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C Nolan Patrick - Brandon Wheat Kings, WHL (2017 Draft)

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mymerlincat said:
I'm not sure how good of a fit he would be on that team
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A 6'3 skilled center is a good fit on any team. Given that his dad and uncle were NHLers you think they would know they should have had their kid before Sept 15th(he is 4 days late)
 
DaximusPrimus said:
No contest the Jets take him at 2.
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This is just ridiculous. Laine was one of the best offensive players at the WC. Patrick is nowhere near that level. He had a good year but he's only a few days away from being drafted this year, and is only 5 months younger than Laine.

PLD had a better season and is only 3 months older. And Tkachuk has 153 points in 78gp for the Knights, while having a beastly WJC. Patrick could end up better than these two, but IMO it could go either way. But he's not close to Laine or Pulju.
 
WhiskeyYourTheDevils said:
This is just ridiculous. Laine was one of the best offensive players at the WC. Patrick is nowhere near that level. He had a good year but he's only a few days away from being drafted this year, and is only 5 months younger than Laine.

PLD had a better season and is only 3 months older. And Tkachuk has 153 points in 78gp for the Knights, while having a beastly WJC. Patrick could end up better than these two, but IMO it could go either way. But he's not close to Laine or Pulju.
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How did PLD have a better season? Patrick played center all year (PLD constantly moved around), scored at a similar rate in a tougher league to score in, and had a better playoffs (was named WHL playoffs MVP and won the championship). He lacks the position questions, and also had a significantly better 16 year old season. I'd say Dubois only big advantage was in primary PPG production. I'm pretty confident Columbus would take Patrick over Puljujarvi. Teams probably lean Laine over Patrick, but its closer than most think at the moment. 6'3 center with good skating and solid all-around games are very hard to find, and will go over a projectible winger like Puljujarvi. Laine has a definable elite trait which makes that one slightly more questionable.
 
WhiskeyYourTheDevils said:
This is just ridiculous. Laine was one of the best offensive players at the WC. Patrick is nowhere near that level. He had a good year but he's only a few days away from being drafted this year, and is only 5 months younger than Laine.

PLD had a better season and is only 3 months older. And Tkachuk has 153 points in 78gp for the Knights, while having a beastly WJC. Patrick could end up better than these two, but IMO it could go either way. But he's not close to Laine or Pulju.
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Laine and Pulju have a lot more opportunity playing for Finland than Patrick has playing for Canada at international tournaments. PLD did not have a better season than Patrick. The Jets take him at 2. A majority of Jets fans would likely agree. We need an elite center more than we need an elite winger. We take Patrick weather you like it or not.
 
WhiskeyYourTheDevils said:
This is just ridiculous. Laine was one of the best offensive players at the WC. Patrick is nowhere near that level. He had a good year but he's only a few days away from being drafted this year, and is only 5 months younger than Laine.

PLD had a better season and is only 3 months older. And Tkachuk has 153 points in 78gp for the Knights, while having a beastly WJC. Patrick could end up better than these two, but IMO it could go either way. But he's not close to Laine or Pulju.
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he could have 200 points, people don't care... hes a 3rd wheel on a great line, doesn't drive anything. You draft him on his ability to be good with great players. is that worth a top 5 pick? hell no
 
Pardon my ignorance, but is this kid basically a virtual lock to go #1 in 2017?

I just saw someone who said that on the first page of this thread, then I noticed that the post was from like January of 2014 haha. That is bananas.
 
LarrysMustache said:
he could have 200 points, people don't care... hes a 3rd wheel on a great line, doesn't drive anything. You draft him on his ability to be good with great players. is that worth a top 5 pick? hell no
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Is proving to be good with great players a bad thing? I'm sure some teams wish their stars could play well with others.

If I'm Edmonton I don't need someone to come in and drive a line. I need a guy like Tkachuk, who has proven to be able to produce with elite players, from Marner and Dvorak to Matthews.
 
Everblades13 said:
Pardon my ignorance, but is this kid basically a virtual lock to go #1 in 2017?

