournament, but people will be critical of him because he didn't average 2 points per game and wasn't a dynamic, end-to-end rusher making highlight reel plays.

Wright is the classic case of misjudged expectations. A lot of us here believed he would be a dynamic offensive player during his draft year and would absolutely dominated a WJC if he were to play one during is D+1 year but that is not the type of player Wright is. He is not going to become a 90 point player that drives his line in the NHL. He will become a good cerebral two way player who will impact the game in subtle ways; always helping his team win.

 

[CupInSIX]

I was impressed by his WJC performance. I think there's a good chance he'll become as good as Hischier.

 

[NewEraGM]

You also thought Fantilli was better than Bedard so I’m not going to spend much time responding to this.

Wright was Canadas best forward defensively

Lol I said I might be starting to have Fantilli ahead of Bedard BEFORE the tournament. Pretty sure every one here has said something they were wrong about or would take back…

And I’m mature enough to admit I was wrong.

Wright was invisible for most of the tournament. He was good defensively but he wasn’t some “Bergeron” type player for Canada out there like you made him out to be.

 

[Tanknation]

Nope

Yup. No idea how anyone could watch the games and come away thinking any differently

I'm a Habs fan and a Wright hater. But even I can admit he played very well Defensively

 

[nbwingsfan]

Lol I said I might be starting to have Fantilli ahead of Bedard BEFORE the tournament. Pretty sure every one here has said something they were wrong about or would take back…

And I’m mature enough to admit I was wrong.

Wright was invisible for most of the tournament. He was good defensively but he wasn’t some “Bergeron” type player for Canada out there like you made him out to be.

Every stat, and eye test, completely disagrees with you.

He was a great two way player, probably Canadas best defensively, the entire tournament

 

[ijuka]

Every stat, and eye test, completely disagrees with you.

He was a great two way player, probably Canadas best defensively, the entire tournament

Well if Lassi Alanen's cards are to be believed, at least Joshua Roy was better both defensively as well as offensively, and Bedard's obvious.

Shane Wright also ranked pretty low in game score/60, nowhere near the best on his team. Although I haven't subscribed to get all the cards.

But those cards had Fabian Lysell as an overall 95 player so I wonder how much weight I'd put into them for such a short tournament. Think Lysell was trash. I think its defensive stat is rather arbitrary and to me it makes no sense that Logan Cooley has twice the game score/60 of Shane Wright but is a 87 overall when Wright is a 97 overall.

 

[Celly4Celebrini]

Wright is the classic case of misjudged expectations. A lot of us here believed he would be a dynamic offensive player during his draft year and would absolutely dominated a WJC if he were to play one during is D+1 year but that is not the type of player Wright is. He is not going to become a 90 point player that drives his line in the NHL. He will become a good cerebral two way player who will impact the game in subtle ways; always helping his team win.

I think theres alot of truth in this, and correct me if wrong but he was the first OHL exceptional player after McDavid (Laf was in the Q) and that led to people thinking hed have the same offensive skills as McDavid but thats just not Wrights game. Canada also had Bedard who is the closest to McDavid in terms of offensive skills in a decade and yeah i think people expected Wright to be a different player.

Wright is a guy who does everything very, very well, but lacks a truely elite skill such as skating or shooting

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

I'm a Habs fan and a Wright hater. But even I can admit he played very well Defensively

Why are you a "Wright hater"? Hate seems like such a strong feeling to have toward an 18-year-old hockey player you've never met.

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

I think theres alot of truth in this, and correct me if wrong but he was the first OHL exceptional player after McDavid (Laf was in the Q) and that led to people thinking hed have the same offensive skills as McDavid but thats just not Wrights game. Canada also had Bedard who is the closest to McDavid in terms of offensive skills in a decade and yeah i think people expected Wright to be a different player.

Wright is a guy who does everything very, very well, but lacks a truely elite skill such as skating or shooting

Going to disagree with you there. I would say his shot/release is elite. Not as good as Bedard's, but his wrist shot is elite. Don't use his point totals as an argument against this because there were other elite shooters from the 2022 draft who had fewer goals than Wright -- Kemell and Ohgren to name two.

 

[NewEraGM]

Every stat, and eye test, completely disagrees with you.

He was a great two way player, probably Canadas best defensively, the entire tournament

That’s actually not entirely true. Right off the top of my head, Roy and Bedard had better defense analytics than Wright.

He was good defensively but he wasn’t the best if you look at the numbers or even the eye test. For several games , he wasn’t noticeable, I thought he had a really good gold medal game, and he had a few shifts in the finals.

But for 2-3 other games, he wasn’t noticeable or a difference maker on either side of the puck.

 

[nbwingsfan]

That’s actually not entirely true. Right off the top of my head, Roy and Bedard had better defense analytics than Wright.

He was good defensively but he wasn’t the best if you look at the numbers or even the eye test. For several games , he wasn’t noticeable, I thought he had a really good gold medal game, and he had a few shifts in the finals.

But for 2-3 other games, he wasn’t noticeable or a difference maker on either side of the puck.

Bedard absolutely in no way shape or form was better defensively.

Another stratosphere offensively, like everyone else in the tournament, but certainly not defensively.

 

[NewEraGM]

Bedard absolutely in no way shape or form was better defensively.

Another stratosphere offensively, like everyone else in the tournament, but certainly not defensively.

Check the analytics. Bedard was in the 98th percentile. Roy was in the 94th percentile. Wright was 89th percentile.

So instead of saying that “all the number favor Wright” maybe you should actually check those numbers before saying things like that.

Additionally, on faceoffs, Stankoven and Gaucher were ahead.

Bedard absolutely in no way shape or form was better defensively.

Another stratosphere offensively, like everyone else in the tournament, but certainly not defensively.

And for what it’s worth, I’m not a huge believer in analytics. I think they are overused, very subjective and don’t always say the full story, but you’re the one who brought up the “numbers” so I’m just commenting on those

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I thought Wright was underwhelming in the tournament and particularly on faceoffs. Thought his best game was in the final.

Logan Cooley was dynamic. Wright was not. I think Arizona made the Wright choice.