C Nolan Patrick - Brandon Wheat Kings, WHL (2017 Draft)
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Nolan has terrific vision. He sees the ice well, can identify open teammates, and makes crisp passes to them.
Most of his goals are scored from the bottom half of the offensive zone. He has an accurate shot and can score from in close, but he doesn't seem to score with his hands. He either snaps the puck past the goalie off the rush, converts on an odd-man rush while racing towards the net, or buries a loose puck in the low slot in front of the net. Not a lot of goals involve the use of fancy stickwork to deke past the goaltender; he has plenty of patience with the puck to cut through the crease and out-wait the goaltender, though.
I see him as much more of a playmaker than a goal scorer at the NHL level. While he can score goals, he does not possess an elite goal-scoring skill set. He pounces on a lot of loose pucks and feeds from his teammates, and occasionally buries one past the opponent off the rush from below the faceoff dot. The Brandon Wheat Kings are a very talented team, so Nolan benefited from his teammates and vice versa. At 6'3'' 194 lbs, he isn't the fastest player, but he possesses good acceleration and lower body strength. His vision is noteworthy.
Most of his goals are scored from the bottom half of the offensive zone. He has an accurate shot and can score from in close, but he doesn't seem to score with his hands. He either snaps the puck past the goalie off the rush, converts on an odd-man rush while racing towards the net, or buries a loose puck in the low slot in front of the net. Not a lot of goals involve the use of fancy stickwork to deke past the goaltender; he has plenty of patience with the puck to cut through the crease and out-wait the goaltender, though.
I see him as much more of a playmaker than a goal scorer at the NHL level. While he can score goals, he does not possess an elite goal-scoring skill set. He pounces on a lot of loose pucks and feeds from his teammates, and occasionally buries one past the opponent off the rush from below the faceoff dot. The Brandon Wheat Kings are a very talented team, so Nolan benefited from his teammates and vice versa. At 6'3'' 194 lbs, he isn't the fastest player, but he possesses good acceleration and lower body strength. His vision is noteworthy.
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That's a pretty good comparison. I think Patrick is the better skater and shooter at this point in their careers, but without the same feel for the game and defensive awareness Sam had - what Sam was able to do in the dub with his mediocre level of athleticism was astonishing.
I like the poor man's Tavares comparison. He's pretty nifty around the net, has a quick, accurate release, and is able to find guys in the slot from the half wall to behind the net. He's not quite as sneaky as JT was at the same age, and he doesn't have those magical mittens, but he does a good job finding space in high probability rebound areas and finishing with authority.
As a projected 1OA, I'd say he's mildly below average. Here's where I rank him in terms of hype / expectations coming into his draft year vs previous forwards taken 1OA:
Crosby
McDavid
Tavares
Matthews
Ekblad
Mackinnon
Stamkos
Patrick
Hall
Yakupov
RNH
Kane
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He's got this season to really show what he's made of but atm he's probably considered around the average when it comes to #1 overall's the past decade. Probably put him around Hall in terms of quality.
Put up pretty good numbers in the regular season and playoffs plus he is a big center which are pretty coveted around the league.
He's a late birthday just like Matthews but Patrick isn't going to go over to a Swiss league or anything. Patrick is going to tear the WHL apart next season at that age.
Will be really interesting to see what he can do, Brandon is losing a lot of talent. Will be hard to keep the numbers, but he should be capable. Him vs Liljegren should be an interesting battle. While I think some of the CHL 16 year olds may be able to challenge, the fact Patrick potted 30 goals at 16, is better than what most of his challengers did.
Whenever i watch him play, he screams a Dylan Strome vibe.
Strome's a great player, just not a future superstar in the NHL.
How's his skating? Only have seen highlights, but seems that's the thing he needs to improve on most?
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It's not great yet, he's not a guy who can really drive play through the neutral zone, and he's thoroughly benefited from playing with some fantastic scorers.
I think he'll struggle to put up significantly better numbers when much of the Wheat Kings core moves on.