I just saw someone who said that on the first page of this thread, then I noticed that the post was from like January of 2014 haha. That is bananas.
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I feel very confident saying either Patrick or Liljegren will go 1st OA in 2017
 
93LEAFS said:
How did PLD have a better season? Patrick played center all year (PLD constantly moved around), scored at a similar rate in a tougher league to score in, and had a better playoffs (was named WHL playoffs MVP and won the championship). He lacks the position questions, and also had a significantly better 16 year old season. I'd say Dubois only big advantage was in primary PPG production. I'm pretty confident Columbus would take Patrick over Puljujarvi. Teams probably lean Laine over Patrick, but its closer than most think at the moment. 6'3 center with good skating and solid all-around games are very hard to find, and will go over a projectible winger like Puljujarvi. Laine has a definable elite trait which makes that one slightly more questionable.
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I'm probably nitpicking but ... seing those WHL team at the Mem Cup, there's more than just good defense/system, the lack of guy who can score is also a reason it's though to score there imho.
 
Everblades13 said:
Pardon my ignorance, but is this kid basically a virtual lock to go #1 in 2017?

I just saw someone who said that on the first page of this thread, then I noticed that the post was from like January of 2014 haha. That is bananas.
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Timothy Liljegren could certainly give him a run for his money. I'd say right now it's 50/50 between Patrick and Liljegren.
 
WhiskeyYourTheDevils said:
Maybe #4. But could have fallen as far as 6 IMO. Tkachuk and Dubious have had monster seasons.
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Patrick would go 1st this year in my opinion. He projects closer to McDavid than the other players you mention. He's almost a year younger than Matthews and has far less experience.

I've read all the articles about 2017 being a weak draft etc.....and its just pure drivel. It'll be an awesome draft.
 
Kid is incredible.

If the leafs are lucky enough to draft him, HF leaf haters can tell us all about how we have Nylander (gagner), Marner (gagner), Matthews (potentially gagner), and Patrick (now seen as gagner since he's a leaf). Happy and predictable times.
 
Channelcat said:
Patrick would go 1st this year in my opinion. He projects closer to McDavid than the other players you mention. He's almost a year younger than Matthews and has far less experience.

I've read all the articles about 2017 being a weak draft etc.....and its just pure drivel. It'll be an awesome draft.
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This is absolute nonsense. Make a poll. Nobody in their right mind would take Patrick over Matthews.
 
Caitlyn Jenner said:
Kid is incredible.

If the leafs are lucky enough to draft him, HF leaf haters can tell us all about how we have Nylander (gagner), Marner (gagner), Matthews (potentially gagner), and Patrick (now seen as gagner since he's a leaf). Happy and predictable times.
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Who compared Matthews to Gagner? Or is that just Leaf fan paranoia?
 
Channelcat said:
Patrick would go 1st this year in my opinion. He projects closer to McDavid than the other players you mention. He's almost a year younger than Matthews and has far less experience.

I've read all the articles about 2017 being a weak draft etc.....and its just pure drivel. It'll be an awesome draft.
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I'm guessing you missed the records Matthews broke last year when he was in Patrick's position. Go look at Matthews numbers last year, I don't know how you think Patrick had a better season than that. Matthews went to go play on a different continent, on a larger ice surface simply because there was nothing left to prove in North America. Patrick's season isn't close to Matthews last year, no matter how you look at it.

Here's a fun place to look
 
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Brandon was pretty terrible in general. From top to bottom. They had enough issues with Red Deer nevermind everyone else. Kinda weird how a team can be so dominant and then completely fizzle out.
 
Channelcat said:
Patrick would go 1st this year in my opinion. He projects closer to McDavid than the other players you mention. He's almost a year younger than Matthews and has far less experience.

I've read all the articles about 2017 being a weak draft etc.....and its just pure drivel. It'll be an awesome draft.
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As in you would take him first? Or do you truly believe the Leafs would take him over Matthews? Because that is just nonsense.

All for someone having an opinion, but c'mon there's no way he would go 1st if he were eligible regardless of the year difference.
 
Nolan Patrick had an alright playoffs, too bad Brandon didn't make it.

Todd Tinkerlink, that kid might surprise. Could be a star in the league when drafted perhaps next year. But hoping Leafs will get a chance at Liljegren over Patrick.
 
Channelcat said:
Patrick would go 1st this year in my opinion. He projects closer to McDavid than the other players you mention. He's almost a year younger than Matthews and has far less experience.

I've read all the articles about 2017 being a weak draft etc.....and its just pure drivel. It'll be an awesome draft.
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Not a chance he goes No.1.
 
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