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C Nolan Patrick - Brandon Wheat Kings, WHL (2017 Draft)

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LordNeverLose said:
Horton was a W who didn't have nearly the production of Patrick.

I'm really high on the kid. I'd take him over Matthews and probably Eichel as well.
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I don't think he's in the same tier. If he was born a week earlier he'd be in the 2016 draft and only a few months younger than dubois. I'd say if he was in the 2016 draft he'd fight for the 4 spot with dubois and tkachuk but being a natural center may push him over puljujarvi.

Matthews and eichel are special talents so it's no insult to Patrick that I don't think he's the same level as them.
 
Captain Serious said:
I don't think he's in the same tier. If he was born a week earlier he'd be in the 2016 draft and only a few months younger than dubois. I'd say if he was in the 2016 draft he'd fight for the 4 spot with dubois and tkachuk but being a natural center may push him over puljujarvi.

Matthews and eichel are special talents so it's no insult to Patrick that I don't think he's the same level as them.
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If Matthews was a week younger he'd be in the 2015 draft and probably 3rd or 4th overall. If Patrick's game continues developing at same pace (scores say 130+pts next season) he definitely needs to be in the elite No.1 overall category like Tavares, Stamkos, Kane. Both Patrick and Matthews are the "old farts" of their draft so they better be outperforming their peers.
 
Like what I have seen at the Mem cup. Limited viewings. Would he go 1st round this year? .. Likely would have a shot.
 
Captain Serious said:
I don't think he's in the same tier. If he was born a week earlier he'd be in the 2016 draft and only a few months younger than dubois.
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That would make him a full year younger than Matthews. I bet Patrick puts up some stellar numbers in his draft year and makes the comparison a lot closer.
 
voxel said:
If Matthews was a week younger he'd be in the 2015 draft and probably 3rd or 4th overall. If Patrick's game continues developing at same pace (scores say 130+pts next season) he definitely needs to be in the elite No.1 overall category like Tavares, Stamkos, Kane. Both Patrick and Matthews are the "old farts" of their draft so they better be outperforming their peers.
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Who goes 3rd in this scenario?
 
So far, I don't think Patrick has the hands in tight of Matthews or the raw physical ability of Eichel to be in the same class as those two.

However, he does have a great size/speed/shot combination and figures to project as a 1st line C in the NHL.
 
Unbiased said:
Who goes 3rd in this scenario?
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Everybody was gaga over Dylan Strome last season. Matthews last year didn't have the eye-popping numbers but I would have picked him 3rd. I didn't care for Strome, Marner, etc. at all. IMO at the time was the 2015 was a bit overrated and still is.
 
voxel said:
Everybody was gaga over Dylan Strome last season. Matthews last year didn't have the eye-popping numbers but I would have picked him 3rd. I didn't care for Strome, Marner, etc. at all. IMO at the time was the 2015 was a bit overrated and still is.
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McDavid was the sure bet at #1

but it was a toss up if it was Matthews and Eichel. Matthews has outproduced him at every level and likely has a better 2-way game. Sure some may go for Eichel still but I'd say it's 50/50 at best as to who would go #2 in that draft.

Both Eichel and Matthews are above Patrick though imo.
 
WTFMAN99 said:
McDavid was the sure bet at #1

but it was a toss up if it was Matthews and Eichel. Matthews has outproduced him at every level and likely has a better 2-way game. Sure some may go for Eichel still but I'd say it's 50/50 at best as to who would go #2 in that draft.

Both Eichel and Matthews are above Patrick though imo.
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No way. If Matthews was eligible for the 2015 (a week younger) then Eichel would still be picked over him. Eichel destroyed the NCAA against much older players. Matthews last year wasn't even playing against men. We're not comparing THIS years Matthews to last year's Eichel - because we are focusing on the 2015 draft.
 
voxel said:
Everybody was gaga over Dylan Strome last season. Matthews last year didn't have the eye-popping numbers but I would have picked him 3rd. I didn't care for Strome, Marner, etc. at all. IMO at the time was the 2015 was a bit overrated and still is.
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What? Matthews broke Patrick Kane's single season NTDP points record by 15 last year, and did so playing a much tougher schedule than Kane did. Matthews over Strome would have been obvious.
 
voxel said:
No way. If Matthews was eligible for the 2015 (a week younger) then Eichel would still be picked over him. Eichel destroyed the NCAA against much older players. Matthews last year wasn't even playing against men. We're not comparing THIS years Matthews to last year's Eichel - because we are focusing on the 2015 draft.
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Matthews was viewed as the best prospect to have left the USNDP, he absolutely would of challenged Eichel, Eichel probably goes ahead on most boards though. But considering the situations, many would take into account what they did at the USNDP.

As for Patrick, not the greatest Memorial cups, will be interesting to see what he can do next year if his team also loses Provorov. They already have some pretty major losses to their top 6.
 
If Patrick was in this draft, he'd probably be in the 3-4 range with Puljujarvi. Wouldn't be above Laine and Matthews.
 
MS said:
If Patrick was in this draft, he'd probably be in the 3-4 range with Puljujarvi. Wouldn't be above Laine and Matthews.
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There would be strong claims for Winnipeg to draft him. He'd be in the discussion with Laine.
 
I wanna see Patrick pick his play up here in memorial cup. I know what he's capable of and am a huge fan but I was hoping he would excel at this tourny on the big stage so the rest of Canada could hop on board to see just how good he is
 
voxel said:
If Matthews was a week younger he'd be in the 2015 draft and probably 3rd or 4th overall. If Patrick's game continues developing at same pace (scores say 130+pts next season) he definitely needs to be in the elite No.1 overall category like Tavares, Stamkos, Kane. Both Patrick and Matthews are the "old farts" of their draft so they better be outperforming their peers.
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:laugh:

No GM would have taken Strome over Matthews at 3. Strome wasn't even #3 on most pre-draft lists.
 
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RG3hockey said:
Vancouver may have the best chance to draft Nolan Patrick in 2017 unless they make some serious upgrades
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20%, although Patrick could be challenged by Liljegren and high quality RHD are as rare as big #1 it seems considering the demand for him. If Leafs, Oilers, and a couple others end up with #1 I could easily see him being the pick. I think its way too early to call out favorites to finish last. But I wouldn't say the Canucks, Benning (or mainly in my belief Aquellini) doesn't seem in favour of a rebuild and Sedins are good enough to keep you out of last barring a collapse.
 
mymerlincat said:
Who do you think needs Nolan the most? Leafs have Matthews, Oilers have McDavid, Sabres have Eichel.
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Out of that list it would be the Leafs as the Oilers have McDavid-Draisaitl-RNH and the Sabres have Eichel-ROR-Reinhart. Matthews-Patrick-Kadri wouldn't be too bad going forward...

Call me optimistic, but I would be kind of surprised if any of those teams (especially Buffalo and Edmonton) finish last next year.
 
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