He's a great skater and breaks out very fast for his size. And I'd say he has no problem blowing away his past numbers next season as he is what made those guys better scorer's.
But not just that he's already the best defensive forward in the WH. I truly can't recall a player that has had the complete set of tools Patrick brings to come out of the dub in a long time, the kid just does it all
Play style wise, reminds me exactly of Toews. Great 2 way player and scores many goals in close, but can bring out the flashy hands once in a while. Above average skater although it isn't a strength, and has great vision.
Either him or Liljegren would be great for the Canucks rebuild.
In terms of pre draft hype, he's definitely on the lower end, and his ceiling is on the lower end of potential first overall picks too.
Crosby
McDavid
Tavares
Matthews
McKinnon
Yakupov
Stamkos
Ekblad
Hall
Patrick
Johnson
Nuge
Kane
Is where I see him from his pre draft hype.
Either him or Liljegren would be great for the Canucks rebuild.
In terms of pre draft hype, he's definitely on the lower end, and his ceiling is on the lower end of potential first overall picks too.
Crosby
McDavid
Tavares
Matthews
McKinnon
Yakupov
Stamkos
Ekblad
Hall
Patrick
Johnson
Nuge
Kane
Is where I see him from his pre draft hype.
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Me neither. With the demand for high end defenceman nowadays, I think Liljegren edges him by the end of the season.
Me neither. With the demand for high end defenceman nowadays, I think Liljegren edges him by the end of the season.
I feel very similar. I think Liljegren is almost guarenteed to be a top pairing dman, while he has elite potential. Nolan is guarenteed to be a 2ndifficult line center in the mold of jordan Staal, with his ceiling as a whole way 65-70pt center.
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Chychrun's hype last year was higher than Liljegren's is now. We all know how that went. Let the year play out, don't overvalue the hype.
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i see a lot of people on here saying he is a weak number 1 pick and they do not think he will be number 1....I personally think this guy is amazing, great size, amazing IQ, finds space and creates space so effortlessly out there, he has amazing passing and vision, his shot needs some improvement and skating has to get a little faster but with this guys size he will take time to get those aspects to top shape, his tool box is super deep and IMO he has A TON of ability and is a true number 1 pick. I think he goes number 1 and i think he has a great impact for what ever team picks him he is IMO a super skilled player, his IQ IMO is way better than a guy like Patrik Laine this year Patrick just makes the game look easy.
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The first 3 are pretty obvious. After that it is terrible list.
Crosby
McDavid
Tavares
Stamkos
Kane
Mackinnon
Matthews
Hall
Nolan
Ekblad
RNH
Yakupov
No, his list ranks the pre-draft hype that these players received.
His list is accurate. Patrick Kane, for example, was nowhere to be found on most lists until after the 2007 World Junior Championships. ISS had him ranked eleventh before the World Juniors. He never became the consensus first-overall choice either, as NHL Central Scouting favored Kyle Turris over him. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins was a top-four prospect all season in his draft year, and only became the top-ranked player towards the very end of the 2010-11 season.
Nail Yakupov was the consensus first-overall pick throughout his entire season, although he was challenged to some degree by Mikhail Grigorenko. Taylor Hall was the consensus pick all year until Tyler Seguin began to challenge him late in the 2009-10 season.
Nathan MacKinnon was being hyped as the first-overall pick on mainstream media outlets before the start of his draft season, with some comparing him to Sidney Crosby simply due to their shared place of origin. Hockey fans knew about him and Seth Jones well before the start of the 2012-13 season.
In terms of pre-draft hype, Patrick slots in below MacKinnon. Many casual hockey fans already knew who MacKinnon was by the time of the 2012 NHL Entry Draft, with most ranking him ahead of Nail Yakupov as prospects.
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Yes, I'm aware. It works for both Liljegren and Patrick though. As of right now, there's hardly any hype around Liljegren, he's fairly unknown around he because he plays in Sweden. I just see his skill and position launching him ahead of Patrick by the end of next year. Easily could be wrong though, of course.
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